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Welcome to the Microsoft Edge Insiders community
Hello Microsoft Edge Insiders!
Ever since we first announced in December that Microsoft Edge was going to adopt the Chromium open source project for our desktop browser, we’ve been excited to begin launching our Insider community. The time has finally come, and everyone can try out the new version of the browser right now!
We want to use this opportunity to start building a close relationship with all of you. Going beyond collecting comments and reviews, we’re eager to listen and engage in active conversations with you. We believe your collective voices will help us build a better Microsoft Edge, and that’s our vision for this community.
With our recent adoption of Chromium, Microsoft Edge gets a chance to grow beyond its initial home on Windows 10. As we’ve reflected on the best ways to enable a new listening system to support other versions of Windows and platforms, we’ve realized that our goals should be based on what we want as customers, not as engineers or designers.
What would such a system look like? That’s where all of you come in. Based on the feedback you’ve graciously given us over the past few years, we know it’s important to be able to quickly and easily send us problems or suggestions from directly within the browser. You also want a way to engage meaningfully and deeply with the developers, as well as a way to get immediate support when you run into a problem that you can’t fix on your own.
Other Insider programs at Microsoft have provided good models for us to follow for our new community. However, the Microsoft Edge Insider community has one important difference: you don’t need to sign up. Just downloading and using the Microsoft Edge Canary, Dev, or Beta channels is enough.
We hope that this relationship can be beneficial for both parties. For you, this isn’t just about being a member of an active group of fellow browser enthusiasts. You also get: a chance to see new features before all the other Microsoft Edge users; an in-depth understanding of how and why we built them, a direct channel of communication with the engineers responsible for them, and the chance to critique them and suggest what we should build next. We at Microsoft get valuable early feedback, your verbal and written insights about what you do and don't like about a given feature or approach, which will help us steer the product in the right direction. The ability to dig deeper and understand the why behind the what, while learning from a large and diverse worldwide audience. Finally, through our continuing conversations, we hope Insiders will invite others in their own communities to come and join in our conversation.
So, what can you expect from us? As our new features start making their way into the builds, our goal is to publish at least one new article every other week to inform and encourage active discussions on the latest developments in the Insider channels. We are devoting some of our time to reading and responding to every thread, and you can expect direct interaction from the Microsoft Edge team that promotes the deepest, most enlightening discussions.
We’re fully committed to building an open, honest and respectful community of awesome Insiders like you. We hope you’ll join our discussions or start your own today.
Welcome to our community. We can’t wait to build a great Edge community together!
-The Microsoft Edge Team-
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- I just noticed that pin to start and pin to taskbar are missing. But for some reason pin to DESKTOP!??!?!??! has been added.
- If you were to rank them in order of importance, Mace242, what would it look like?
ElliotI think that the things that made Edge unique should be put back as a matter of urgency. I woild say this is the order
1. Fluent UI. The UI is basically chrome at the moment. The tabs are ugly and the start menu as a web page, as with chrome is clunky and hard to navigate. Having to do a find in page to find settings is horrible. Chrome tabs are ugly and contrary to the rest of the Windows 10 ui.
2. Pen interraction. Surface devices make a big deal about the pen and they are arguably one of the biggest appeals as MS devices. Annotation using the pen is a big draw for Edge.
3. Pin to start menu and pin to taskbar. These are features of windows 10. Without them and other similar features what we are seeing is an Edge that doesn't really fit into windows 10 as part of the eco system.
4. History. Look at the brilliant flyout that you get in old Edge. The chrome history menu is terrible in comparison. Same with downloads and favourites.
5. Tab previews and set aside. Again features unique to Edge that have gone.
I wonder if any of these things are going to ever be put back. TBH the current preview looks a bit, for want of a better word, lazy. Anyone with development experience could knock together the Egde preview given a copy of the chromium source. I say you get the people responsible for the decisions on the original egde design and ui to have input into the preview.
There is very, very little to recomment it over Chrome at the moment. In particular you will have a lag between updates chromium and them being released into the new edge. If a lot doesn't change then I can see that you will actually lose share to Chrome, rather than get more. In particular when you look at other chromium based browsers, such as Brave that seem to offer a few more features, such as inbuild security and blocking.
I've recently swapped to Outlook and Edge on all my devices, including Android but wihtout a lot of changes I can see that decision being reversed when new Edge goes live.
I think a lot of this is fairly common to those posting here and some kind of developmen schedule would go a long way to easing our fears. It doesn't have to be in depth or detailed. Something like a checklist saying yes or no to fluent ui, yes or no to pen note support, etc.
A final note.... It does seem to perform better than Chrome. But performance isn't everything. People wouldn't like driving a ferrari if the seats were made of stone and metal spikes....
Fluent design and auto-loading of the next page are the two features that i missed from the old Edge
EDIT: The correct name for the feature is "Page prediction"
- PsycOwl, Thank you for the feedback. I am not sure that I completely understand the auto-loading of the next page comment. Can you explain a little more what you are looking for?
