Forum Discussion
External Sharing with Stream or Video
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Typically external videos feature request come in 2 flavors.
1. Pure public / anonymous video - where anyone with a link / embed code can watch the video without logging in.
Idea in the forums for Public / anonymous video: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Microsoft-Stream-Ideas/Public-videos/idc-p/93045#M652
2. Guest users - Where you type in the email of a person you want to share with and they have to login in some way with Org ID or MSA to see a video.
Idea in the forums for guest users: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Microsoft-Stream-Ideas/External-Guests/idc-p/95557#M663
Chad West I'm actually a little surprised they're doing this at all. I can't imagine they want Stream to be anything like YouTube - hosting videos that hundreds of thousands or millions of people might play. Stream seems like it is for collaboration work primarily for recorded meetings and trainings internally. There are so many other services for video hosting externally. Is it possible that the primary reason people want external sharing so badly is because they believe it would be free without ads? Or do people like Stream's face and text search features so much that's why they want to use it for public videos instead of another service. I don't get the appeal of embedding these videos in public sites since any public site would be hosted elsewhere and be perfectly capable of hosting a video file on its own.
mbowgren, you are missing the point. As part of the O365 suite, Stream should be able to share externally with specific people - just like all the other O365 services. My company would like to share videos with our non-employee distributor partners.
A generic guest link would give the experience of YouTube, but those are generally frowned-upon in the enterprise, and are typically disabled.
It's not that hard guys, come on, you can do it!!
It's not a security issue, you already allow to download the *.mp4 file. Just automate the move from Streams to OneDrive. Create a button "Move to OneDrive", we will do the rest.
You don't want to be doing that move click by click, waiting for the download, waiting for the upload, hoping anything crashes everytime with a 1Gb file of a two hours training.
I trust you, give us good news soon.
Q4 2020 Now
There must be some interesting aspects to how they have this all coded if its this hard to make a video public. Maybe its all just "that" secure eh? Probably not, but its nice to dream.
Luca Vitali This is the feature and use case that we need as well. We do a lot of Demo calls with potential clients and I want to record the call to prove the power of Teams, then edit the video, upload a new one and share with specific private people. Hoping the workflow can be updated to a Q2 position as it seems like a permissions cloning similar to Onedrive.
David McKnight, I don't know the differences in the ToS and while I agree both are 3rd party, I have admin privileges in O365 and don't on YouTube and so I have a little more control with Microsoft. YouTube is public where in Microsoft if Stream videos can be allowed externally we can control it a little better.
Jeffrey Allen, it would be interesting to know if the terms of service are substantially different between YouTube and Stream. While Stream appears to host company IP in one's Office 365 tenant, it is still in a third-party environment, and only as protected as much as the ToS provide.
In that Microsoft hosts Microsoft videos in YouTube, they don't appear to be overly concerned. That does not make YOUR concern invalid. We depend on O365 to manage confidential business processes, yet the value for the price makes me somewhat concerned that we also get what we pay for.
Good comments, thanks!
David McKnight, while YouTube is a solution, it now takes company property, if you will, out of the tenant and puts it into a third party non-controlled site. I agree that external sharing should be allowed especially if you record a Teams meeting that has guest members so that they can refer back to or if by chance they miss they can watch it.
- YouTube is A solution; it's just not the ideal solution. Today if you need an anonymous link, you CAN get that in YouTube -- and anyone with that link has access to your video. It does not need to be shared with the world. The problem with this is simply that you have to move the video file and create the appropriate privileges in YouTube along with the anonymous link, which is a set of steps you shouldn't need to take with video that already resides in Stream.
- Totally agree with Jeff Lamb
For example I need to share a recorded video of an internal course to one of our customer. YouTube is not the solution, Stream with external anonymous access is the right tool. mbowgren That is all we are looking for, too. We just need to be able to embed or link in university courses, not to share specifically with a specific, individual external account.
