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could you make a version of edge for debian and also manjaro could it be compiled as tar file and is
HotCakeX "Everyone is able to test, just grab a Linux distro and install it on a VM."
It isn't that simple. According to Microsoft's messaging about the pending release, quoted above, Edge installation will be supported at this time only for a small number of major commercial distros (Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora, and OpenSUSE) and other distros that support either deb (Debian/Ubuntu) or rpm (RedHat) package managers. Quite a few distros do, others (e.g. Arch-based distros, Solus, Clear Linux and so on) don't.
I guess if anyone wants to install a distro in a VM just to test Edge (I don't see the point of doing that, myself), I'd suggest Ubuntu, which is directly supported for Edge testing, doesn't require much if any configuration to use otherwise, and is backed up by extensive, accessible support forums.
- HotCakeXSep 24, 2020MVPI didn't talk about simplicity. those distros are popular and VM hypervisors built in and also free from 3rd party. so again, Everyone is able to test, just grab a Linux distro and install it on a VM.
no need for a certain community to do the testing.- tomscharbachSep 24, 2020Bronze Contributor
HotCakeX "I didn't talk about simplicity. those distros are popular and VM hypervisors built in and also free from 3rd party. so again, Everyone is able to test, just grab a Linux distro and install it on a VM. [N]o need for a certain community to do the testing."
It is certainly the case that anyone can toss up a VM with a supported Linux distro installed and test Edge on that distro. Testers who elect that route need to be aware that a number of popular distros (e.g. Manjaro, Solus and so on) are neither directly supported nor directly compatible with deb or rpm, and should avoid trying to test on those distros.
But what is the point of encouraging people who don't use Linux to test Edge in a VM using a distro with which they aren't familiar and (probably) know little about? It seems to me that little will be learned except what Microsoft must (should, anyway) already know -- Edge can be installed on this-or-that distro, functions acceptably in a general sense, and is missing this-or-that feature/function. The point of having Edge tested by Linux users (rather than casual VM testing by non-users) is to move beyond superficial testing into actual use cases in actual, real-world Linux installations.
It looks like Microsoft is working with Canonical, RedHat, SUSE Software Solutions and others to test Edge within the commercial segment of the Linux market, which seems to be Microsoft's target for Edge and Linux support in general (e.g. WSL2, which works off a Microsoft-developed version of the Linux kernel, and a limited array of WSL2-supported distros -- Debian, Kali, Ubuntu, SUSE). Microsoft support for Linux seems to be clearly focused on Enterprise customers and developers rather than end users. Whether or not that is the case, Edge is probably getting sufficient testing from within the commercial Linux community to obviate the need for casual testing by Linux non-users.
Looking beyond speculation/theory and into the real world for a moment, the answer to paulstechtips questions seem to be, at this point, (1) Microsoft will be directly supporting Debian in October, (2) Microsoft will not be supporting Manjaro (an Arch-based distro using pamac) at that time, and (3) Edge, like Chrome, is built on open source Chromium Project code but is not itself open source.
I think that I've said about all I have to say on the subject. I hope that you will enjoy your testing.
- HotCakeXSep 24, 2020MVPSpoiler
tomscharbach wrote:HotCakeX "I didn't talk about simplicity. those distros are popular and VM hypervisors built in and also free from 3rd party. so again, Everyone is able to test, just grab a Linux distro and install it on a VM. [N]o need for a certain community to do the testing."
It is certainly the case that anyone can toss up a VM with a supported Linux distro installed and test Edge on that distro. Testers who elect that route need to be aware that a number of popular distros (e.g. Manjaro, Solus and so on) are neither directly supported nor directly compatible with deb or rpm, and should avoid trying to test on those distros.
But what is the point of encouraging people who don't use Linux to test Edge in a VM using a distro with which they aren't familiar and (probably) know little about? It seems to me that little will be learned except what Microsoft must (should, anyway) already know -- Edge can be installed on this-or-that distro, functions acceptably in a general sense, and is missing this-or-that feature/function. The point of having Edge tested by Linux users (rather than casual VM testing by non-users) is to move beyond superficial testing into actual use cases in actual, real-world Linux installations.
It looks like Microsoft is working with Canonical, RedHat, SUSE Software Solutions and others to test Edge within the commercial segment of the Linux market, which seems to be Microsoft's target for Edge and Linux support in general (e.g. WSL2, which works off a Microsoft-developed version of the Linux kernel, and a limited array of WSL2-supported distros -- Debian, Kali, Ubuntu, SUSE). Microsoft support for Linux seems to be clearly focused on Enterprise customers and developers rather than end users. Whether or not that is the case, Edge is probably getting sufficient testing from within the commercial Linux community to obviate the need for casual testing by Linux non-users.
Looking beyond speculation/theory and into the real world for a moment, the answer to paulstechtips questions seem to be, at this point, (1) Microsoft will be directly supporting Debian in October, (2) Microsoft will not be supporting Manjaro (an Arch-based distro using pamac) at that time, and (3) Edge, like Chrome, is built on open source Chromium Project code but is not itself open source.
I think that I've said about all I have to say on the subject. I hope that you will enjoy your testing.
you mention a lot of off-topic stuff that have nothing to do with this thread.
OP is simply asking for Edge release.
Anyone can test Edge on Linux, on VM or actual computer, find problems when they use Edge normally, just like they use it on Windows or Mac, and report findings through feedback button.
no need for specific community or experts to do this. it's already being done by ordinary people on Windows and Mac. Linux is no different. no need to write a letter for something simple as that.