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MDATP Integration - Unsanctioned Apps - Allow for some users?
Hi,
I've reviewed the documentation @ https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/cloud-app-security/governance-discovery in relation to blocking unsanctioned apps - specifically using MDATP on Win10 endpoints.
The documentation doesn't mention anything about governance when using MDATP - Is the functionality similar to the integration with Zscaler and iBoss, where once an app is tagged as unsanctioned it is blocked on the endpoint for all users?
Is there any way to provide greater granularity to the process - ie allow an app for some users and not for others or is it a binary choice for the entire organisation?
Thanks
Paul
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You can find the needed info here: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/cloud-app-security/mde-integration
Regarding the granular controls - this is not yet supported and is pending user granularity capabilities in MDE.
We will expose parity with MDE indicators in MCAS by allowing scoping blocks based of device groups.
Boris
- Are there any updates regarding this?
Thanks, Boris. This is great news as spent most of the afternoon in vein trying to find any granular controls for unsanctioned apps. Do you know specifically when this will be arriving. Is there a preview we can signup for?
Boris_Kacevich - That's wonderful news. Looking forward to it. Many thanks.
Hi PJR_CDF KrisDeb Dean_Gross,
The feature for blocking MCAS unsanctioned apps by leveraging MDATP is now in public preview and can be easily enabled in your tenants. In the following docs https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/cloud-app-security/wdatp-integration, you'll find more details about it. Please contact me directly with any question you might have.
Re scope of control, currently an app will be blocked globally, down the road we will be adding more granular controls, to create a more focused blocking policies.
Thanks,
Danny.
Danny Kadyshevitch hi Danny, have there been any updates in regards to having this functionality in Microsoft Defender for Cloud Apps? Is it still planned or not a priority anymore? Has it already been out and I am unable to find it?
- I did the tests, it's working, wow, respect. Thank you.
KrisDeb I was just curious how you were successful in getting it working with more granular control of the 'Unsanctioned App'? It would be nice to have a 'Exclude' from the Unsanctioned App so certain end users can still use the app. If not, what other ways is this possible?
You said "down the road we will be adding more granular controls". Is there a public roadmap for this feature? I do not see anything in the Microsoft 365 Roadmap outside of the existing unsanctioned app filtering. Any information would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Bill
Hi Bill Brennan,
This feature is included in our Q1CY20 roadmap which was not yet published.
I will be able to provide more details on timelines soon.
Thanks,
Danny.
PJR_CDF when you create a Policy in MCAS, you can apply a Filter so that the scope of the policy is limited to a Group of users
- Please note that this is applicable only for app discovery alerts, and not for the controls provided by ATP, Danny.
Thanks Dean_Gross
I can see how you can scope/filter some policy types to specific users and groups, but the exact scenario I am looking for as an example is, say I have a group of users I want to allow access to Jira for and block for all other users.
If I tag Jira as an unsanctioned app in the Cloud app catalog, I assume this blocks it for all users.
How can I create a policy to block for all users except a specific group?
If I search the cloud app catalog for atlassian Jira and choose "create policy from search" to scope the policy to Jira specifically, the criteria you can choose from to build your filter within the policy doesn't include the ability to add user or group scoping filters as shown in the attached screen grab.
I cant see that scoping sanctioned and unsanctioned apps per user/group is possible in this manner
If I create an access control policy I can scope the policy to specific users but the apps I can choose from are only the apps I have onboarded to Azure AD, not the entire list of apps from the cloud app catalog.
Thanks
Paul
- That's the reason I've put on hold Cloud App Security project because of no simple way to control the Cloud apps via ATP. All I can do is to "discover the Shadow IT" but I have almost no control over it. I don't use expensive firewalls, I'm cloud-only and so my customers. Yes, I know about Conditional Access and 3rd party integration but I couldn't find anything to simply click 3 dots and select "block" after I received the alert.
