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Elliot Kirk
Microsoft
MicrosoftWe're Listening!
Greetings Microsoft Edge Insiders!
Let us start off by saying, welcome to the Microsoft Edge Insider community! We’re so excited to have you here, and we can’t wait to start learning from you. If you haven’t read our Welcome to the Microsoft Edge Insider community article yet, we recommend starting there. It has a bunch of great information on how we got here and where we’re heading.
Our mission:
Our mission is to create a thriving community of valuable Insiders, like you, so we can closely listen and learn how Microsoft Edge can be better. We believe that having open, honest, and continued conversations with our Insider community is a great way to build a close relationship with our users.
Why do all of this? Because we want to build a browser that’s deeply grounded in your needs. Your voice is the most important piece of helping us build a better Microsoft Edge. The feedback you provide leads to meaningful conversations that may ultimately produce the new features, bug fixes, and other improvements that matter the most to you. Listening is just the beginning for us. Our true goal is to build Microsoft Edge with the voice of the Insider community as our guiding light.
Community voice
When we announced the next version of Microsoft Edge back in December, we asked a simple question: If you could change one thing about the web, what would it be?
We were completely humbled by the over 40k comments you’ve shared with us. That’s a whole lot of ideas. Thank you!
You tell us that you love some things about the current Microsoft Edge browser, like the smooth scrolling experience, our Fluent Design and the precision touchpad, and you hope we’ll bring those things forward into the next version too.
Some of you are frustrated with the way that sites render so differently depending on the browser you're using to view them. You also tell us that Web Standards are on the top of your mind. We hear that you want all browsers to adopt the same standards. We hear from some of you web developers that you want new capabilities added to the web platform; whether that be in CSS, HTML or JavaScript. Another top request is an improved dev tools experience.
We hear that you have strong feelings about online advertising. Some of you wish ads that pop-up would just disappear and the same for auto-playing ads. While others feel a strong desire to remove or fundamentally change how online advertising works on the web. There is concern how these advertisements enable sites to track you as you browse which feels "creepy" and "invasive."
The overwhelming majority of comments (we’re talking thousands of messages) that we have read wish for a change in the fundamental attributes of the web. Make it faster, safer, more reliable and more private. You want your browsers to have smaller memory footprints, lower battery consumption, higher rendering speed and better stability. We agree with you wholeheartedly! The attributes that you say matter most in your browsing experience are performance, privacy, and reliability. So that is where we are starting.
We are focusing on delivering outstanding fundamentals. Speed, stability, accessibility, compatibility, security, and privacy are always top of mind for us. We are using your comments and suggestions to guide us while we are getting the new Microsoft Edge ready for its debut.
What’s next?
In the meantime, jump in, download the Microsoft Edge Insider Channels, and let us know what you think. What’s working well? Where do we need to improve? Over time, we hope to build healthy engagement and feedback loops with our community members.
We’re also mindful that our users have preferred ways to engage with us. Whether you view the latest information on the Microsoft Edge Insider website, enjoy direct discussions on our forum, need a personal support assistant via help (F1), share your feedback and suggestions via the smiley face, or just want to give us a shout on Twitter, we’re always listening and looking for ways to reach out wherever our users feel most comfortable and prefer to talk to us. We’re all ears!
Thank you for being here. We look forward to listening and engaging with you.
-The Microsoft Edge Team-
- I just found out another manipulative and privacy invasive strategy that the edge team adopts:
Even if you change your search engine to google search, when you open an "incognito tab", microsoft adds a privacy invasive "search privately with bing" that does not respect the default search engine, and does not allow users to customize with a service of their choice.Hello KeenBowl, I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish going into "incognito mode." That has nothing to do with masking your identity online. All it does is remove evidence of your online activity from the computer you were on. Also, if you're concerned about privacy, Google search is the worst engine to use. Google's business plan is to take all your information and sell it to others. When you use anything Google, YOU are the product. I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think that Microsoft is in the business of mining your information and selling it to others. The most secure search engine is Duck Duck Go, and it is selectable in Edge's settings page. Finally, on the incognito page, if you search in the URL window instead of the search window, it will select your chosen search engine.
Regards,
Dan- I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish going into "incognito mode.":
I'm trying to "remove evidence of your online activity from the computer i'm on".
Regardless of what I'm trying to do, what i definitely think is intentionally dishonest coming from the edge engineering team is to disrespect user's choice by pushing dark manipulative UI patterns onto unsuspecting users.
THe edge team is doing this with bing search in the sidebar, with all sorts of places that use search, and all sorts of user preferences that try to disable and replace microsoft services and microsoft data collection.
Meanwhile, the difference between google and microsoft is that google literally was founded on the principle of not being evil.
