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Copper Contributor

Jun 16, 2021

Why does a DC still tries to use an old gMSA that is no longer is configured in the portal?

Why does a DC still tries to use an old gMSA that is no longer is configured in the portal? I initially use account GMSA2 and configure it the portal, a Sensor was installed..now I have added GMSA1 ...

EliOfek

Microsoft

Jun 16, 2021

The credentials are cached only for a few minutes...
Did you make sure to delete the old credentials from the portal? they do not appear there any more ?
If you stop both sensor services on the machine, does the old credentials stopped being used (to make sure it's actually the sensor that is using them and not something else...)

aaaaaaaanonymous

Copper Contributor

Jun 16, 2021

Yep..remove from portal, delete from Active Directory.
Perhaps I need to stop the sensor or restart it and see.

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does a DC still tries to use an old gMSA that is no longer is configured in the portal?","id":"message:2452133","revisionNum":1,"repliesCount":4,"author":{"__ref":"User:user:278184"},"depth":0,"hasGivenKudo":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:AzureAdvancedThreatProtection"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2452133"},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2452133"},"body@stripHtml({\"truncateLength\":200})":" Why does a DC still tries to use an old gMSA that is no longer is configured in the portal? I initially use account GMSA2 and configure it the portal, a Sensor was installed..now I have added GMSA1 ...","body@stringLength":"628","rawBody":"

Why does a DC still tries to use an old gMSA that is no longer is configured in the portal?

I initially use account GMSA2 and configure it the portal, a Sensor was installed..now I have added GMSA1 to the portal and remove GMSA2 from the portal.

It appears the DCs are using GMSA1 now and connected fine to the portal but they do still gives the error about GMSA2. It has been a few weeks passed and still the DC keeps coming up with error \"An attempt to fetch the password of a group managed service account failed\" for GMSA2.

Is GMSA2 cached or something? How do I stop this error from occuring?

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Perhaps I need to stop the sensor or restart it and see.","body@stringLength":"116","rawBody":"Yep..remove from portal, delete from Active Directory.
Perhaps I need to stop the sensor or restart it and 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Did you make sure to delete the old credentials from the portal? they do not appear there any more ?
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Did you make sure to delete the old credentials from the portal? they do not appear there any more ?
If you stop both sensor services on the machine, does the old credentials stopped being used (to make sure it's actually the sensor that is using them and not something 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Just to close this off. It was just an open Heatlh Alert that never was closed. Once manually closed it is all good.
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