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nikitat1260
Steel Contributor
Aug 31, 2019

blocking ads without third-party extensions.

Hello. I'd like to see a built-in ad blocker like in opera. I think this feature will be useful and you don't need to install third-party blockers. also, in the case of your own blocker in edge, the problem of banning blockers will be solved.

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  • cjc2112's avatar
    cjc2112
    Bronze Contributor

    nikitat1260 Yes, one of the big reasons people switch to chrome is to get rid of the "try Google Chrome" Google ads. If they blocked ads, this problem would be solved.

  • FrankDeNunzio's avatar
    FrankDeNunzio
    Brass Contributor

    nikitat1260 

     

    Your suggestion is a good one. My YouTube friends swear by Opera citing this reason among others. I believe Edge can ramp up features like you suggest, like giving more granular control directly from the address bar fly-out to block scripts, etc. Brave browser has incorporated some of these fairly well in some of its versions, but 

  • uBlock Origin and uBlock are two different adblockers.

    I was using AdBlock Plus in the last 5 years or more. 

    This week I changed to uBlock Origin and I will never use AdBlock Plus again because uBlock Origin is much better in many aspects. (thanks HotCakeX for your suggestion). 

    But I think it will be wonderful if Edge Chromium had an internal adblocker so strong as uBlock Origin and optimized to not impact to much the memory use. 

  • * uBlock Origin and uBlock are two different adblockers. *

    I was using AdBlock Plus in the last 5 years or more. 

    This week I changed to uBlock Origin and I will never use AdBlock Plus again because uBlock Origin is much better in many aspects. (thanks HotCakeX for your suggestion). 

    But I think it will be wonderful if Edge Chromium had an internal adblocker so strong as uBlock Origin and optimized to not impact to much the memory use. 

  • Anthony's avatar
    Anthony
    Steel Contributor
    My issue with Adblocker Plus (ABP) is that it will allow ads to filter through if they are deemed “friendly”. What is determined to be “friendly” is pretty much what was said a few posts up by sales. I’m on Adblocker now, been on it for about two weeks. It’s fine, it does what it’s suppose too, but once I get Ublock working properly again I’ll go back to that as that was my main/original ad blocker extension.

    https://www.theverge.com/2016/9/13/12890050/adblock-plus-now-sells-ads
  • FrankDeNunzio's avatar
    FrankDeNunzio
    Brass Contributor

    nikitat1260 

     

    Edge Dev has Tracking Protection built-in. Edge Beta has a flag which can be enabled via the experimental flags interface. It offers 3 levels of protection: Basic, Balanced and Strict. I've found Strict works well without breaking any sites yet. It offers the ability to make exceptions for websites you wish to support via a fly-out which takes you to the relevant settings UI, but not directly from the main UI flyout.

     

    Be aware that Tracking Protection will not block in-video ads on YouTube. These are getting harder to block now that many more are in-stream ads from the same content provider. If all you want is adblocking the built-in protection is very good. 

     

    If you want to increase your privacy in addition to what the Strict setting provides I highly recommend the Privacy Possum extension, which will block many more forms of tracking not blocked by Edge. Privacy Possum actually takes on a heavy load with Edge built-in, e.g. compared to using PP with µBlock Origin. Otherwise, Edge built-in Tracking Protection is another jewel in the crown of the new Edge!

    • adrsh's avatar
      adrsh
      Copper Contributor

      Hello. It seems Privacy Possum is down in the chrome extension page... Do you know any other nice alternatives? I'm looking forward to the SugarCoat by Brave, but it's still under development...

      FrankDeNunzio 

    • nikitat1260's avatar
      nikitat1260
      Steel Contributor

      FrankDeNunzio I understand what you're talking about, but opera is successfully coping with blocking ads on yutube. I think it's important to block this type of ad. and I'd like to see that in the edge.

    • HotCakeX's avatar
      HotCakeX
      MVP

      Tracking protection built-in has nothing to do with ad blocking though.
      you can see the description in the settings. it only blocks trackers, not a single add.
      less relevant ads yes but still no ad blocking.
      strict setting is the worst option. it neither blocks ads nor lets user use website normally without breaking it.

      the community made filters here take of everything and they don't break anything if used in the right extension: https://filterlists.com/
      (advertisements, trackers, malware, and annoyances.)

      • FrankDeNunzio's avatar
        FrankDeNunzio
        Brass Contributor

        HotCakeX 

         

        Your reply sounds like you haven't used it. My experience is the exact opposite of yours, regardless of what the description says. I happen to prefer µBO in medium mode and I'm quite familiar with community filter lists, but my reply was in response to the OP.

