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Introducing the new Extensions menu on the toolbar
In the post, there are two methods mentioned: 1) leaving a comment here, and 2) sending feedback via the browser Send Feedback form. If both are equal, that's great!
The extension change appears have people with passionate feedback (I feel strongly myself), and I'd like to feel confident it reaches the developer team through the right process. Thanks!
- Alexandra-RMar 11, 2021Former EmployeeHey there mep001!
For threads (like this one) that we post specifically asking for feedback, both methods mentioned in the post have equal weight. Feature teams and community managers collaborate on these posts and ensure that we're reviewing the feedback in the thread as well as what's sent via the browser.
For feedback that isn't part of a larger discussion, or for reporting bugs/issues, the in-browser feedback is the preferred method and ensures that we (community managers and feature teams) see the feedback.
The feature team is reviewing the feedback around the new extensions menu, but we are still listening to new feedback coming in both here and through the browser. So, if there's something you like, don't like, want to see done differently, or even something you have trouble doing now that you didn't before the menu change - let us know! 😃- Mike GlennMar 17, 2021Iron Contributor
Hello. I'm glad to hear the team is still keeping an eye out for feedback. Extensions toolbar menu has grown on me over the last couple weeks. Now I actually prefer it. However, for those who used the overflow menu, the transition can be quite rough. Hopefully, team Edge can create a less jarring on-ramp.
Why I Prefer the New Extensions Menu:- All your extensions plus hide, more actions, manage and find more extensions are all together and just one click away. It's a better overall experience once you get used to it.
- Being able to see full extension titles rather than having to hover over each one is better for the same reason vertical tabs are better. I memorized all my extension icons. But the more you have, the more helpful this new design should be (IMO).
- Discoverability is better—especially for users who rarely venture into Settings and right-click menus.
- Makes for a cleaner, more consistent Settings menu. I like Edge's overflow menu compared to some other browsers. But in retrospect, it always looked a bit like a hack—increasingly so as you push more extensions into overflow.
Ideas for a Smoother Transition:
If you're someone who hides toolbar icons by carefully reordering then expanding your address bar and/or using the right-click hide menu, this change can feel downright rude. It's not likely to be a problem for users who rarely if ever customize or use extensions, but it's not a good idea to upset thousands of geeks who do.- Do NOT dump all the icons a user has carefully hidden back out onto the toolbar without warning. The extensions menu should at least start with all the same icons hidden.
- Alphabetical order is a good default IMO, but previous icon order should optionally be preserved if possible. The ability to at least reorder by drag and drop, as mentioned by HotCakeX, would probably be appreciated by many.
- Using the same icon for the new toolbar menu and settings menu was confusing at first (at least for me). Since I hadn't heard about the new toolbar icon yet, I thought "how did this get promoted to my taskbar?" So, instead of left-clicking to open, I immediately right-clicked to hide it. After that, one pretty much has to do some reading and/or digging through menus to find it again. Somehow, make it as obvious as possible that this is not the settings menu control—at least on first use and before someone has a chance to right-click on it.
- The greater surprise and pain is when you discover none of the previous methods of hiding icons works anymore—especially after you've hidden the darn icon before realizing what it was. Maybe add a warning about that too in a first-experience pop-up?
- I don't know if you can make this feature optional and maintain both methods. I've already reached the point where I'm okay with the change, but we all know not everyone will be quite as receptive.
- azrael99Mar 18, 2021Iron Contributor
What you've pointed out and others who were "used" to this new extension button has been rinse and repeated by those who dislike this feature. There were no significant issues with Extensions at all - why fix what isn't broken? They had bigger fish to fry like having Edge be more tablet and touch friendly.
The Edge devs have "promised" a look and feel that will be independent of Chrome but it's the exact opposite - the Edge browser is starting to look more of Google Chrome than have its independent aesthetic design. Vertical tabs is putting a lipstick on a piggy - close but no cigar there IMO. It's been years since you introduced Fluent design and it's still not implemented decently in your browser and worst yet, it feels like you guys have given up and just following what Google does.
What others have suggested have been implemented by Firefox - the customizable overflow menu as shown in the screenshots below are an example of what a lot of us envision this to be. For me it's not perfect - I hope I can delete the separator...but it's much better than what Edge has.
I've been using Edge as my main browser since it was introduced (used Firefox, Opera and Vivaldi sparingly) but ever since they've been moving closer and closer to being just a copy of the world's most popular browser; I've been appreciating how Firefox has become.