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Browser and GPU process are much higher compared to Brave
- May 22, 2019
Edge Insiders,
My name is Tim Scudder and I’m a member of the Edge performance team. I wanted to provide an update on this issue: we were able to repro the problem locally, we have a fix coded, validated and are now working to get this change into our next dev drop (estimated to be 76.0.166.0).
We apologize for the inconvenience, but truly appreciate everyone’s help in isolating the problem.
NOTE: We are also aware of a VSync timer tick issue that also has CPU/battery impact that originated upstream in Chromium's codebase. This issue has been fixed upstream and we are also working to make sure the fix is in our next dev drop (again, estimated to be 76.0.166.0)
Regards,
Tim Scudder
sambul95 "My main concern is, Edge Preview devs have an approved roadmap, which directs them to concentrate on full set feature transfer, and moving from Chrome to MS services. Which means, performance optimization issues may be very last ones on their mind right now."
Your comment suggests that you have access to the Edge team's official roadmap in some form. I understand that you may have to keep the details close to your chest, but could you comment about whether or not removing the Edge Chromium's ability to run with administrator privileges is on the roadmap?
I don't run Chrome on my computers, in part, because I have five or six concerns about Chrome's security. The ability to run with administrator privileges is high on that list of security deficiencies, because it isn't all that hard to bypass/escape a sandbox.
"run with admin privileges"
You can start a new topic about Edge Chromium Roadmap, sure many folks will contribute. This topic is dedicated to a very important bug. Edge Chromium Program Manager was working for Google Chrome Security team just months ago, so you can address your concerns to the right guy if they are justified. :)
"We've had a dozen threads requesting that Microsoft do what it can to reduce resource use in Edge Chromium by bundling processes"
You might be interested to read this thread: https://superuser.com/questions/461552/why-are-there-multiple-chrome-instances-running-even-though-i-only-have-one-wind Its improving https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/desktop/ProcThread/about-processes-and-threads, https://www.chromium.org/Home/chromium-security/site-isolation, and https://blog.chromium.org/2008/09/multi-process-architecture.html. While I agree OS developer company is better positioned to cut on browser resource usage, if its various teams interact properly. For that to happen, a top level MS exec must be keenly interested in Edge success, given current minuscule market share and revenue from it. Now it looks more like a prestige project, though they put 200 heads on it. Keep pushing on the right buttons. :) Or https://www.ghacks.net/2015/02/08/save-memory-in-chrome-by-using-one-process-per-site/ on your own.
- tomscharbachMay 20, 2019Bronze Contributor
tomscharbach: "We've had a dozen threads requesting that Microsoft do what it can to reduce resource use in Edge Chromium by bundling processes ..."
sambul95: "You might be interested to read this thread: Why are there multiple Chrome instances running even though I only have one window open? Its improving stability, security, and responsiveness."
I initially posted about Chromium's resource-hogging proclivities because I misunderstood the nature of Marco's initial post, which was about excessive CPU usage at rest. If I had understood his initial post, I would have gone right to testing, in order to identify, isolate and document the bug we've reported in this thread.
I'm well aware of the reasons that Chromium uses multiple processes instead of bundling, and if you read the numerous earlier threads in which the topic is mentioned, comments will point you back to 2008 technical documents in which the pros and cons were hotly debated in the early days of Chromium development for the Linux platform.
It seems to me that is a topic you should take to another thread, if you want to do so.
I agree with your observation (stated in your post above this latest edit): "This topic is dedicated to a very important bug." I agree with that, and with your advice to in a more recent thread to "stay focused". Let's not get sidetracked.