Windows Hello passkeys dialog appearing and cannot remove or suppress it.
Hi everyone, I’m dealing with a persistent Windows Hello and passkey issue in Chrome and Brave and yes this is relevant as they're the only browsers having this issue whilst Edge for example is fine, and at this point I’m trying to understand whether this is expected behavior, a bug, or a design oversight. PS. Yes, I'm in contact with related browser support teams but since they seem utterly hopeless i'm asking here, since its at least partially Windows Hello issue. Problem description Even with: Password managers disabled in browser settings, Windows Hello disabled in Chrome/Brave settings, Windows Hello PIN enabled only for device login, Passkeys still stored under chrome://settings/passkeys (which I cannot delete since its used for logging on the device), The devices are connected to Entra ID but this is not required to reproduce the issue although a buisness account configuration creates a Passkey with Windows Hello afaik. Observed behavior When I attempt to sign in on office.com, Windows Hello automatically triggers a dialog offering authentication via passkeys, even though: I don’t want passkeys used for browser logins, passkeys are turned off everywhere they can be, Windows Hello is intended only for local device authentication. The dialog cannot be suppressed, disabled, or hidden(trust me, i tried for weeks). It effectively forces the Windows Hello prompt as a primary option, which causes problems both personally and in business contexts (wrong credential signaling, misleading users that are supposed to use a dedicated password manager solution insted of browser password managers, enforcing an unwanted authentication flow, etc.). What I already verified Many, many, (too many) Windows registry workarounds that never worked. Dug through almost all flags on those browsers. Chrome/Brave → Password Manager: disabled Chrome/Brave → Windows Hello toggle: off Looked through what feels like almost every related option in Windows Settings. Tried gpedit.msc local rules System up to date Windows Hello configured to use PIN, but stores "passkeys used to log on to this device" Why this is a problem Windows Hello automatically assumes that the device-level Windows Hello credentials should always be available as a WebAuthn authenticator. This feels like a big security and UX issue due to: unexpected authentication dialogs, Inability to controll where and how passkey credential are shared to applications, inability to turn the feature off, no administrative or local option to disable Hello for WebAuthn separately from device login. Buisness users either having issues with keeping passwords in order (our buissnes uses a dedicated Password Manager but this behaviour covers its dialog option) or not having PIN to their devices (when I disable windows hello entierly, since when there is no passkeys the option doesn't appear) Questions Is there any supported way to disable Windows Hello as a WebAuthn/passkey option in browsers, while keeping Hello enabled for local device login? Is this expected behavior from the Windows Hello, or is it considered a bug? Are there registry/policy settings (documented or upcoming) that allow disabling the Windows platform authenticator specifically for browsers like Chrome and Brave? Is Microsoft aware of this issue? If so, is it tracked anywhere? Additional notes This issue replicates 100% across (as long as there are passkeys configured): Windows 11 devices i've managed to get my hands on, Chrome and Brave (latest versions), multiple Microsoft accounts and tenants, multiple clean installations. Any guidance or clarification from the Windows security or identity teams would be greatly appreciated. And honestly if there is any more info i could possibly provide PLEASE ask away.
