Server 2019: Poor write performance on S2D two node cluster
Hello! I am trying to set up S2D on two node cluster for Hyper converged infrastructure. Unfortunately I observe significant write performance drop if we compare S2D storage with slowest physical...
Thank You about Your comment! I understand, that my lab setup does not meet these requirements, but still I believe that fundamental thinks should work with such a setup too. The main point for me was to check if this tehnology works before invest into new and quite expensive parts.
Anyway, now I have rebuilt my setup using two intel S2600WTF/Y boxes and Intel CPUs. Initially each of them had two 512 GB SSD drives for S2D. I configured S2D with automatic settings successfully. After providing some performance tests I got much better results than earlier. Actually really acceptable results (even up to little more than 200MB/s write speed).
Next I moved some VMs to the S2D and enabled High Availability for them. I provided some crush tests as well and they succeed, all worked great.
BUT then I faced new problems. I wanted to add four new 1 TB SSD drives per each node and extend my pool. I did reset all these drives and connected to servers. 1) First strange thing was, that they automatically were added to my S2D pool even I was previously disabled autopooling (Get-StorageSubSystem Clu* | Set-StorageHealthSetting -Name “System.Storage.PhysicalDisk.AutoPool.Enabled” -Value False). 2) Second and the most important - my SSD tier statistics shows available space only for 670 GB, but I connected 8 x 1TB SSD drives and using mirrored storage it should be able to allocate around 4 TB! I run Optimize-StoragePool and this did not helped. 3) I connected another SSD drive for other purposes and it again automatically got pooled. I tried to remove it from S2D pool, but this also was unsuccessful. The disk stuck into Primordial Pool. Things I did to try to get disk out of pool: $pool = Get-StoragePool S2D* $disk = Get-PhysicalDisk -SerialNumber "XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX"
I physically removed from server the disk that accidentally went into S2D and then stuck in Primordial pool. Then I cleared it on another PC and created new partition. Then put back in cluter server and finally had option to use it without pooling.
But I plan to replace s2d 512 GB ssd driveswith larger ones so I still need to find option how to correctly remove disk from pool.
Actually I was looking for physical disk and storage pools when you got into the bad state, to understand why System.Storage.PhysicalDisk.AutoPool.Enabled property value was not honored. Let me know, if you still face issues with it in future.
Now that you have fixed, the better way of removing the disk from the pool is Remove-PhysicalDisk as you tried earlier, though you have to specify the full FriendlyName of the S2D StoragePool rather than S2d*. Once this succeeds, you will see the CanPool value of the disk to be True.
Let me know, if this doesn't work for you.
Also, if you feel, system is not behaving as you expect, please follow this link and share the zip file with us. We try to collect needed information, so that there is no back and forth :)
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I am trying to set up S2D on two node cluster for Hyper converged infrastructure. Unfortunately I observe significant write performance drop if we compare S2D storage with slowest physical...","body@stringLength":"1727","rawBody":"
Hello!
I am trying to set up S2D on two node cluster for Hyper converged infrastructure. Unfortunately I observe significant write performance drop if we compare S2D storage with slowest physical hard drive performance participating in cluster.
What could cause this?
How to get better results?
My test environment
OS: Windows Server 2019 Datacenter Build 17723.rs5_release.180720-1452
Both nodes are connected directly using one 10 Gbps link for S2D
Each node have 1 Gbps link for management
S2D two node cluster configured with Cache disabled
Node 1
System: Supermicro X9SRH-7F/7TF
CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2620 2.00 GHz (6CPUs)
RAM: 32 GB DDR3
Network: Intel X540-AT2 10 Gbps copper
System drive: Samsung SSD 840 PRO 512 GB
Storage drives: Samsung SSD 850 PRO 512 GB, Samsung SSD 840 PRO 512 GB
Node 2
System: Intel S2600WTT
CPU: Genuine Intel CPU 2.30 GHz (ES) (28 CPUs)
RAM: 64 GB DDR4
Network: Intel X540-AT2 10 Gbps copper
System drive: INTEL SSDSC2BB240G7 240 GB
Storage drives: Samsung SSD 850 PRO 512 GB, Samsung SSD 840 PRO 512 GB
Before enabling S2D I turned off write cache for each SSD drive individually and tested their write performance by copying 30 GB large VHD file. Results were around 130 - 160 MB/s for Samsung SSD 840 PRO drives and around 60 - 70 MB/s for Samsung SSD 850 PRO drives.
After enabling S2D write performance drops to 40 - 44 MB/s (see attachment)
I am trying to set up S2D on two node cluster for Hyper converged infrastructure. Unfortunately I observe significant write performance drop if we compare S2D storage with slowest physical hard drive performance participating in cluster.
What could cause this?
How to get better results?
My test environment
OS: Windows Server 2019 Datacenter Build 17723.rs5_release.180720-1452
Both nodes are connected directly using one 10 Gbps link for S2D
Each node have 1 Gbps link for management
S2D two node cluster configured with Cache disabled
Node 1
System: Supermicro X9SRH-7F/7TF
CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2620 2.00 GHz (6CPUs)
RAM: 32 GB DDR3
Network: Intel X540-AT2 10 Gbps copper
System drive: Samsung SSD 840 PRO 512 GB
Storage drives: Samsung SSD 850 PRO 512 GB, Samsung SSD 840 PRO 512 GB
Node 2
System: Intel S2600WTT
CPU: Genuine Intel CPU 2.30 GHz (ES) (28 CPUs)
RAM: 64 GB DDR4
Network: Intel X540-AT2 10 Gbps copper
System drive: INTEL SSDSC2BB240G7 240 GB
Storage drives: Samsung SSD 850 PRO 512 GB, Samsung SSD 840 PRO 512 GB
Before enabling S2D I turned off write cache for each SSD drive individually and tested their write performance by copying 30 GB large VHD file. Results were around 130 - 160 MB/s for Samsung SSD 840 PRO drives and around 60 - 70 MB/s for Samsung SSD 850 PRO drives.
