Hi smart people! We are considering using Azure AD ImmutableID as our global ImmutableID for other projects. Is it possible to use ADConnect to write the Azure ImmutableID back to an extensionattrib...
First - How to writeback Immutable ID to an Extension Attribute.
Second - ObjectID of cloud Accounts.
In Order to complete the first task,
Create and Outbound rule for AD connector that must map source anchor to extension attribute, below mentioned is an example,
Add-ADSyncAttributeFlowMapping `
-SynchronizationRule $syncRule[0] `
-Source @('sourceAnchor') `
-Destination 'msDS-cloudExtensionAttribute10' `
-FlowType 'Direct' `
-ValueMergeType 'Update' `
-OutVariable syncRule
Once the rule is created run a sync and you will find the extension attribute populated with source anchor.
For the second query, ObjectID is an attribute that belongs to Object Class and is a mandate attribute that will be populated for all the objects. (Synced or Cloud)
To check about the Object class you can run the below mentioned command on AzureAD powershell.
Great question and some interesting responses. Please let me share some friendly advice from my own experiences working with customers.
Yes, AAD C is a cutdown version of the MIM/FIM sync engine, BUT, please try and avoid adding custom rules. Custom rules adds complexity which can come back and haunt you when the time comes to upgrade.
In this scenario using mS-DS-ConsistencyGuid as the source anchor for both your on-prem applications and Azure AD might be the best option.
The big advantage of using mS-DS-ConsistencyGuid rather than GUID, is it’s writable. So, if you do need to cater for users moving between forests, it’s a simple process of copying the value between objects.
With regards to cloud accounts, it’s a little tricky as you need the object written back to create an on-prem “shadow” account.
Another option might be updating the application authentication end-points to support Azure AD or using Azure application proxies.
Thanks for sharing your experience. I am sharing my thought process.
Sync rules are not complicated if we keep a fair documentation. In fact custom sync rules are available to provide you the privilege so you can use any of the attributes.
In our discussion, we are not making any change , infact we are just copying the value from one attribute to another.
Regarding “ms-DS-ConsistencyGuid” ; If we talk about the default behavior of enabling “ms-DS-ConsistencyGuid” as source anchor, the ObjectID is written back to this attribute.
Feature of using “ms-DS-ConsistencyGuid” was introduced to enhance the administrative scope of managing source anchor.
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Hi smart people!
We are considering using Azure AD ImmutableID as our global ImmutableID for other projects. Is it possible to use ADConnect to write the Azure ImmutableID back to an extensionattribute in local AD? I understand there are scripts to generate Immutable from GUID. Not those.
To add to that, cloud only accounts have nothing in the ImmutableID field. Is it OK to then somehow generate the attribute from Azure ObjectID? Or we may get a conflict eventually?
Thanks in advance
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Hi smart people!
We are considering using Azure AD ImmutableID as our global ImmutableID for other projects. Is it possible to use ADConnect to write the Azure ImmutableID back to an extensionattribute in local AD? I understand there are scripts to generate Immutable from GUID. Not those.
To add to that, cloud only accounts have nothing in the ImmutableID field. Is it OK to then somehow generate the attribute from Azure ObjectID? Or we may get a conflict eventually?
Thanks in advance
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Hello,
Thanks for sharing your experience. I am sharing my thought process.
Sync rules are not complicated if we keep a fair documentation. In fact custom sync rules are available to provide you the privilege so you can use any of the attributes.
In our discussion, we are not making any change , infact we are just copying the value from one attribute to another.
Regarding “ms-DS-ConsistencyGuid” ; If we talk about the default behavior of enabling “ms-DS-ConsistencyGuid” as source anchor, the ObjectID is written back to this attribute.
Feature of using “ms-DS-ConsistencyGuid” was introduced to enhance the administrative scope of managing source anchor.
Regards, Rishabh
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Hello,
Thanks for sharing your experience. I am sharing my thought process.
Sync rules are not complicated if we keep a fair documentation. In fact custom sync rules are available to provide you the privilege so you can use any of the attributes.
In our discussion, we are not making any change , infact we are just copying the value from one attribute to another.
Regarding “ms-DS-ConsistencyGuid” ; If we talk about the default behavior of enabling “ms-DS-ConsistencyGuid” as source anchor, the ObjectID is written back to this attribute.
Feature of using “ms-DS-ConsistencyGuid” was introduced to enhance the administrative scope of managing source anchor.
Regards, Rishabh
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Hello Charles,
There are two different queries in your request.
First - How to writeback Immutable ID to an Extension Attribute.
Second - ObjectID of cloud Accounts.
In Order to complete the first task,
Create and Outbound rule for AD connector that must map source anchor to extension attribute, below mentioned is an example,
Add-ADSyncAttributeFlowMapping `
-SynchronizationRule $syncRule[0] `
-Source @('sourceAnchor') `
-Destination 'msDS-cloudExtensionAttribute10' `
-FlowType 'Direct' `
-ValueMergeType 'Update' `
-OutVariable syncRule
Once the rule is created run a sync and you will find the extension attribute populated with source anchor.
For the second query, ObjectID is an attribute that belongs to Object Class and is a mandate attribute that will be populated for all the objects. (Synced or Cloud)
To check about the Object class you can run the below mentioned command on AzureAD powershell.
Get-AzureADUser | Get-Member
Let me know if you have any query.
Regards,
Rishabh
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Hello,
Great question and some interesting responses. Please let me share some friendly advice from my own experiences working with customers.
Yes, AAD C is a cutdown version of the MIM/FIM sync engine, BUT, please try and avoid adding custom rules. Custom rules adds complexity which can come back and haunt you when the time comes to upgrade.
In this scenario using mS-DS-ConsistencyGuid as the source anchor for both your on-prem applications and Azure AD might be the best option.
The big advantage of using mS-DS-ConsistencyGuid rather than GUID, is it’s writable. So, if you do need to cater for users moving between forests, it’s a simple process of copying the value between objects.
With regards to cloud accounts, it’s a little tricky as you need the object written back to create an on-prem “shadow” account.
Another option might be updating the application authentication end-points to support Azure AD or using Azure application proxies.
Great question and some interesting responses. Please let me share some friendly advice from my own experiences working with customers.
Yes, AAD C is a cutdown version of the MIM/FIM sync engine, BUT, please try and avoid adding custom rules. Custom rules adds complexity which can come back and haunt you when the time comes to upgrade.
In this scenario using mS-DS-ConsistencyGuid as the source anchor for both your on-prem applications and Azure AD might be the best option.
The big advantage of using mS-DS-ConsistencyGuid rather than GUID, is it’s writable. So, if you do need to cater for users moving between forests, it’s a simple process of copying the value between objects.
With regards to cloud accounts, it’s a little tricky as you need the object written back to create an on-prem “shadow” account.
Another option might be updating the application authentication end-points to support Azure AD or using Azure application proxies.
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