How to: Enabling MFA for Active Directory Domain Admins with Passwordless Authentication
Administer on premise Active Directory Using Azure Passwordless Authentication removing Domain Admins passwords Hello Guys, I am here just to demonstrate that today is technically possible (Proof of Concept): Configure a modern MFA solution to access on prem Windows 10 PC Use that solution to protect privileged accounts passwords Eradicate from the domain the password presence for those privileged accounts (make impossible to use a password to log on to domain to prevent some king of password attacks) Have the ability to use multiple PAWs (privileged access workstation) with same MFA credential Have only one identity with one strong credential Same credential can be used on prem and in cloud (if needed) Connect to Domain Controller thorough RDP form the PAW using SSO (Single Sign On) Obtain above with a sort of simplicity and costs control I am not here to discuss if this document in any parts adhere to all principles and best practices of a secure administration environment, I just want to show a feature as a proof of concept. It’s up to you to integer this work into your security posture and evaluate impacts. No direct or indirect guarantee is given, and this cannot be considered official documentation. The content is provided “As Is”. Have look more deeply above points: Many customers asked me, after they have used Azure/Office 365 MFA: is it possible to use something like that to log on to the domain/on prem resources. The solution is today present : the use a security key (FIDO2) : Passwordless security key sign-in to on-premises resources - Azure Active Directory | Microsoft Docs. Please have a look also at Plan a passwordless authentication deployment with Azure AD | Microsoft Docs. I wanted to demonstrate that this solution can protect also Domain Admins group to protect high privileged accounts (important notice about is present in this document : (FAQs for hybrid FIDO2 security key deployment - Azure Active Directory | Microsoft Docs – “FIDO2 security key sign-in isn't working for my Domain Admin or other high privilege accounts. Why?”). After having substituted the password with one MFA credential (private key + primary factor) (here more information : Azure Active Directory passwordless sign-in | Microsoft Docs) we can configure a way to make the password not necessary for domain administration, very long and complex, and disabled: Passwordless Strategy - Microsoft 365 Security | Microsoft Docs With other MFA tool (e.g. Windows Hello for Business), if we want to use different PAWs (secured workstations from which the Administrator connects with privileged accounts Why are privileged access devices important | Microsoft Docs) we need to configure and enroll the solution machine per machine (create different private keys one for any windows desktop). With the described solution below the enrollment happens only once (the private key is only one per identity and is portable and only present inside the USB FIDO key) and is potentially usable on all secure desktop/PAWs in the domain. The dream is: to have one identity and one strong credential: this credential (private key installed in the FIDO physical key) is protected by a second factor (what you know (PIN) or what you are (biometric), it is portable and usable to consume services and applications on premises and in cloud To connect using RDP to another/third system after this kind of strong authentication is performed on the physical PC a password is needed (but we really want to eradicate the use of a password)….So.. We can use a Windows 10 / Windows 2016 and afterwards feature (Remote Credential Guard Protect Remote Desktop credentials with Windows Defender Remote Credential Guard (Windows 10) - Microsoft 365 Security | Microsoft Docs) to remove this limitation. If you have a certain hybrid infrastructure already in place (What is hybrid identity with Azure Active Directory? | Microsoft Docs, Configure hybrid Azure Active Directory join for managed domains | Microsoft Docs, etc.), the activation of this solution is simple and there are no important added costs (a FIDO key costs around 20 / 30 euros) The solution is based on 3 important features: AzureAD/Fido Keys, Remote Credential Guard and primarily Active Directory SCRIL Feature [ https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/identity-protection/hello-for-business/passwordless-strategy#transition-into-a-passwordless-deployment-step-3 : "...SCRIL setting for a user on Active Directory Users and Computers. When you configure a user account for SCRIL, Active Directory changes the affected user's password to a random 128 bits of data. Additionally, domain controllers hosting the user account do not allow the user to sign-in interactively with a password. Also, users will no longer be troubled with needing to change their password when it expires, because passwords for SCRIL users in domains with a Windows Server 2012 R2 or early domain functional level do not expire. The users are effectively passwordless because: the do not know their password. their password is 128 random bits of data and is likely to include non-typable characters. the user is not asked to change their password domain controllers do not allow passwords for interactive authentication ...] Chapter 1 – Enable Passwordless authentication and create your key Enable the use of FIDO Keys for Passwordless authentication. In Azure AD \ Security \ Authentication methods, enable the use of a security key for a specific group and set the keys settings in accordance with the HW provider of the key (in my case Force Attestation and Key