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Apr 17, 2020

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Azure MFA using NPS without local domain?

Hi, I have a site where I want to protect the VPN service using (RADIUS) and Azure MFA.

The site currently doesn't have a local active directory domain controller. The users connecting to the VPN are Azure AD users (P1).
I'm hoping not to need to set up a local domain controller, but just keep the NPS server in a workgroup. Is this possible?

Maggan Wåhlin
Apr 05, 2019
Ian Moran

This is a bug, which I among others have reported to Microsoft. It is being fixed as I write this :-)

See this link:
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_sharepoint-mso_win10-mso_o365b/document-library-approval-status-column-blank-not/2bea9ab0-ca92-46dc-b0f3-5f757d496b80

4 Replies

Thijs Lecomte
Bronze Contributor
Apr 18, 2020
What kind of VPN provider are you using.

There are a lot of VPN providers that have native authentication to Azure AD.
Check out this Reddit article for some examples: https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/db05ih/vpn_with_azure_ad_authentication/
- JayBeeFinalBeta
  Copper Contributor
  Apr 18, 2020
  Thijs Lecomte That's a good suggestion. I did look at that, unfortunately, my hardware firewall doens't support it and I need to resort to RADIUS.
Moe_Kinani
Bronze Contributor
Apr 18, 2020
Hi Jay,

Not possible with NPS, I actually used the NPS extension for Azure P2S last year, you don’t need to have MFA server but you must have Local domain to do the authentication part.

You may have to look for different Radius setup like DUO for instance!

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/active-directory/authentication/howto-mfa-nps-extension
- JayBeeFinalBeta
  Copper Contributor
  Apr 18, 2020
  Moe_Kinani Fair enough, I've just implemented an NPS server with the Extension (leaning on a local AD too). I like DUO very much, it can do things MS should have done out of the box a long time ago (like easy RDP MFA). But the idea is to have everything using the same authentication (and I'm now using SAML to AzureAD on all webservices)

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There are a lot of VPN providers that have native authentication to Azure AD.
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Thijs Lecomte That's a good suggestion. I did look at that, unfortunately, my hardware firewall doens't support it and I need to resort to RADIUS.

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Not possible with NPS, I actually used the NPS extension for Azure P2S last year, you don’t need to have MFA server but you must have Local domain to do the authentication part.

You may have to look for different Radius setup like DUO for instance!

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Moe_Kinani Fair enough, I've just implemented an NPS server with the Extension (leaning on a local AD too). I like DUO very much, it can do things MS should have done out of the box a long time ago (like easy RDP MFA). But the idea is to have everything using the same authentication (and I'm now using SAML to AzureAD on all webservices)

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