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Greg Zygadlo
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DL vs Group vs Yammer vs Teams

Does anyone know of any good blogs/documentation on where/when is the best use for the following

 

Teams

Office 365 Groups

Mail DL

Yammer

One Drive

Sharepoint Team Site

 

We have just migrated over from Google (Yea) and all our Google Docs got migrated to OneDrive, but the sharing capabilities isn't the same and the end users are not happy so I want to put out something to my end user community.

 

Thanks.

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Re: DL vs Group vs Yammer vs Teams

One of the best, though I havent checked if it is updated for Groups and Teams in a while:
http://www.2tolead.com/whitepaper-when-to-use-what-in-office-365/
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Re: DL vs Group vs Yammer vs Teams

Here is a hight level guidance, as far as DL are concerned we belive groups in Outlook provides more value, see this article: https://aka.ms/whyupgradedls

Which tool to use? Depends on your workstyleWhich tool to use? Depends on your workstyle

Re: DL vs Group vs Yammer vs Teams

I reworked some material from MS and used this wording.

 

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Re: DL vs Group vs Yammer vs Teams

Bookmarked this one :)

Re: DL vs Group vs Yammer vs Teams

Thanks for all the good info.  I do have the whitepaper mentioned and still need to read plus, plus those graphics will also help.

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Re: DL vs Group vs Yammer vs Teams

There is too much sprawl and overlap. The average user doesn't know what to use and the seasoned SharePoint admin is constantly trying to catch up with new feature changes. We need a replacement for the typical file share (think OneDrive for Groups) but that really doesn't exist today (please correct me if I am wrong). Office 365 Groups are too elaborate for file sharing and OneDrive for Business is based on an individual users activity. SharePoint libraries do fill the gap but I hate setting up sub sites JUST for file sharing. Anyway, in my opinion, Microsoft should really finish one "platform" then move to the "newest" things. Groups aren't done and already we have Teams which is really close to what we need but again still half way done.

Re: DL vs Group vs Yammer vs Teams

Does not look like they have updated that white paper for Teams or Yammer connected groups yet.

 

This shorter document by another company does have Teams in it but does not reflect Yammer connected groups either. 

 

https://www.arrayasolutions.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Arraya_Microsoft-Collaboration_Whitepaper...

 

-Geoff

Re: DL vs Group vs Yammer vs Teams

I put together an infographic to cover it. A part of it is below, but review the complete infographic.O365 Twitter Post.png

 

 

 

 

Re: DL vs Group vs Yammer vs Teams

 

Matt for your "Outlook" box, I would lead with "Email" and not "Group" since people get confused with the "Office 365 Groups" object in Azure AD, see this diagram as well: https://blogs.office.com/2017/04/06/whats-new-in-office-365-groups-for-april-2017/

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Re: DL vs Group vs Yammer vs Teams

There's a lot to like there, but I think your terminology "Feeds" for Yammer will be confusing.

 

I completely understand and appreciate your desire to differetiate "Outlook Groups" from "Yammer Groups" by not using "Groups" for both.  Unfortunately, the "Feed" concept doesn't work natively in Yammer where those things are actually called "Groups" and where "feeds" such as the Discovery and Following feed on the home page mean something else.

 

 

Re: DL vs Group vs Yammer vs Teams

I'll think about that. The fact that it's more than just email makes calling it "Outlook email" not accurate.

The issue at hand, though, with all due respect, is these are your terms. In fact, your mobile app is, verbatim, "Outlook Groups". If the parlance in the systems were clearer, so too would be the training.

We users are running with your language, even if there aren't enough words in it to correctly describe the entities.

Re: DL vs Group vs Yammer vs Teams

Fair. Personal preference, I guess. Unfortunately Microsoft's tendency to use general words in the language to describe their tools and functions means it's difficult to define these objects separately from similar functions. English lacks the vocabulary to describe all Microsoft suite of products accurately. They need to start their own, I think. XD

Re: DL vs Group vs Yammer vs Teams

Going forward we refer to groups in Outlook, see this recent blog post about adding groups in Outlook to our iOS & Android app: https://blogs.office.com/2017/04/18/introducing-groups-in-outlook-for-mac-ios-and-android/

Re: DL vs Group vs Yammer vs Teams

Also, explain to me how Skype has any interaction with Groups? I've seen none and your graphic doesn't actually show any real functional connection to Office 365 Groups. An article or two would be great to understand that.

Re: DL vs Group vs Yammer vs Teams

Which seems to agree with what I'm saying. I'm not creating "an Outlook email", I'm creating "an Outlook Group", which comes with an inbox, calendar, and the rest of the typical Group apps. Am I missing something?
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Re: DL vs Group vs Yammer vs Teams

Since Office 365 Groups are objects in your global address list, you can initiate an ad-hoc IM or call with all the members using Skype for Business (we demoed this at Ignite 2015).

Re: DL vs Group vs Yammer vs Teams

I can't seem to find any documentation of this online. Outside of the general use of the word "group" to mean an ad-hoc Skype Group that a user makes themselves (which is not an Office 365 Group), the only notable thing I can find is a UserVoice request basically asking for this feature. Can you point me to some documentation that I can use as a source? A video of a demo from Ignite doesn't really cut it.
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