Restriction set to off). Confirm Hybrid Device Join. Confirm your Windows 10 2004+ PC are Hybrid Device Joined. Confirm users and all involved groups are hybrid Confirm all involved users or groups are correctly replicated by AD Connect, have Azure Active Directory properly configured and login in cloud works correctly Implement Kerberos Server to foster on prem SSO (Single Sign On) for on prem resources follow this guidance Passwordless security key sign-in to on-premises resources - Azure Active Directory | Microsoft Docs Enroll the key. Please don’t use Incognito Web Mode (sign out already connected users and use “switch to a different account”). If during enrollment errors come up, check if any user is already signed into the browser (in the new Edge use “Browse as Guest” that is different from “Incognito Mode”). Login to Office.com with the user you want to provide the USB KEY and reach My Account page In My Account page open Security Info and initialize the USB Key. https://mysignins.microsoft.com/security-info If not completed before, enable MFA authentication by using a phone (SMS) or Authenticator App (in this case the user was not already provided of MFA , so the systems automatically make you enroll the authenticator app in your phone) Now, because you have an MFA tool, you can create/enroll a security key: add method / USB Key. The browser challenges you to insert a key.. to inject your identity into it Create a new PIN ! Confirm touching the key Name the key Done - security Key is enrolled with your identity Perform an Office365 Passwordless Authentication Verify you are able to sign on to O365 using the Key w/o the use of a password. Please use Microsoft Edge, if already logged click right corner and “browse as a guest” Please remember to click in “Sign in Options” to trigger key authentication : Well done: you are logged in the cloud Passwordless! Chapter 2 – Enable on prem multifactor login Deploy a GPO – Group Policy Object- to enable FIDO2 on prem login with Windows 10 2004+. In your on prem environment we can enable the use of USB key credential provider (Windows has multiple credential providers: password, usb key, smartcard, et.). Enable and link this setting to your Windows 10 2004+ machines. Restart involved machines. Now you will see a new icon to login to the PC. Clicking on sign in option you can use this new credential provides – FIDO security key - . Insert the Usb key, type the PIN… On some FIDO Keys you can avoid PIN with biometric (fingerprint). You can use the same identity/credential in all the PC with the FIDO credential provider enabled. Remember that currently for on prem sign on only one user per key is available (you can’t have multiple identity on the same usb key). Please note that this kind of authentication is recognized by Azure/O365 cloud as one already claimed MFA so when you open your preferred application the connection is in SSO (you don’t have to re-authenticate or perform another strong auth). Please note that with the same key you can login to the cloud applications using MFA from external computers w/o any modifications (like kiosks, byod computers, etc). Please note that you have access to all on prem services because the Kerberos server we installed above is useful to foster the obtention of Kerberos tickets for on prem AD service consumption Chapter 3 – Use FIDO KEYS to protect privileged users (Domain Admins) and De-materialize their password. Now we are going to enable a FIDO key for the Domain Admin or configure FIDO KEYS to work with privileged users. The default security policy doesn't grant Azure AD permission to sign high privilege accounts on to on-premises resources. To unblock the accounts, use Active Directory Users and Computers to modify the msDS-NeverRevealGroup property of the Azure AD Kerberos Computer object (e.g. CN=AzureADKerberos,OU=Domain Controllers,<domain-DN>). Remove all privileged groups you want to use with FIDO KEYS. Consider one user might be member of different groups, so remove all wanted user is member of. I removed all groups with the exception of Domain Controllers .. Make the test user member of Domain Admins group Wait AD Connect Sync Time (normally at least of 30 min) Now enroll the FIDO Usb Key for the privileged account following Chapter 1 of this guide Now test the Login with the Domain Admin using the FIDO KEY and check the possibility to be authenticated to onprem services (e.g. Fileshares, MMC - ADUC Consoles, etc.). Try the high privilege like creating a new user…. Now that we have one alternative way to Sign In on prem and in cloud (instead of password) we can work on password eradication. Obviously, every application we want to use must not use passwords (work in SSO with AD or Azure AD). This is not a problem for a privileged accounts because these should not have any application access nut only accesses to administrative consoles We will enable SCRIL policy (Smart Card is required for interactive logons) for the privileged user: Smart Card is required for interactive logon = the user password is reset and made random and complex, unknown by humanity, the use of password for interactive login is disabled Test you can’t access with password anymore To complete and strengthen the password eradication we want to prevent the use of the password also for network authentications using the NTLM protocol, so we are going to make the user member of “protected users” group Protected Users Security Group | Microsoft Docs. This because if a bad guy reset that user’s password, he/she might use the NTLM protocol to log on using password, bypassing interactive log on. Protected Users disables the entire usability of