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Re: Introducing Microsoft Edge Secure Network
The option just appeared in the latest update for me, I will investigate. My understanding is that it will hide my IP address from trackers, however the ad agencies / Google / NSA / MI5.5 are a little more sophisticated. Every browser has components / plugins that reduce its anonymity, the Electronic Frontier Foundation have done a lot of good work here. See https://coveryourtracks.eff.org/ Stever Gibson's utilities are good, and I check our public attack surface regularly, but all browsers send a stupid amount of information every time you request a web page - see http://browserspy.dk/donottrack.php All that information may be useful to "customise the user experience" but do I really need to tell Farcebook my browser doesn't support Silverlight? Most users of the interweb have no concept of just how fast a browser / web server can be if the site doesn't insert all the advertising / tracking cruft. Consider the html5 video tag: How hard can it be? <video width="320" height="240" controls> <source src="movie.mp4" type="video/mp4"> </video> Try loading up a youtub page and view source - damned if I can see a video tagRe: Introducing Microsoft Edge Secure Network
As always, the devil is in the detail. For some time now I have been setting the DNS on every machine I own or fix to Cloudflare, and I use Opera's VPN when I REALLY don't want anyone snooping over my shoulder. No ad platform has a "legitimate interest" in my bank details or health records. However here in the UK and ,I understand, in the US the governments are trying to prohibit end-to-end encryption - the usual "think of the children" line. More importantly, you'll get severe push back from Google et al because they wont be able to track our every click. Stick to your guns, and don't be dissuaded, someone needs to take a stand. I've been reading Brad Smith's "Tools and weapons", and I like what I read. It mostly corresponds to my memories. Its difficult to lie consistently, as various politicians have found out, so I'm inclined to believe what he writes. I hope Brad isn't planning to retire any time soon :-),Re: Introducing Buy now, pay later in Microsoft Edge
StephenDillonWith respect, that's fine for techies like us, but I'm more concerned about Joe / Joanne Public, as I said above "There will always be those ready to take advantage of the financially less-able / suddenly unwaged. Let's not make it seem legitimate." This feature has no place as a built-in function of the browser. And, again as I said above: "Stop fiddling and concentrate on making edge the most standards-compliant, quickest, most secure, most privacy-driven browser available" (I forgot to say, keep checking that Gargle haven't slipped in some privacy busters into the Chromium codebase) Maybe I'm laboring the point, but... https://www.ft.com/content/c4da9b2f-5187-4956-931d-0554d4268d4e https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-59492429 https://www.theguardian.com/global/2022/jan/19/learn-lessons-from-australia-consumer-groups-warn-uk-against-buy-now-pay-later-self-regulationRe: Introducing Buy now, pay later in Microsoft Edge
Let them keep it over there. For our US friends; in the UK we have a number of these bnpl providers, I suspect run by the payday loan sharks who had to find other revenue streams once their 6000% loans were outlawed. Now the government are looking to limit the bnpl industry too. There will always be those ready to take advantage of the financially less-able / suddenly unwaged. Let's not make it seem legitimate.Re: Introducing Buy now, pay later in Microsoft Edge
I have an idea, why not build in a crypto miner into edge, and we can split the profits. Oh wait I think Symantec have the copyright on that stupid idea. Don't worry I'm sure you'll come up with some other unwanted, unnecessary "feature" for us all to complain about, Stop fiddling and concentrate on making edge the most standards-compliant, quickest, most secure, most privacy-driven browser available.Re: Can we please have a way of finding our own feedback
Thanks, I was actually looking for my report on the web page Save As... dialog, wherein if you select "save as web page single file (mhtml)" it doesnt change the file extension, so you end up saving a web archive as [etc].html. Then when the file is opened, the browser shows the page source in html-encoded html...Re: I do like all the privacy features built into Edge.
Its the EU and the Californian government who are pushing this though, despite fierce opposition from the ad companies. Apparently when Microsoft introduced "Do not track" in IE and defaulted to "On", there were howls of protest from Doubleclick et al. Their argument was it should be the users explicit decision to turn it on. Like "We value your privacy: click here to accept all cookies" or spend 10 minutes rejecting all, one by one. Surely, if my browser sends DNT / Sec-GPC there is no need to even display "we value your privacy". Frankly is great that browsers are so fast these days, but EVERY interaction with a web site now, I see "Wvyp" requiring another 10 odd clicks and 30 seconds - its a war of attrition, people are "accepting all" just to clear that B***dy dialog - just like the UAC dialog in Vista. I'm sure if my ex-colleagues see this they'll be amused. I spent 6 years as a dev manager at a company making ad booking software 🙂Re: I do like all the privacy features built into Edge.
Yes, my point is this shouldn't be an extension, it should be standard behaviour. The DNT flag is pretty well universally ignored. I see the W3C are now promoting Global Privacy Control https://globalprivacycontrol.github.io/gpc-spec/ I did some wiresharking, couldnt find a site that responded when asked for the GPC json. Put simply: what is it about "Do not track" / "Do not sell my data" that is so hard to understand?I do like all the privacy features built into Edge.
I have a suggestion: If I turn on "Do Not Track" (which we all know most websites ignore) Edge could automatically pre-fill all the "We value your privacy" dialogs they pop-up before I can even read the page. Since most of them use OneTrust, it should be simple enough to "Reject all". How hard can it be?Some code samples please
I see from the Edge security / permissions screen that it supports WebUSB and serial port access, however I cant find any code samples. Looking around the interweb, the javascript folk say its not possible due to sandboxes etc, which probably was true 10 years ago. More interweb info rot. TIARe: Vertical tabs preview now available in the Canary and Dev channels
William Devereux Its a nice feature, however on my main screen I have the task bar on the left hand side, then Edge has its vertical tabs, and in Edge I'm looking at outlook.com, with a list of emails on the left, so three vertical stacks stuffed against the left. It would be nice to have a little more contrast for the tab stack - just a few pixels margin to the right of the drop shadow. I know contrast has gone out of fashion, and "users expect" flat buttons, text with no indication of a hyperlink etc, but this user is old school. Secondly, when I have a whole bunch of tabs open, sleeping or not, it would be nice to have a "close this tab" button on the address bar, so I don't have to open the stack and find the active tab on the list. Finally, you must check that functions that work when the mouse hovers still work on tablets like Surface, they don't see my finger hovering. BTW If I set the task bar to auto hide, it rolls away left and doesn't come back (I have three screens, so the mouse just goes to the next screen, rather than revealing the task bar) I guess that's a bug with the task bar though.Re: Is there a plan to implement DNS over HTTPS?
geek2point0 I can see that inside an organisation you wouldn't want some users doing DNS lookups that couldn't be seen by admins. Many orgs run DNS internally, as demonstrated by the rather embarrassing bug last week, (https://www.wired.com/story/sigred-windows-dns-flas-wormable/). I don't know if this option is turned off by domain membership - perhaps a question for Microsoft? Elliot Kirk
