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blocking ads without third-party extensions.
Hello. I'd like to see a built-in ad blocker like in opera. I think this feature will be useful and you don't need to install third-party blockers. also, in the case of your own blocker in edge, the problem of banning blockers will be solved.
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- cjc2112Bronze Contributor
nikitat1260 Yes, one of the big reasons people switch to chrome is to get rid of the "try Google Chrome" Google ads. If they blocked ads, this problem would be solved.
- FrankDeNunzioBrass Contributor
Your suggestion is a good one. My YouTube friends swear by Opera citing this reason among others. I believe Edge can ramp up features like you suggest, like giving more granular control directly from the address bar fly-out to block scripts, etc. Brave browser has incorporated some of these fairly well in some of its versions, but
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uBlock Origin and uBlock are two different adblockers.
I was using AdBlock Plus in the last 5 years or more.
This week I changed to uBlock Origin and I will never use AdBlock Plus again because uBlock Origin is much better in many aspects. (thanks HotCakeX for your suggestion).
But I think it will be wonderful if Edge Chromium had an internal adblocker so strong as uBlock Origin and optimized to not impact to much the memory use.
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* uBlock Origin and uBlock are two different adblockers. *
I was using AdBlock Plus in the last 5 years or more.
This week I changed to uBlock Origin and I will never use AdBlock Plus again because uBlock Origin is much better in many aspects. (thanks HotCakeX for your suggestion).
But I think it will be wonderful if Edge Chromium had an internal adblocker so strong as uBlock Origin and optimized to not impact to much the memory use.
- AnthonySteel ContributorMy issue with Adblocker Plus (ABP) is that it will allow ads to filter through if they are deemed “friendly”. What is determined to be “friendly” is pretty much what was said a few posts up by sales. I’m on Adblocker now, been on it for about two weeks. It’s fine, it does what it’s suppose too, but once I get Ublock working properly again I’ll go back to that as that was my main/original ad blocker extension.
https://www.theverge.com/2016/9/13/12890050/adblock-plus-now-sells-ads - FrankDeNunzioBrass Contributor
Edge Dev has Tracking Protection built-in. Edge Beta has a flag which can be enabled via the experimental flags interface. It offers 3 levels of protection: Basic, Balanced and Strict. I've found Strict works well without breaking any sites yet. It offers the ability to make exceptions for websites you wish to support via a fly-out which takes you to the relevant settings UI, but not directly from the main UI flyout.
Be aware that Tracking Protection will not block in-video ads on YouTube. These are getting harder to block now that many more are in-stream ads from the same content provider. If all you want is adblocking the built-in protection is very good.
If you want to increase your privacy in addition to what the Strict setting provides I highly recommend the Privacy Possum extension, which will block many more forms of tracking not blocked by Edge. Privacy Possum actually takes on a heavy load with Edge built-in, e.g. compared to using PP with µBlock Origin. Otherwise, Edge built-in Tracking Protection is another jewel in the crown of the new Edge!
- adrshCopper Contributor
Hello. It seems Privacy Possum is down in the chrome extension page... Do you know any other nice alternatives? I'm looking forward to the SugarCoat by Brave, but it's still under development...
- nikitat1260Steel Contributor
FrankDeNunzio I understand what you're talking about, but opera is successfully coping with blocking ads on yutube. I think it's important to block this type of ad. and I'd like to see that in the edge.
Tracking protection built-in has nothing to do with ad blocking though.
you can see the description in the settings. it only blocks trackers, not a single add.
less relevant ads yes but still no ad blocking.
strict setting is the worst option. it neither blocks ads nor lets user use website normally without breaking it.
the community made filters here take of everything and they don't break anything if used in the right extension: https://filterlists.com/
(advertisements, trackers, malware, and annoyances.)- FrankDeNunzioBrass Contributor
Your reply sounds like you haven't used it. My experience is the exact opposite of yours, regardless of what the description says. I happen to prefer µBO in medium mode and I'm quite familiar with community filter lists, but my reply was in response to the OP.
- AnthonySteel Contributor
Yeah I originally had Ublock but the extension kept self-turning off and breaking (requiring repairing or reinstalling) on both my Edge Canary and when trying it on original Chromium browser. Tails uses Ublock now as their official but unofficial ad blocker for their Tails OS. I got tired of trying to fix and solution it so I switched to ABP (Adblock Plus) and haven't had any problems since. It works the same as Ublock...nothing special or unique about ABP that those using Ublock without problems should switch.
I don't mind supporting ads of local entrepreneurs (like ma and pa online stores) trying to use ad revenue to help their business which I’ll whitelist. But some of these big cooperation websites are ridiculous with the amount of adware with most of the ads holding no interest to me so a decent adblocker is needed.
