Azure Sentinel Automation (Preview) - Issue with Permission assignment
Hi @AzureSentinel Team, I believe this is a bug unless there is any reason to do so. At Azure Sentinel Automation (Preview) when tried to assign permission for logic app I am getting the erro...
Perfect. Very same response from your support team as well on this issue. Good to highlight this at the documentation or may have improved from the time the this issue was raised.
There are two main scenarios when managing cross-tenant automation rules: • Automation rule created in the customer tenant is configured to run a playbook located in the service provider tenant. This approach is normally used to protect intellectual property in the playbook. Nothing special is required for this scenario to work. Just grant permissions to the relevant resource group where the playbook is located via Manage playbook permissions menu as explained here. • Automation rule created in the customer tenant is configured to run a playbook located in the customer tenant. Used when there is no need to protect intellectual property. For this scenario to work, permissions to execute the playbook need to be granted to Azure Sentinel in both tenants. In the customer tenant, you grant them via Manage playbook permissions menu as explained here. To grant the relevant permissions to the service provider tenant, you need to include the Azure Security Insights app in your Azure Lighthouse delegation template with the Azure Sentinel Automation Contributor role. The scenario looks like this:
Although being a owner of the azure subscription and adding logic app contributor role to my user id within the customer tenant. I am not able to see the Manage Permission link at the sentinel automation rule. Why cant one edit the permission in this case ??
Do you expect the user to have Azure Sentinel Contributor role other than owner and logic app contributor. ??
Scenario 2: Able to see Manage Permission Link but cannot modify.
With Azure lighthouse after including delegation of Azure Security Insights with Azure Sentinel Contributor role from the service provider tenant I am able to check its permission but not change it, this is acceptable as I am NOT in the service provider tenant and with Azure Lighthouse a user can max have a contributor role.
Thanks all for your inputs. To answer Javier's comments, I want to add that I'm using a Visual Studio subscription. Is this an issue? It is really simple to reproduce the error: I go to "Automation" (on Azure Sentinel tab), then I click on "Create new automation rule". After selecting the options and the Playbook I want to run, I got the error: "Failed to save automation rule. Save the automation rule 'XXX' failed. Error: Caller is missing required playbook triggering permissions on playbook resource '/subscriptions/a1040a9c-a6129-4918-b809-922ee8ccf811/resourceGroups/Azure_Sentinel_name/provide... or Azure Sentinel is missing required permissions to verify the caller has permissions.
If you want to set up a call to go through this, please let me know.
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Hi @AzureSentinel Team,
I believe this is a bug unless there is any reason to do so.
At Azure Sentinel Automation (Preview) when tried to assign permission for logic app I am getting the error below.
Pls Note: Although i am the owner of subscription i am not able to assign the permission whereas only global admin with subscription ownership can do this role assignment.
Saving automation rule 'TEST 1' failed. Error: Caller is missing required playbook triggering permissions on playbook resource '/subscriptions/xxx/resourceGroups/yyy/providers/Microsoft.Logic/workflows/logicapp1', or Azure Sentinel is missing required permissions to verify the caller has permissions
Thanks.
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Javier-Soriano Hi Javier, Yes it is though Azure Lighthouse setup.
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Hi Javier, Yes it is though Azure Lighthouse setup.
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Regards","body@stringLength":"353","rawBody":"Ok, that requires additional permissions. You need to grant Azure Sentinel Automation Contributor permissions to the Azure Security Insights app in the service provider tenant, to the RG where the playbooks are in the customer tenant. So basically you need to include this additional authorization in your Azure Lighthouse delegation.
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Perfect. Very same response from your support team as well on this issue. Good to highlight this at the documentation or may have improved from the time the this issue was raised.
There are two main scenarios when managing cross-tenant automation rules: • Automation rule created in the customer tenant is configured to run a playbook located in the service provider tenant. This approach is normally used to protect intellectual property in the playbook. Nothing special is required for this scenario to work. Just grant permissions to the relevant resource group where the playbook is located via Manage playbook permissions menu as explained here. • Automation rule created in the customer tenant is configured to run a playbook located in the customer tenant. Used when there is no need to protect intellectual property. For this scenario to work, permissions to execute the playbook need to be granted to Azure Sentinel in both tenants. In the customer tenant, you grant them via Manage playbook permissions menu as explained here. To grant the relevant permissions to the service provider tenant, you need to include the Azure Security Insights app in your Azure Lighthouse delegation template with the Azure Sentinel Automation Contributor role. The scenario looks like this:
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Perfect. Very same response from your support team as well on this issue. Good to highlight this at the documentation or may have improved from the time the this issue was raised.
There are two main scenarios when managing cross-tenant automation rules: • Automation rule created in the customer tenant is configured to run a playbook located in the service provider tenant. This approach is normally used to protect intellectual property in the playbook. Nothing special is required for this scenario to work. Just grant permissions to the relevant resource group where the playbook is located via Manage playbook permissions menu as explained here. • Automation rule created in the customer tenant is configured to run a playbook located in the customer tenant. Used when there is no need to protect intellectual property. For this scenario to work, permissions to execute the playbook need to be granted to Azure Sentinel in both tenants. In the customer tenant, you grant them via Manage playbook permissions menu as explained here. To grant the relevant permissions to the service provider tenant, you need to include the Azure Security Insights app in your Azure Lighthouse delegation template with the Azure Sentinel Automation Contributor role. The scenario looks like this:
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Although being a owner of the azure subscription and adding logic app contributor role to my user id within the customer tenant. I am not able to see the Manage Permission link at the sentinel automation rule. Why cant one edit the permission in this case ??