  • Anthony's avatar
    Anthony
    Steel Contributor

    Yeah I originally had Ublock but the extension kept self-turning off and breaking (requiring repairing or reinstalling) on both my Edge Canary and when trying it on original Chromium browser. Tails uses Ublock now as their official but unofficial ad blocker for their Tails OS. I got tired of trying to fix and solution it so I switched to ABP (Adblock Plus) and haven't had any problems since. It works the same as Ublock...nothing special or unique about ABP that those using Ublock without problems should switch.

     

    I don't mind supporting ads of local entrepreneurs (like ma and pa online stores) trying to use ad revenue to help their business which I’ll whitelist.  But some of these big cooperation websites are ridiculous with the amount of adware with most of the ads holding no interest to me so a decent adblocker is needed.

     

     https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/adblock-plus-free-ad-bloc/cfhdojbkjhnklbpkdaibdccddilifddb?utm_source=chrome-ntp-icon

  • Anthony's avatar
    Anthony
    Steel Contributor

    I've tried the Android version of Opera and it wasn't bad. It had it's own VPN (server) and there's also "Opera Mini" for android which is a mini browser that's bare bones (lightweight) like Firefox Focus (Android) is. However since I use Edge for Android and Samsung Browser secondary I didn't keep Opera. Only so many browsers I need especially on Android.  I haven't tried on Windows in years since they went Chromium engine. 

     

    Only thing about adding a browsers own ad blocker is...you get their ad blocker whether their own version or they partner with a third party. With extensions you can pick your ad blocker whether it's Ublock or ABP or something else.  I had Ublock and found it stopped working for me on various of websites so I switched to Adblock Plus and it works fine. I don't always use it too as some websites break especially news sites telling you to turn it off. So I mostly defaulted ABP to off expect for a few websites I know that are ad filled upon launching. If websites start locking said ad blocker you can try delete and another one instead of being tied into the single one built into the web browser. 

     

    That's the only down side to a built in ad blocker. I guess it would have to have default options settable to on and off options or to be able to delete, and still allow users to use their own third party ad blocker if they choose. VPN would be a pretty cool concept especially tied in or secondary option tied into InPrivate. I liked the VPN options on Opera Android. 

    • HotCakeX's avatar
      HotCakeX
      MVP
      That's right,
      but the thing is it's already there in Edge: edge://settings/content/ads
      Microsoft put something there and says it blocks ads (god knows what kind of ads they refer to lol) so all im asking is to improve on that and make it work 🙂
    • nikitat1260's avatar
      nikitat1260
      Steel Contributor

      Anthony I agree the user should choose to use a built-in blocker and a third-party blocker.

  • Dennis5mile's avatar
    Dennis5mile
    Silver Contributor

     


    nikitat1260 wrote:

    Hello. I'd like to see a built-in ad blocker like in opera. I think this feature will be useful and you don't need to install third-party blockers. also, in the case of your own blocker in edge, the problem of banning blockers will be solved.


    nikitat1260  HotCakeX 

     

    Actually there is a built in ads blocker in the last 2 versions of Canary.. Version 78.0.262.0 (Official build) canary (64-bit)..

     

    How well it works I don't know as I've not tested it out yet... 

     

     

    Also note that in this next picture there are no options to "add" sites to the blocked list nore to the "allowed" list...

     

    At least I've got it in my version.. could be one of those, chosen few...

     

    Dennis5mile

    • HotCakeX's avatar
      HotCakeX
      MVP
      Yeah it's obvious since it's in the settings page...
      but that's not what we meant. it has no difference whether it's on or off. think of it as a placebo.
      Opera's ad-blocker is similar to what ublock is, a real adblocker that works. and in today's internet, it's a must-have, so better be integrated into the browser itself.
      • Dennis5mile's avatar
        Dennis5mile
        Silver Contributor
        hhmm, how does ublock compare to AdGuard and/or Adblocker Ultimate? I use AdGuard on Edge classic, but can not seem to get them to add it here and I do not install anything from the huge security/dataminning chromeanything stores..... But I see ublock available in the store for Edge Can/Dev....

        Dennis5mile
      • cjc2112's avatar
        cjc2112
        Bronze Contributor

        nikitat1260 Youtube ads serve a purpose, though. Unless your watching a video posted by a corporation, many youtubers rely on the ads you watch.

  • Hi,
    since i haven't used Opera recently i wanna ask if its built-in adblocker is effective enough, like does it block all the ads on the websites? also does it block YouTube ads that appear on videos?
    • nikitat1260's avatar
      nikitat1260
      Steel Contributor

      HotCakeX Hello. I enjoyed opera 2 months ago for the last time. the video advertising was blocked including on yutube

      • HotCakeX's avatar
        HotCakeX
        MVP
        That's really nice. would be great to see similar function in the new Edge browser.
        maybe also a built-in VPN.

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