"I don't think that Microsoft is in the business of mining your information and selling it to others"
Microsoft is literally trying to get into that business right now with bing, edge, and all sorts of tracking and privacy violating products. One of the worst in that regard is vscode+github. It collects user's data, and sell's it to others. Linkedin collects user's data, and sell's it to others in the form of ads. Windows 10 and Windows 11 collects user's data, and sell's it to others in the form of ads and "suggestions". And on top of that, microsoft services are designed to make it intentionally hard to enforce user's choices of using other products, in the form of repeated violation's of preferences, and installed software.
- Thank you Edge team. This is such a good chromium web browser. I sent feedback via Edge and did get emails but cannot reply to see how the team is doing to fix the issues. Edge crashes unexpectedly while in the in-private mode, etc.
- Sometime around the month of June 2021, in Edge everytime we open a link to a pdf it opens up in a Edge tab. Which is fine, but at the top it indicates "Set Microsoft Edge as the default applications for reading PDF files?" with the options of "Set as Default" or "X" to close. How can we disable just this message from coming up so users won't accidentally hit "Set as Default"?
Je suis un utilisateur convaincu de 'Edge Canary' mais je voudrais juste pouvoir en faire mon application par défaut... comment faire? l'option est désactivée dans les paramètres de canary.
une idée?
Merci... toute aide sera appréciée.
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alveys wrote:Je suis un utilisateur convaincu de 'Edge Canary' mais je voudrais juste pouvoir en faire mon application par défaut... comment faire? l'option est désactivée dans les paramètres de canary.
une idée?
Merci... toute aide sera appréciée.
Hi, you can easily do it (set Edge as your default browser) from the Windows 10 settings => Apps => Default apps
- Looks like the translation didn't kick in so I'm just gonna put this here:
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I am a convinced user of 'Edge Canary' but I just wish I could make it my default application ... how to do it? the option is disabled in canary settings. : sad:
an idea?
Thanks ... any help will be appreciated.
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- I'm interested to know what the Roadmap is for Edge for iOS. My team needs to look into PWA support (specifically, offline storage) on this browser.
- Just discovered the highlight/drag/drop from the website bar. Good job!
Do not forget SET A SIDE fuctionality from the old edge browser
- Well stable was released and no set aside tab feature is with it.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/edge
that feature is still under review though- I saw that when I D/L'd it this morning. I wasn't expecting it, though. I would expect that to be in Canary and Dev first, and it's not there. I'm just trying to jog Elliot Kirk about it. 🙂
AkkiDev Elliot Kirk I concur. I really miss Set Aside Tabs. Even if it's not in the first stable release (which I know it won't), please put it on the list.
Thanks for all the hard work you and the team are putting into the new Edge!
Dan
- Dan,
I, also, agree. Along with a few other things, still, missing.
Cheers,
Drew
Sent from Windows Mobile
Hey!
Love the new browser! Actually I think it's gonna be the best one!
I had a problem when I wanted to read text in Hebrew via PDF "Note - Comments":
I think you need to enable Unicode characters for future languages as well.
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Also, got some important points to make on the "New Edge (2020)" experience I had when reading PDF files:
- "The Table of Contents" is perfect in "The Current Edge (2019)".
(see example:)
and in the "Newer Beta Version of Edge (2020)" this table is gone!
- This is more of an opinion advice:
When selecting text, it just looks weird on the "Newer Beta Version of Edge (2020)",
and it is very much disturbing me from reading.
(see example:)
and it the "The Current Edge (2019)" it looks perfectly fine:
(see example:)
- This Is a VERY important note, which makes Microsoft Edge an exceptional browser for PDF readings in my perspective:
Its PDFs are editable with "Highlights" and "Note - Comments" - and they are Very accessible.
(see example:)
The user can make different colors of "Highlights" or "Note - Comments" as fast as possible and with ease.
This is why I personally Always came back to reading PDFs in Microsoft Edge; and this is what I think makes it stand out from other browsers.
While in the "Newer Beta Version of Edge (2020)" this feature is gone!
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Thank you for your attention, and I hope I helped!
Tal Jacob
Hi Elliot Kirk A change log when Edge is updated would be useful. I enjoy being an Insider because I like to have early access to new features, and I like to be part of its development. However, if we knew what had changed with each update, then we could make a point of checking those things out and providing feedback. Couldn't a change log be shown on the Settings page once the browser has been restarted following an update, or at least a link to the information?
I'm using Canary as my only browser and I'm loving, but when are we going to get full (as per Edge legacy) PDF facilities? For me, Xodo is the perfect (free) PDF app, so if Edge can provide the same level then I'm an instant convert!
Happy New Year, and keep up the good work!
- Currently only Dev and Beta channels get official change log posts.
Canary also gets change log posts but it comes from us users 🙂
Elliot Kirk Autoplay on Homepages for embeded videos is a Microsoft flagship feature and I'm glad to see it "so far" continued in the chromium environment. What if edge were also the only "worldwide accepted browser" that autoplayed videos on cell phones, tablets & chromebooks. Why it would be like watching TV on your PC!
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