Forum Discussion
Champions Management Platform: Events vs. Tournaments
- Feb 04, 2022
LisaJo48 - thanks for the questions! Responses below in blue!
- For Tournaments,
- So Tournaments are not for the champions? I thought they were another means through which champions could get points, along with Events.
Correct, tournaments are not meant for the Champions. We look at Tournaments as ideas and perhaps adoption themes that the Champions would curate, to then be posted as Tournaments for users in the organization. The Tournament is really meant for organization users to come to, be inspired to learn more, and gamify the experience to make it fun! - Two lists, ToT User Actions and User Actions have the same columns in them. What is the difference between them and how are they to be used?
I'm not sure what ToT User Action list you may be referring to. There should not have been a list with that name created. There are other tournament specific lists too like Tournament Actions and Tournaments that capture the actual steps of a tournament. The User Actions list is used for reporting the actions that users take as part of the tournaments, and then there are a few other Tournament lists created, outlined here.
- So Tournaments are not for the champions? I thought they were another means through which champions could get points, along with Events.
- For Events,
- What does is the "Count" column in the Events Track List for and what does it do?
Count here is the actual point value for the record. It would be the event type point value x the number of events the champion logged completed. Which is why you may see a higher count than the strait point value (assume I completed and logged 3 office hours done for a record - 3 x point value = count) - How is the Actions List list connected to the Events list, or is it? My perception is that the items in the Actions List are the tasks to be completed, for/with a particular event, in order to earn points, however, I'm not seeing a reference to the Events List in the Actions List (in the same manner as there's a link between the ToT User Actions list and the Tournaments lists). So I'm not sure I understand how/if they connect and how they work together or how to use them if they are not connected.
These two are not connected. At this time we are unable to separate out the lists into different directories to help easily clarify ToT vs Champion lists (naming standards we could do a better job of and will add that into our dev lists!). So for these, Action lists is for Tournament of Teams actions, specifically sample actions we introduce to get you started. Events List is the list specifically for Champions and events that are promoted to them for recording / logging as part of their activities.
- What does is the "Count" column in the Events Track List for and what does it do?
- Is it possible to change the column headers shown when you click on the Add Members tile in the app? For my company, Region and Country are not applicable. We'd like those to be "Company" and "Division" instead. I see no need to change the underlying column names in the lists, just what is visible to the end-user/champion when they are submitting the name of a new champion.
From the default installation - no. The column names are required to stay the same with the standard deployment. Likewise, there is currently no ability to change the field names from the Add Member screen.
You can absolutely customize any part of the solution though via modifying the code. We publish the entire code via the GitHub Repository so if you wanted to make column or UI changes you could. You would then just need to repackage the application and deploy with your custom changes.
Customization Overview
Thanks for the questions - from it I can also take away some feedback in improving our solution with the following additions to our feature logs to work on:
- Clearer list names and naming standards
- Ability to modify column or direct UI elements related to Champion nomination captures
Thanks for giving us the opportunity to inspire and for the work here, I've added the above to our teams backlog to discuss and if you have other questions related to my responses above, please reply back and let me know!
/Josh
- For Tournaments,
Thank you SO much. This was very helpful. I will likely have more questions... 🤔
For some reason, this one is hard to sink into my brain. In your list of 'To Do's, please include some written documentation and/or tutorials. Your answer to me was the most I have found! Also, I am so grateful that you are looking into being able to change, at least, the frontend UI labeling. We are deploying it as is so it will be important that we can make a change like that (asap) without having to reinstall.
I do have one subjective question I could use some input for. We were planning to only make it available to Champions...for champions to excel in the apps and then act as mentors. We weren't planning to make it available to everyone; we don't have sufficient support to manage the influx. So, with that in mind, can you think of a use case for the Tournaments if they are only available to champions? I'm curious what you might envision. Thanks!
LisaJo48 - no worries at all, always happy to discuss! Thanks for the great feedback and questions!
On the Tournament of Teams - so a few things. First, that component is absolutely optional to deploy. On first deployment of Champion Management Platform the underlying lists, etc will not be created. It's only on the ask from and admin to deploy Tournament of Teams that those resources would get deployed. So, there may be times where you want to hold on deployment of Tournament of Teams until like you mentioned, ready to use for larger organizations.
Perhaps some use case could be local tournaments (really - more just targeted tournaments) for the Champions among one another. We see most all use the events and record event for Champion learning/tracking ... but for elevated learning there is no reason you couldn't target a tournament at first just to the Champion community. In the current release just remember only one Tournament can be active at a time, so if you had one going just for them, you'd need to wait for it to finish before loading another one up.
We are looking at expanding that to support multiple tournaments down the line, as well as better awareness driving from Champion work to promotion of Tournament for said work out to the right end user audience.
/Josh
- CarleneAFeb 10, 2022Copper ContributorJoshLeporati, I too have been looking for documentation on the Champions Platform and how to utilze it from a starting place after IT installs the platform. What you have above is the most information I have found helpful so far. Is there a way that we could have an open training on setting it up or a more detailed "how to" somewhere? I have looked and haven't found it.
- JoshLeporatiFeb 10, 2022
Community Manager
CarleneA, absolutely! We are working on some additional materials to help with this post deployment, into now using and expanding the solution materials! Also feel free to reach out directly in the interim to help with any questions over DM.
When those materials are ready, I'll be sure to update with a blog post here in the community!
/Josh