06-23-2016 08:35 AM
06-23-2016 08:35 AM
You may think: Proof! Microsoft has lost confidence in Yammer. This is not at all correct. When you look at the use-case of Yammer vs. Lithium (the platform used for this community) there are a couple of key reasons for moving this community support site away from Yammer.
Yammer is a platform for Enterprise Social Neworking within an organization (and extending to that org's partners). It was not meant to handle this type of public social platform supporting multiple millions of users. Also, the requirement that you log in before you can see or search posts was a limitation of Yammer for this use-case.
Yammer continues to be Microsoft's Enterprise Social Network. I applaud Microsoft for shifting platforms to serve users better, knowing they'd be taking the inevitable "Yammer is dead" backlash.
07-26-2016 08:21 AM
I get why the change was made to make this available to more users without the administrative challenges of an invite-only scenario. However, this UI makes no sense to me, and the change communication for this new platform is weak (unless it hasn't happened yet, and that's what is meant by "preview").
I have to think that "Yammer Bugs" is one of the most engaged groups in the Office 365 Network, but I see nothing like that here. If those posts are going to be housed in one big "Yammer" group, expect that any other posts will be pushed down whenever there's a major bug.
There's also too much clicking and scrolling compared to Yammer... and everything is blue.
07-26-2016 09:37 AM
07-27-2016 10:41 AM - edited 07-27-2016 12:27 PM
Thanks Dennis - swatted that one! Typo queen status regained unfortunately... :)
Also thanks @Boris Kapitanovic yes, some people didn't like the shouting but I also thought it was necessary :)
Posted a longer follow up and perspectives also (let me know if you spot anything there!) - most valuable part is the comments from folks though - really great to hear your thoughts.
07-27-2016 12:59 PM
07-27-2016 08:07 PM
@Naomi Moneypenny - great follow up post, i like how you decomposed the issues, thanks for sharing your views!
07-28-2016 08:57 AM
Hey Diane, you can do this in a number of places.
Hope that helps!
07-28-2016 12:01 PM
@Diane Kennedy wrote:
It is really HARD to find MY CONVERSATIONS in this platform. Miss Inbox and/or Profile having a list of my convos. How do I know if people replied to my comment? This feels a lot like an old-style BBS with prettier branding. :\
This is really great feedback and put very simply. I know @Michael Holste gave you the technical answer of how to do this, but I think as a general theme this is such a critical aspect of interaction in our community. Was just meeting with my team and discussing this exact statement, making sure it is easy to continue a conversation, go further with a conversation, not just a one hit wonder "found my answer, moving on". Thanks for this.
08-01-2016 08:20 AM
I do not disagree with you with the following question. I am sincerely curious ....
How does this network give you more accessibility than Yammer?
08-01-2016 08:27 AM
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08-04-2016 03:44 AM - edited 08-04-2016 07:41 AM
The strategy of having one collaborative platform for enterprise collaboration and another for public collaboration seems to me to be flawed? People just want one tool to collaborate, which is what made email so successful.
It would have been better to take the best of breed collaboration tool, ie Yammer, and add support for public collaboration in those networks that need it. Then you'd have a killer tool.
I'm trying to keep an open mind with this new platform, but it's already irrating me with basic problems:
08-08-2016 10:41 AM
Funny how things work. I guess I am now glad this group of IT Pros moved from Yammer to Network.Office.com. Otherwise I would have lost contact with a lot of great people.
Why? Well you were used to seeing me post at Dennis.Wilson@MapleMount.org. As it turns out, I found out today my "skillset no longer meets the need of the organization." So, I am self-employed full time once again.
So I no longer have access to my old profile....except I did get in long enough to add "Old Profile" to my profile.
It will take me a while to build this profile but I will get it built as quickly as I can.
Dennis Wilson, Head Computer Guy
The Computer Guys LLC.com
PS I have no access to my old Yammer Profile so cannot answer queries.
08-08-2016 11:29 AM - edited 08-08-2016 11:40 AM
Funny thing is, I had just last week logged into Yammer and Network.Office.com, one on each screen to find the names of those I had been following in Yammer. I didn't want to lose them once the Yammer IT Pro Network went dark. All that work for naught!
It sure would be great if there were a way to gain access to my old account so I can find all the really great contributors I used to follow. But, I guess I'll just have to rebuild it over time as I see names I recognize and then "follow" them.
08-08-2016 02:05 PM - edited 08-08-2016 02:24 PM
Thank you so very much Lana.
That list was marvelous and all that have made the transition to Network.Office.com have been "followed" now.
I was quite surprised how many I was following in Yammer that have not transitioned to here.
Of the 80,000 members to the Yammer IT Pro Network, how many have made the move?
by Michael Holste on January 16, 2020