Do you expect the user to have Azure Sentinel Contributor role other than owner and logic app contributor. ??
Scenario 2: Able to see Manage Permission Link but cannot modify.
With Azure lighthouse after including delegation of Azure Security Insights with Azure Sentinel Contributor role from the service provider tenant I am able to check its permission but not change it, this is acceptable as I am NOT in the service provider tenant and with Azure Lighthouse a user can max have a contributor role.
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For scenario #2, azure security insights app must have Azure Sentinel Automation Contributor (not Azure Sentinel Contributor).","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2021-06-14T13:46:43.848-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-06-14T13:46:43.848-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":12259},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:microsoft-sentinel/category:microsoft-security/category:products-services/category:communities/community:gxcuf89792board:MicrosoftSentinel/message:2346059/message:2446286","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[{"__typename":"MessageEdge","cursor":"MjUuMXwyLjF8aXwxfDEzMjowfGludCwyNDQ3NDU5LDI0NDc0NTk","node":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:2447459"}}]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2447459":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2447459","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2447459":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:516158"},"id":"message:2447459","revisionNum":1,"uid":2447459,"depth":8,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:MicrosoftSentinel"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:2446286"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2346059"},"subject":"Re: Azure Sentinel Automation (Preview) - Issue with Permission assignment","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2447459"},"body":"Adding more details to those scenarios.
Scenario #1 I never mentioned I am the owner through Azure Lighthouse instead I am the guest user existing in the primary tenant.
Scenario 2. Already assigned the Azure Sentinel Automation Contributor through Azure Lighthouse template deployment as stated earlier in my message.
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If you want to set up a call to go through this, please let me know.
Regards.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2021-06-14T08:57:49.060-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-06-14T08:57:49.060-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":12279},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:microsoft-sentinel/category:microsoft-security/category:products-services/category:communities/community:gxcuf89792board:MicrosoftSentinel/message:2346059/message:2445510","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[{"__typename":"MessageEdge","cursor":"MjUuMXwyLjF8aXwxfDEzMjowfGludCwyNDQ2MzA1LDI0NDYzMDU","node":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:2446305"}}]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2446305":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2446305","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2446305":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:66621"},"id":"message:2446305","revisionNum":1,"uid":2446305,"depth":8,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:MicrosoftSentinel"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:2445510"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2346059"},"subject":"Re: Azure Sentinel Automation (Preview) - Issue with Permission assignment","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2446305"},"body":"Are you also working in a Lighthouse setup or in a single AAD tenant setup? if you're working in a single tenant, these instructions should work: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/sentinel/tutorial-respond-threats-playbook#respond-to-incidents
For the multi-tenant scenario, we have now added the proper instructions here: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/sentinel/automate-incident-handling-with-automation-rules#permissions-in-a-multi-tenant-architecture","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-06-14T13:49:19.503-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-06-14T13:49:19.503-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":12264},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:microsoft-sentinel/category:microsoft-security/category:products-services/category:communities/community:gxcuf89792board:MicrosoftSentinel/message:2346059/message:2446305","customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-shared/client/components/common/Pager/PagerLoadMore-1744410800659":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-shared/client/components/common/Pager/PagerLoadMore-1744410800659","value":{"loadMore":"Show More"},"localOverride":false}}}},"page":"/forums/ForumMessagePage/ForumMessagePage","query":{"boardId":"microsoftsentinel","messageSubject":"azure-sentinel-automation-preview---issue-with-permission-assignment","messageId":"2346059","replyId":"2444910"},"buildId":"HEhyUrv5OXNBIbfCLaOrw","runtimeConfig":{"buildInformationVisible":false,"logLevelApp":"info","logLevelMetrics":"info","openTelemetryClientEnabled":false,"openTelemetryConfigName":"o365","openTelemetryServiceVersion":"25.1.0","openTelemetryUniverse":"prod","openTelemetryCollector":"http://localhost:4318","openTelemetryRouteChangeAllowedTime":"5000","apolloDevToolsEnabled":false,"inboxMuteWipFeatureEnabled":false},"isFallback":false,"isExperimentalCompile":false,"dynamicIds":["./components/seo/QAPageSchema/QAPageSchema.tsx","./components/community/Navbar/NavbarWidget.tsx","./components/community/Breadcrumb/BreadcrumbWidget.tsx","./components/customComponent/CustomComponent/CustomComponent.tsx","./components/messages/TopicWithThreadedReplyListWidget/TopicWithThreadedReplyListWidget.tsx","./components/external/components/ExternalComponent.tsx","./components/messages/MessageView/MessageViewStandard/MessageViewStandard.tsx","../shared/client/components/common/List/UnstyledList/UnstyledList.tsx","./components/messages/MessageView/MessageView.tsx","../shared/client/components/common/Pager/PagerLoadMore/PagerLoadMore.tsx"],"appGip":true,"scriptLoader":[{"id":"analytics","src":"https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/s/gxcuf89792/pagescripts/1730819800000/analytics.js?page.id=ForumReplyPage&entity.id=board%3Amicrosoftsentinel&entity.id=message%3A2444910","strategy":"afterInteractive"}]}