Thanks,
ElliotWhen you scroll to bottom of the page, if there is a next page like the one in the picture, Edge preloads the next page and when you press the forward button from mouse thumb buttons, Edge goes forward to that page
EDIT: The correct name of that feature is "page prediction"
Love what you guys are doing! Keep up the good work, loving the new Chromium Edge! Elliot Kirk
- Thank you SalmanMKC. Please keep using the new browser and let us know what you think.
Elliot
Hi Elliot Kirk,
I tried clearing the cache in both Chrome beta ver 74 and Microsoft Edge Dev, it solved the problem in Chrome but Edge Dev still gives me the same error. the original Edge is fine though.
- Thank you for letting me know. I will continue looking into this issue.
Elliot
Elliot Kirk Congrats on the Insider launch! For a canary build, this is surprisingly really good and solid! I have uninstalled Chrome 😁. Is there a forum in here to submit feedback or does the team prefer sending feedback via the smiley face in the app itself?
Some initial feedback I have:
- Dark theme (with options: Light, Dark, System)
- Add "New InPrivate window" and Pinned Site to to the Windows task bar icon.
- Needs more Fluent design elements (acrylic, reveal highlight, etc.)
- New icon (no matter how amazing Edge is, the general public still associates a blue 'e' with the outdated perception of IE).
- In the Settings page, the left menu looks a bit tight, maybe add a little bit more spacing to give it breathing room and improve accessibility and touch usability.
- Add native Microsoft Translator support
- Add inking support with OneNote integration
- Thank you for the feedback Justin Philip! You can use either the smiley or the forums, or both. We are listening to both.
ElliotHello, :)
Thanks for having the Edge Insider Forum. Good to see in real time how things are moving.
Too early for feedback, but no doubt, there will be some.
Stefan
- Are you going to add the pen notes facility from Edge classic? This is something i use all the time. On a surface. You're removing a feature ideally suied to hardware you make.
Mace242
There are heaps of things this does not have, yet. A Favs star, Reading view, Web notes and so much more. It is tough, right now, to know what to say is missing, wanted, needed OR not done YET. Oodles of familiar Features & Functionality isn't there. What IS there is ok & the performance seems good. Personally, I keep hoping (Read: expecting) we'll have the rest, anon.
Cheers,
DrewI could no connect to my old WD Cloud Drive with previous version of Edge.
Had to goto Goggle, now I can can connect using new edge!
Grate Update!
Bob Mauk
- Hi, just want to report a bug inside this website. so when i go here https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Discussions/bd-p/EdgeInsiderDiscussions with a logged in account, i get this error and the submit botton to make a new discussion is not there. happens to both Google chrome and New Microsoft Edge. Java method "lithium.coreapi.webui.template.models.NamedValueByNameTemplateModel.get(String)" threw an exception when invoked on lithium.coreapi.webui.template.models.NamedValueByNameTemplateModel object "lithium.coreapi.webui.template.models.NamedValueByNameTemplateModel@ec61809"; see cause exception in the Java stack trace. ---- FTL stack trace ("~" means nesting-related): - Failed at: #assign liLiConConfigPage = webuisupp... [in template "lingotek_macro_header.ftl" at line 139, column 1] - Reached through: #include "lingotek_macro_header.ftl" [in template "custom-messages-list" at line 450, column 9] ----
Hi HotCakeX, thank you fro reporting this. We have seen this same thing a couple of times now, and think that it occurs if you had signed into the forums in the past. The best thing that we have found is to clear your browser cache. It should go away immediately. If it doesn't please let me know, and I will continue to investigate.
Thanks,
Elliot
Please improve the scrolling speed as it is too sensitive for the touchpad of the laptop(by default).One suggession from my side is that the microsoft edge is an official browser of windows 10, so try and make its UI similer to that of windows 10 for instace:- The glowing of the borders while hover any tile in notification tab or in the settings with mouse, the dark mode and the introduction of the CORTANA, in the search bar. Although it has improved a lot more than before, Thanks to the whole microsoft team for doing such a hardwork and to make things best for their customers.
- Please don't change the mouse scroll though. It's perfect how it is and the OG Edge mouse wheel scrolling was very jerky.
What have you done to the UI? Are you planning on actually implementing any fluent elements? One of the best parts of Edge was the UI and you have thrown the baby out with the bathwater. Currently it is a slightly slower, slightly more confusing chrome and I see no reason to actually use it over chrome.
Mace242 Yes it should get Fluent design elements with XAML Islands but that is completely my speculation... We don't know yet since this is an preview mostly for devs to test their sites to see if they work better but we should see some new consumer features soon.
Mace242 I have to disagree with you on the speed. I'm finding sites are loading faster in Edge Dev than in chrome. Even Google sites like gmail are faster and smoother.
"Even Google sites like gmail are faster and smoother. "
That's really because you're essentially using Chrome and those sites are optimised for it. If you do a totally clean install of Chrome with no extensions - as I suspect you are running new Edge - then I bet Chrome will be the same. With the new Edge what we're seeing is not Edge with a new engine. It's jsut a rebuild of the chromium source. Compare it with something that is the same - such as Brave - and you'll see that new Edge simply isn't unique - or even new.
It's really fast compared to Edge. Good feelings. I'll post some comments and reviews in the following days. Thanks Elliot Kirk
