Jun 23 2016 08:35 AM
You may think: Proof! Microsoft has lost confidence in Yammer. This is not at all correct. When you look at the use-case of Yammer vs. Lithium (the platform used for this community) there are a couple of key reasons for moving this community support site away from Yammer.
Yammer is a platform for Enterprise Social Neworking within an organization (and extending to that org's partners). It was not meant to handle this type of public social platform supporting multiple millions of users. Also, the requirement that you log in before you can see or search posts was a limitation of Yammer for this use-case.
Yammer continues to be Microsoft's Enterprise Social Network. I applaud Microsoft for shifting platforms to serve users better, knowing they'd be taking the inevitable "Yammer is dead" backlash.
Jun 23 2016 11:33 AM
In a nutshell, yes. I think Microsoft is finally recognizing that other solutions may be a better fit for public internet-facing needs, and that they'll increase the level of participation if they reduce the technology barriers.
Jul 08 2016 06:48 AM
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Jul 13 2016 11:26 AM - edited Jul 13 2016 11:27 AM
I'm thrilled to be part of the new Office 365 Network!! The new Network has some huge advantages:
There's a lot more, but these are the things I'm most excited about!
Jul 15 2016 09:32 AM
Dan, I get the requirements, what I don't get is the need to throw away something that thousands (10's of thousands actuall) of people are actively participating in. Why not make Yammer work better for everyone rather than starting again. Inevitably your customers are going to question the wisdom of committing to a product that might get sidelined by the latest idea. This is the "old" Microsoft, not the "new" that we were liking.
If Yammer is too limiting, fix it!
Jul 15 2016 09:43 AM
I rely on the O365 Yammer network and love it. Yammer is searchable and I do not understand why Microsoft would move away from using their own product. It doesn't send a good message to existing customers.
Jul 15 2016 09:50 AM
Just blogged on this since the new network has just gone into Public Preview.
The New Office 365 Community & Why Microsoft is Not Using Yammer for It
Jul 15 2016 09:57 AM
Agree with @Julian Knight and @Janice Dilworth :
* WHY not improve Yammer to allow an External Yammer Network to allow READ ONLY access to non-member to allow search engine to crawl and make result visible in search engine ? or anyone read the content without any sign-in ?
* or WHY not allowing someone to create a yammer account using his/her yahoo, google, ... email address, then join the network and/or relay on Yahoo, Google, facebook as identity provider to reuse identity people already have on internet/public part
Lithium or not Lithium, I just feel we are going back to the future : in 2013 and Sharepoint Social features with badging system (that work well by the way)
Jul 15 2016 10:02 AM
I blogged my response here.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/microsoft-office-365-community-moving-tom-kretzmer-mvp-
Jul 15 2016 10:05 AM
Hello again Ms. Moneypenny :) from SPYAM to ITNETWORKPRO to here, we find you wherever ;) Besides letting you know I am the "first like" in the post (if it does not already show that, dang I need to review this more ...) I also want to check out my other issue about sharing Rich text stuff so sorry I am sort of using my fan mail to do so .
function likemyfrontend (defitem, butIalso) { var iLikeIt = "I like my front end "; var butalso = "but "; alert (iLikeIt + defitem + butalso + buttIalso); } // did this work?
OMG! looky its code!
Thanks and y'all may return to your regularly scheduled "relevant" feeds :)
Jul 15 2016 10:35 AM
In your blog you mentioned integration with O365 Groups...it wasn't clear if you meant Yammer integration with O365 Groups? If so that sounds like great news!
Jul 15 2016 10:49 AM
Yes - Yammer will soon integrate into Office 365 Groups. We'll post updates to this site as soon as we can.
Jul 15 2016 10:51 AM - edited Jul 15 2016 10:56 AM
Yes Suzaane - I think its been poorly communicated but Yammer is under the Office 365 Groups construct, so the services you see there, such as group membership managed in O365 and being able to access to all the other services in Groups, are all part of roadmap. Sooner rather than later :)
Jul 15 2016 10:55 AM
Great to see you here @Ralph Rivas and honored that I have such loyal fans, amd glad you enjoyed the blog post and playing with the new features in this community :)
https://www.yammer.com/spyam will continue as an independent community as its not sponsored by MSFT.
Jul 15 2016 10:55 AM
Ah, but Yammer IS dead. And it's not because Microsoft moved the YCN to the Office 365 Network and then will move the kit and kaboodle here. It's because Microsoft since purchasing Yammer has made next to ZERO real improvements to it. You know what I mean, I'm not talking about minor UI tweaks.
This support site has moved away from Yammer because Yammer never evolved and grew after being acquired by Microsoft.
Jul 15 2016 11:06 AM
@Janice Dilworth give the search capability in this network a spin. Let us know what you think, we definitely want to help people find all of the goodness that this community provides.
Jul 15 2016 11:08 AM
Jul 15 2016 11:11 AM
Does this product is dead or alive was maybe a question when new versions was realeased every 3 years... But now these products are just moving faster. Are we still using SharePoint backend or not? Yammer feed backend or not? Exchange Server backend or not? I don't care cause I'm still using Outlook as a client and I don't have to change my habits if it fits my business needs.
Yammer is a great tool when it fits the business requirements. Let's move and try different things even if we will fail... Fail fast ;)
The Product reference it more a time mark of a set of features. Some part of Yammer, like parts of the corporate graph will stay alive for a long time and probably a new product or a new service will be built on top of it.
Yammer is still good and used in Office 365 as a comment aggregator between services/Applications and these content are already part of the Office Graph.
I was not really efficient in the Yammer network cause I was not capable to follow efficiently a multichannel conversation. Yammer is good when you have only few groups and Network to follow. I'm excited to see how this new portal will make me more efficient. I'm totally agree with @Dan Holme ;)