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Introducing Buy now, pay later in Microsoft Edge
I happen to agree with the comments that this should not be built into Edge, or at least be trivial to turn off (including the option to disable it whenever it pops up), but the absurd over-the-top anger seems wildly misplaced.
A lot of these comments are also using the same poor English and grammar and exact same words to criticize this BNPL feature. Seems more like one person or a small group of people are spamming this article in an effort to make an anti-MS news story out of this. Or maybe the poster(s) are from an actual BNPL company that competes with Zip and doesn't want to lose the business if this becomes an automatic alternative.
Note the multiple references to Windows 11 and the Widgets bar in the same posts where people say they're a Mac user, but will drop Edge for Chrome on a Mac because of this... and because of Widgets on Win 11? Clearly, those are not real posts.
I'm sure some of these comments are sincere, but unfortunately, they appear to be lost in the sea of non-insider posts who "created an account just to respond do this."
- SteviebukDec 01, 2021Copper ContributorNo it has nothing to do with that. Its because this promotes debt. So a billion dollar company (Microsoft) is encouraging its users to go into debt. Its well known lots of people miss the payments and then will be charged the interest. People are being encouraged, by Microsoft, to buy stuff they can't afford. Its like the pay day loans in the UK. Its awful.
This is the lowest I've ever seen Microsoft go. I suspect there will be a u-turn on this as its REALLY bad publicity. - Nov 30, 2021
GraniteStateColin I'm a human being, network admin, security person, as well as someone who thinks this is just a bad thing to be building into a browser
"But generally speaking, if you don't have the cash now, you probably shouldn't be doing this."
I like Edge. I honestly do. But then someone in management at Microsoft has clearly made a financial deal that just puts a bad taste in my mouth. My browser shouldn't be for sale like this to the highest bidder. Make it secure. Make it fast. Make super duper secure mode default. But stop doing boneheaded decisions like this.
- Languageservicesco61Nov 29, 2021Copper ContributorI have to say, yours is the first post on this thread that screams fake to me. There are only two posts in the entire thread where people mention they are Mac users, for example. I didn't bother checking the truth of the other comments. Why wouldn't people object to this?
- AnonymousNov 29, 2021Hello 🙂
macOS / iOS has their own widgets and some of the links like address or other stuff like what's new in macOS opens safari. The reason why Edge and Bing is getting not good likes is since people jus don;t like bing.
- AnonymousNov 29, 2021Hi Colin,
This is my only acount and I believe that Microsoft is making a monopoly out of Windows 11 and Edge. Like how they did with IE, it's very sad.
They are forcing Edge and their services a little too extreme.- GraniteStateColinNov 29, 2021Iron Contributor
Shawn, thanks for the reply. I don't see that at all though. It's just as easy as ever to use Chrome or Firefox or Opera. I have all of those installed. I use Chrome for Google services, Opera for the built-in VPN, and used to use Firefox for the dynamic bookmarks that integrate with RSS feeds (haven't used it so much lately, as Edge has gotten so good). I do have Edge set as my default browser, but that's trivial to change to any other browser.
The ONLY thing MS has done that forces Edge seems entirely reasonable to me: for their own widgets, they integrate into the system's built-in browser, because that's the only browser they can count on being included. If you installed some Google app for Windows, I would similarly understand (and expect) that app to use Chrome as its display engine. Much worse was what Google did with Edge on Android and YouTube: for a time they blocked Edge from playing YouTube videos. They didn't even redirect to Chrome, which at least would have worked, they just made sure that the videos wouldn't play in Edge. That's so much worse than this and really demonstrates the hypocrisy of those saying "Because of this, I'm going back to Chrome."
Regardless, I don't see what that has to with including a BNPL service. Again, I agree that it should not be part of the browser. But with BNPL, that's just because I want to keep the browser lightweight and this particular feature feels a lot more like what you'd get from an Extension, but would that be my opinion if I used BNPL? Harder to say. Probably most of us want Edge to include the features we like and don't "waste development time or CPU cycles" on features we don't care about. I never would have asked for the Coupon feature, but I've found that useful a few times. I LOVE Collections. Collections have changed how I use a browser and the web. Vertical tabs is another. These are all features I never would have thought I wanted, until I tried them, because they were there. If MS doesn't add these things, I never would have tried them on my own. I don't see that applying to BNPL, because I want the miles I get when I buy with my credit card, but obviously different people will have different preferences. Not every feature matters to everybody.- BioTurboNickNov 29, 2021Iron Contributor
There are a couple issues here.
If Edge wants to build-in a secure payment manager, that makes some sense. And if companies could have a way to plug their branding into it, fine.
What is rather icky is pushing a particular, almost predatory scheme on all users by a new company trying to boost its market share, and Microsoft agreeing to help them do that with one of their flagship software products.