- Google, Microsoft, and Amazon are paying Adblock Plus huge fees to get their ads unblocked
https://www.businessinsider.com/google-microsoft-amazon-taboola-pay-adblock-plus-to-stop-blocking-their-ads-2015-2
Adblock Plus reveals how it’s charging companies to let ads through your ad blocker
https://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/12/16/adblock-plus-reveals-how-its-charging-companies-to-let-ads-through-your-ad-blocker/- AnthonySteel Contributor
Yeah, that's the reason Tails OS dropped ABP and in it's place put in Ublock ealier this year. Although I haven't had any ads come through with Youtube, Amazon, Walmart, Yahoo on ABP so it seems to work fine thus far for me. I can't say for Google as I don't use Google search enough to deterimine ABP's affectiness (except to say no ads come through on Youtube). I'll use DuckDuckGo and after that Yahoo or Bing. I'll try Ublock again in about two weeks to see how it's responding. I've been using ABP for about two weeks now after the Ublock (Raymond Hill version) issues started.
- quick comparison between ublock origins and adblock plus.
https://www.webxen.com/kb/ublock-origin-vs-adblock-plus/
https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/8m9vu9/ublock_origin_vs_adblock_plus/
the main advantages of ublock origin: more effective, less CPU/RAM usage.
it takes one click to disable ublock origin on a website to see its ads, i don't see it as a feature that ABP is advertising for.
and of course we shouldn't forget the community based filters that ublock origin uses which makes it literally the best because of help of people. adblock plus takes money from 3rd parties in order to let their website domain be added to their white list. common dirty business practices.. nothing special
- AnthonySteel Contributor
I've tried the Android version of Opera and it wasn't bad. It had it's own VPN (server) and there's also "Opera Mini" for android which is a mini browser that's bare bones (lightweight) like Firefox Focus (Android) is. However since I use Edge for Android and Samsung Browser secondary I didn't keep Opera. Only so many browsers I need especially on Android. I haven't tried on Windows in years since they went Chromium engine.
Only thing about adding a browsers own ad blocker is...you get their ad blocker whether their own version or they partner with a third party. With extensions you can pick your ad blocker whether it's Ublock or ABP or something else. I had Ublock and found it stopped working for me on various of websites so I switched to Adblock Plus and it works fine. I don't always use it too as some websites break especially news sites telling you to turn it off. So I mostly defaulted ABP to off expect for a few websites I know that are ad filled upon launching. If websites start locking said ad blocker you can try delete and another one instead of being tied into the single one built into the web browser.
That's the only down side to a built in ad blocker. I guess it would have to have default options settable to on and off options or to be able to delete, and still allow users to use their own third party ad blocker if they choose. VPN would be a pretty cool concept especially tied in or secondary option tied into InPrivate. I liked the VPN options on Opera Android.
- That's right,
but the thing is it's already there in Edge: edge://settings/content/ads
Microsoft put something there and says it blocks ads (god knows what kind of ads they refer to lol) so all im asking is to improve on that and make it work 🙂 - nikitat1260Steel Contributor
Anthony I agree the user should choose to use a built-in blocker and a third-party blocker.
- Dennis5mileSilver Contributor
nikitat1260 wrote:Hello. I'd like to see a built-in ad blocker like in opera. I think this feature will be useful and you don't need to install third-party blockers. also, in the case of your own blocker in edge, the problem of banning blockers will be solved.
Actually there is a built in ads blocker in the last 2 versions of Canary.. Version 78.0.262.0 (Official build) canary (64-bit)..
How well it works I don't know as I've not tested it out yet...
Also note that in this next picture there are no options to "add" sites to the blocked list nore to the "allowed" list...
At least I've got it in my version.. could be one of those, chosen few...
Dennis5mile
- DannyJKendallCopper Contributor
Dennis5mile
I believe this is not any special Microsoft development and just the 'adblock' that is built into chrome by google. I use quotation marks since it is an advertising (Google) friendly service that aims to only optimise advertising by ensure ads fit certain guidelines and doesn't tend to block anything.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/07/09/chrome_ad_blocker/ - Yeah it's obvious since it's in the settings page...
but that's not what we meant. it has no difference whether it's on or off. think of it as a placebo.
Opera's ad-blocker is similar to what ublock is, a real adblocker that works. and in today's internet, it's a must-have, so better be integrated into the browser itself.- Dennis5mileSilver Contributorhhmm, how does ublock compare to AdGuard and/or Adblocker Ultimate? I use AdGuard on Edge classic, but can not seem to get them to add it here and I do not install anything from the huge security/dataminning chromeanything stores..... But I see ublock available in the store for Edge Can/Dev....
Dennis5mile
- nikitat1260Steel Contributor
Dennis5mile I checked. this blocker does not block a large number of ads. including yutube
- cjc2112Bronze Contributor
nikitat1260 Youtube ads serve a purpose, though. Unless your watching a video posted by a corporation, many youtubers rely on the ads you watch.
- Hi,
since i haven't used Opera recently i wanna ask if its built-in adblocker is effective enough, like does it block all the ads on the websites? also does it block YouTube ads that appear on videos?- nikitat1260Steel Contributor
HotCakeX Hello. I enjoyed opera 2 months ago for the last time. the video advertising was blocked including on yutube
- That's really nice. would be great to see similar function in the new Edge browser.
maybe also a built-in VPN.