NTLM protocol that is not needed to common AD administration. If you don’t want to disable NTLM protocol and If you have Domain Functional Level 2016 you can also enable NTLM rolling to make NTLM password hash to cycle every login and improve the password eradication What's new in Credential Protection | Microsoft Docs (Rolling public key only user's NTLM secrets) Probably you want to use that user to log in to privileged systems with Remote Desktop. By default, Remote Desktop Protocol requests the use of passwords … Here we don’t have a password to write because the password is unknown by humanity….. so … how to? The simplest way to solve the above problem is to use Remote Credential Guard feature if you have the needed requirements (..Windows 10, version 1607 or Windows Server 2016.. or above) What's new in Credential Protection | Microsoft Docs To enable it on the server we want to connect to, just add this registry key using the example command reg add HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa /v DisableRestrictedAdmin /d 0 /t REG_DWORD From the client where we used the FIDO login, just run RDP with the parameter /RemoteGuard Now also the RDP remote authentication performs well without passwords!!! Now we signed in a Domain Controller using a MFA key and is no more possible to use a password for domain administration. Update1: using temporary access password might be possible to never assign even a beginning password to a Domain Admin neither need a phone authentication. Configure a Temporary Access Pass in Azure AD to register Passwordless authentication methods | Microsoft Docs As detailed above, create a Domain Admin on prem, immediately enable SCRIL and Protected Users, wait AD connect sync time, create a temporary password for that admin user (the temporary password can only be used to enable an MFA credential w/o using a Phone and w/o the risk of someone else accessing applications during the configuration phase). We recommend to maintain Azure Global Admins and Active Directory Domain Admins identities separately, so don't make synced Domain Admins member of Azure Global Admins role.
[Question] Authenticating users with their Mifare 1k Badge
Hello everyone! I am writing here because I need advice, after searching online for a while without finding any inputs that could help me realize what I have in mind. Basically, our employees all have a Mifare Classic 1k badge that they use to register their presence in the morning. Some of them have access to a PC, and we would like to migrate the login method from a classic username&password to something passwordless and more secure. Since we already have a ton of Mifare Classic 1k contactless cards, we were wondering if they could be used like "smart cards", to store user certificates or credentials, or something like that, so that users can log into Windows with those. I have been reading Microsoft's documentation about Custom Credential Providers, and I am starting to think that unless we want to change our whole presence detection system, that would be the way to go. Should we develop our own Credential Provider? Is there another way to achieve something like that while maintaining the existing infrastructure? If that is not the case, may I ask how would you face this challenge? If there is absolutely no way to use our current technology, could you please suggest an alternative to achieve the same result? Thanks for taking the time to read this post, have a nice day! Dennis
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one of my colleague asked a question and i couldn't help him maybe here you ll be able to clarify <::One of my customers mentioned, that they want to be proactively informed about security incidents and news around the topic security from Microsoft, as they have critical infrastructure. Does anyone know, which newsletter that customer could register for?::>Allow Use of Microsoft Authenticator OTP in Azure AD
Hi All, We wanted to enabled number matching and Passwordless with Microsoft Authenticator app and when I go to there I could see the below setting under configurations. But I wanted to make sure what that setting is and what it the recommended configurations for this "Allow Use of Microsoft Authenticator OTP" before configure in production environment. appreciate if anyone could help me on this. Thanks, DilanEnable Password Expiration - Update-MgUser -PasswordPolicies None does not work
Hello, good morning everyone! I hope all is well with everyone. Well, I need to activate the option to force passwords to expire every period. I used the Admin Center for this. However, I noticed that the accounts always remain this way UserPrincipalName // PasswordNeverExpires email address removed for privacy reasons // False I get the impression that the accounts will not expire the passwords as I wish. I use the command Update-MgUser –UserId <account id> -PasswordPolicies None but absolutely nothing happens. I really need to activate this. Is there an internal case that I can resolve or that requires intervention from MS Support?Browser support on iPad is not clear for FIDO2
Hi All, I am trying to use FIDO2 security keys to login into MS accounts using NFC transport on latest iPad OS 17.2 but seems like there is no support by Microsoft yet. I couldn't find anything on below compatibility matrix: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/entra/identity/authentication/fido2-compatibility even though I was able to login with FIDO2 NFC keys on other identity provider websites like Okta using Safari as well Chrome on iPad. Does anyone know if it not supported officially? I can't find any information on iPads anywhere.
