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ancilmohammed
Copper Contributor
Jul 14, 2020

Upgrade of server 2008 r2 / 2012 to 2019

I would like to do an in place upgrade of the following:
1. 2008R2 -> 2012R2 -> 2019
2. 2012 -> 2012R2 -> 2019

How do I purchase license? Should I only buy the 2019 or do I need the 2012R2 or 2016?
  • ancilmohammed 

    Hi Ancil,

     

    I have the same opinion as Dave regarding the inplace upgrade, that makes absolutely no sense and will> 90% not go well either.

     

    Regarding the licenses, however, I have a different opinion than Dave. If you have valid licenses for the 2019 server, you do not need any additional licenses for the intermediate steps. In the case of volume licenses, this is 100% because you also acquire the right of use for the older versions when you purchase the volume licenses. This point is disputed for OEM licenses because MS does not explicitly provide for downgrade rights in the EULA. On the other hand, the MS-EULA has only a very limited legal validity depending on the country.

     

    Regards from Germany

     

    Alex

  • An in-place upgrade is never recommended, better option is to clean install, patch fully, migrate roles over. Yes, you're correct you cannot in-place upgrade using evaluation media so you need to purchase the intermediate steps. Also seems a slim chance that the 2008 hardware would have support for Server 2019.

     

    https://www.windowsservercatalog.com/

     

     

     

  • MysticFoxDE's avatar
    MysticFoxDE
    Copper Contributor

    ancilmohammed 

    Hi Ancil,

     

    I have the same opinion as Dave regarding the inplace upgrade, that makes absolutely no sense and will> 90% not go well either.

     

    Regarding the licenses, however, I have a different opinion than Dave. If you have valid licenses for the 2019 server, you do not need any additional licenses for the intermediate steps. In the case of volume licenses, this is 100% because you also acquire the right of use for the older versions when you purchase the volume licenses. This point is disputed for OEM licenses because MS does not explicitly provide for downgrade rights in the EULA. On the other hand, the MS-EULA has only a very limited legal validity depending on the country.

     

    Regards from Germany

     

    Alex

    • Dave Patrick's avatar
      Dave Patrick
      MVP

       

       

       

      Regarding the licenses, however, I have a different opinion


      I was not commenting on the legality. Legal licensing issues cannot be resolved by anonymous forums users.

       

      The technical part is that you cannot in-place upgrade from or to and evaluation version of windows. You also cannot in-place upgrade from an un-activated windows instance. So regardless of how you obtain them, licenses and activation would have to be part of the intermediate steps.

       

       

      • MysticFoxDE's avatar
        MysticFoxDE
        Copper Contributor

        Dave Patrick

        Hi Dave,

         


        Dave Patrick wrote:
        Legal licensing issues cannot be resolved by anonymous forums users.

        how can I please understand this saying now?

        Hopefully by anonymous you don't mean me.

        Otherwise I would recommend you to google something or look in the Microsoft partner directory. 😉

         

        Regards from Germany

         

        Alexander Fuchs

        IT System Admiral

        IT Technology Senior Evangelist

        (Owner)

        NEXT GENERATION IT SOLUTIONS

         

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