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HotCakeX's avatar
Aug 09, 2019

Request: remove credit card registration when signing up for a Free Azure account.

Microsoft can ask for name, phone number etc, but credit card shouldn't be a requirement for people who just want to sign up for the Azure for the first time and try it for Free. 

once they choose to expand their abilities and purchase more resources and plans then sure credit card can be used.

  • Haughom's avatar
    Haughom
    Copper Contributor

    HotCakeX 

    I believe the reason for this is to prevent people from using fake/temp information for generating tenants/subscriptions, especially with the free credits ($200) for the first 30 days.

    • MarcosValois's avatar
      MarcosValois
      Copper Contributor

      Haughom , there must be other ways to avoid this. To me, asking for a credit card for an alleged free trial account seems... a fake offer. I'm sorry, but this is the first impression I get.

      • HotCakeX's avatar
        HotCakeX
        MVP

        MarcosValois 


        MarcosValois wrote:

        Haughom , there must be other ways to avoid this. To me, asking for a credit card for an alleged free trial account seems... a fake offer. I'm sorry, but this is the first impression I get.


        absolutely,

        verification by address, phone number, Email address.

         

        the thing is that even prepaid cards don't work (I've tried), you need to have a bank account associated with your card.

         

        for a free trial service, this requirement shouldn't be there.

         

  • Kamlesh Kumar's avatar
    Kamlesh Kumar
    Bronze Contributor
    I think for security purposes and prevent fake accounts to get $200 per email id, credit card details are required and this should be there. Even Microsoft is not charging without your permissio for some period.
    • HotCakeX's avatar
      HotCakeX
      MVP
      You say 200$ as if it's real money and we can withdraw it to our bank accounts lol.
      that money is Fake, just a virtual token to allow users to test Azure services.

      Many services that offer trial test accounts do the same thing,
      for example Spotify trial.
      it's like Spotify tell you that you have 10$ on your account and you can use it to test Spotify premium for 1 month. so what? does it mean they are giving you 10$ real money? Of course Not. it's just ANOTHER WAY of Saying that they are letting trial users test their service for 1 month. i'm surprised that it's so hard to understand for some people...

      so it's not the reason why Microsoft is asking free trial users for their credit card details.
      • HidMov's avatar
        HidMov
        Steel Contributor

        HotCakeX 

         

        But your trial is still a cost to those companies - in Azure's case you are still using resources; power, compute, storage, the infrastructure set up to run resources. 

         

        I imagine some bean counter counter has figured out all the variables on the most effective way they can entice orgs to try Azure with the least cost to them and the highest retention rate. Throwing up an additional barrier like needing a credit card is going to reduce the amount of people gaming the system and the cost to MS. Setting up 5 new gmail accounts is relatively non-trivial compared to applying for 5 credit cards. I suspect there's probably some psychology involved about putting your credit card info in at the start so it's already ready when the trial ends, but that kind of stuff is beyond me.

         

        ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

         

        Fact is, Spotify have their own guys to work out the money and figure they can give people 3 months free and the retention rate is sufficient for that to make financial sense to them. Fwiw, I believe AWS also requires a credit card to sign up.

  • AhmedWarwani's avatar
    AhmedWarwani
    Copper Contributor

    HotCakeX 
    Yes your are right, Microsoft should remove the credit card registration when signing up for a free Azure account.

    Is it real money LOL.


    If they are offering free then why are they asking about credit card information..

    • HotCakeX's avatar
      HotCakeX
      MVP
      Yes I agree, unfortunately it's a trend that other companies have started to follow as well.
      for example when you have a 3 months code to use an online service, you have to provide credit card information. and the idea behind is to provide a way to pay after your subscription ends. no one thinks that maybe the user only wants to use it for 3 months and don't want to have recurring payment.

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