After enabling S2D write performance drops to 40 - 44 MB/s (see attachment)
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Thank You about Your comment! I understand, that my lab setup does not meet these requirements, but still I believe that fundamental thinks should work with such a setup too. The main point for me was to check if this tehnology works before invest into new and quite expensive parts.
Anyway, now I have rebuilt my setup using two intel S2600WTF/Y boxes and Intel CPUs. Initially each of them had two 512 GB SSD drives for S2D. I configured S2D with automatic settings successfully. After providing some performance tests I got much better results than earlier. Actually really acceptable results (even up to little more than 200MB/s write speed).
Next I moved some VMs to the S2D and enabled High Availability for them. I provided some crush tests as well and they succeed, all worked great.
BUT then I faced new problems. I wanted to add four new 1 TB SSD drives per each node and extend my pool. I did reset all these drives and connected to servers. 1) First strange thing was, that they automatically were added to my S2D pool even I was previously disabled autopooling (Get-StorageSubSystem Clu* | Set-StorageHealthSetting -Name “System.Storage.PhysicalDisk.AutoPool.Enabled” -Value False). 2) Second and the most important - my SSD tier statistics shows available space only for 670 GB, but I connected 8 x 1TB SSD drives and using mirrored storage it should be able to allocate around 4 TB! I run Optimize-StoragePool and this did not helped. 3) I connected another SSD drive for other purposes and it again automatically got pooled. I tried to remove it from S2D pool, but this also was unsuccessful. The disk stuck into Primordial Pool. Things I did to try to get disk out of pool: $pool = Get-StoragePool S2D* $disk = Get-PhysicalDisk -SerialNumber \"XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX\"
Thank You about Your comment! I understand, that my lab setup does not meet these requirements, but still I believe that fundamental thinks should work with such a setup too. The main point for me was to check if this tehnology works before invest into new and quite expensive parts.
Anyway, now I have rebuilt my setup using two intel S2600WTF/Y boxes and Intel CPUs. Initially each of them had two 512 GB SSD drives for S2D. I configured S2D with automatic settings successfully. After providing some performance tests I got much better results than earlier. Actually really acceptable results (even up to little more than 200MB/s write speed).
Next I moved some VMs to the S2D and enabled High Availability for them. I provided some crush tests as well and they succeed, all worked great.
BUT then I faced new problems. I wanted to add four new 1 TB SSD drives per each node and extend my pool. I did reset all these drives and connected to servers. 1) First strange thing was, that they automatically were added to my S2D pool even I was previously disabled autopooling (Get-StorageSubSystem Clu* | Set-StorageHealthSetting -Name “System.Storage.PhysicalDisk.AutoPool.Enabled” -Value False). 2) Second and the most important - my SSD tier statistics shows available space only for 670 GB, but I connected 8 x 1TB SSD drives and using mirrored storage it should be able to allocate around 4 TB! I run Optimize-StoragePool and this did not helped. 3) I connected another SSD drive for other purposes and it again automatically got pooled. I tried to remove it from S2D pool, but this also was unsuccessful. The disk stuck into Primordial Pool. Things I did to try to get disk out of pool: $pool = Get-StoragePool S2D* $disk = Get-PhysicalDisk -SerialNumber \"XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX\"
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Hi ,
Your nodes don’t comply with S2D requirements. Additionally, I would not recommend to measure performance by windows file copying, you’ll find arguments here:
Regarding the storage solution, you can look at virtual SAN vendors. I have a good experience of using Starwind vSAN for 2 servers cluster. The performance is better and no problem with configuration. You can find guide here:
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Thanks for evaluating S2D Clusters on Server 2019.
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This configuration does not meet the fundamental requirement of S2D, as:
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Can you please send the output of following cmdlets:
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1. Get-StoragePool
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2. Get-PhysicalDisk
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~Girdhar
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Hi, Girdhar!
I physically removed from server the disk that accidentally went into S2D and then stuck in Primordial pool. Then I cleared it on another PC and created new partition. Then put back in cluter server and finally had option to use it without pooling.
But I plan to replace s2d 512 GB ssd driveswith larger ones so I still need to find option how to correctly remove disk from pool.
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Hi Uedgars,
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Actually I was looking for physical disk and storage pools when you got into the bad state, to understand why System.Storage.PhysicalDisk.AutoPool.Enabled property value was not honored. Let me know, if you still face issues with it in future.
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Now that you have fixed, the better way of removing the disk from the pool is Remove-PhysicalDisk as you tried earlier, though you have to specify the full FriendlyName of the S2D StoragePool rather than S2d*. Once this succeeds, you will see the CanPool value of the disk to be True.
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Let me know, if this doesn't work for you.
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Also, if you feel, system is not behaving as you expect, please follow this link and share the zip file with us. We try to collect needed information, so that there is no back and forth :)
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Thanks
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Girdhar
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