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07-18-2016 10:25 AM
We can not cross-post, however we can move posts or entire conversations into a new group.
We'll use this feature if someone posts in the wrong area, or if we need to create a new groups because there is a high volume of posts on a certain topic. (ie, in the SharePoint group there is a lot of posts with the label or tag of "hybrid seach" we could create a new Hybrid Search group and populate it with all of the existing posts on this topic).
07-18-2016 10:42 AM
07-18-2016 11:54 AM
I think this new Network can become a true winner especially when it is indexed as searches will include the answer. many people are looking for.
But i miss the nice overview of Yammer itpronetwork where i have a overview of unread articles would be nice is something like this would be added.
great work team!
07-21-2016 02:14 AM
As someone who tends to read through whole threads on forums or communities before responding (no point in repeating questions or solutions ... my time is precious and I don't want to waste the time of others who have to pass through any unnecessary posts), I get to the end of a thread but then have to go back to the top to reply? I know I can reply to any post on the way through but I might not want to respond to someone else, only respond to the OP.
I'm always happy to move from one system to another (the important thing is the community and the contribution it makes) but some core functions do need to be kept. Is there a reason why being able to reply to the OP at any point in the thread is not here? Or is it just not where I am looking?
Is there a breakdown inteh differences in functionality (as the end user expereinces) that we could look at? It will help when trying to explain to colleagues why the shift has happened and why they need to use a different tool to connect to the wider community.
07-21-2016 03:18 AM
07-21-2016 04:44 AM
I get the point of this site being searchable etc, but the general Yammer chats were easier to follow. New discussions are easier to find in Yammer. Also the email alerts etc seem to be better in the Yammer network. Next to the community being larger ( I'm sure this will change over time).
In short it just feel like we're going back to the good old forums that I used to use for SharePoint. I guess this is still all preview therefore things are likely to change rapidly. I'm looking forward to some improvements.
07-21-2016 07:14 AM
07-21-2016 07:20 AM
And if we could respond directly to messages from a client too, instead of having to come onto a web site ...
We could structure it with things like microsoft.network.o365.news ... and ...
Oh ... I guess things have moved on since then. ;)
I am looking forward to the move, but also looking forward to keeping some essentials.
07-21-2016 08:44 AM
07-21-2016 09:43 AM
I assume that the threading is currently broken, as all posts are not sequential, just chronological.
We are working on improving the threading to increase readability. Agreed it is frustrating.
07-21-2016 12:50 PM
@Naomi Moneypenny wrote:
So becoming HIPAA compliant, having EU Model Clauses, integrating Office 365 login across services, searchability of links in Delve and so many other things count as minor tweaks? I think not...
Too many folks see UI as only improvements, when the secret sauce is in fact integrating conversation into where you work, but you must first do all the infrastructure to make that a reality.
07-21-2016 01:51 PM
As a role model for a highly usable, high volume, I suggest Digital Photography Review (DPreview.com). See https://www.dpreview.com/forums/1021 as an example. Usability features I like:
I know there is no point in talking about the Yammer community going away, so I hope providing examples of good forums and identifying the usability features, you will get some good ideas. Not sure why I am posting this in the Yammer forum, but there is no "meta" discussion area.
I think the O365 Network (Yammer) has/had a lot of power users. I think a key is going to make a community that works for both the newbies and power users. I think DPreview does that well.
Good luck with this, I hope for some fast evolution!!
07-21-2016 01:54 PM
Actually there is, its just too tucked away at the moment :(
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07-26-2016 08:21 AM
I get why the change was made to make this available to more users without the administrative challenges of an invite-only scenario. However, this UI makes no sense to me, and the change communication for this new platform is weak (unless it hasn't happened yet, and that's what is meant by "preview").
I have to think that "Yammer Bugs" is one of the most engaged groups in the Office 365 Network, but I see nothing like that here. If those posts are going to be housed in one big "Yammer" group, expect that any other posts will be pushed down whenever there's a major bug.
There's also too much clicking and scrolling compared to Yammer... and everything is blue.
07-26-2016 09:37 AM
07-27-2016 10:41 AM - edited 07-27-2016 12:27 PM
Thanks Dennis - swatted that one! Typo queen status regained unfortunately... :)
Also thanks @Boris Kapitanovic yes, some people didn't like the shouting but I also thought it was necessary :)
Posted a longer follow up and perspectives also (let me know if you spot anything there!) - most valuable part is the comments from folks though - really great to hear your thoughts.
07-27-2016 12:59 PM
07-27-2016 08:07 PM
@Naomi Moneypenny - great follow up post, i like how you decomposed the issues, thanks for sharing your views!
07-28-2016 08:57 AM
Hey Diane, you can do this in a number of places.
Hope that helps!
07-28-2016 12:01 PM
@Diane Kennedy wrote:
It is really HARD to find MY CONVERSATIONS in this platform. Miss Inbox and/or Profile having a list of my convos. How do I know if people replied to my comment? This feels a lot like an old-style BBS with prettier branding. :\
This is really great feedback and put very simply. I know @Michael Holste gave you the technical answer of how to do this, but I think as a general theme this is such a critical aspect of interaction in our community. Was just meeting with my team and discussing this exact statement, making sure it is easy to continue a conversation, go further with a conversation, not just a one hit wonder "found my answer, moving on". Thanks for this.
08-01-2016 08:20 AM
I do not disagree with you with the following question. I am sincerely curious ....
How does this network give you more accessibility than Yammer?
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08-04-2016 03:44 AM - edited 08-04-2016 07:41 AM
The strategy of having one collaborative platform for enterprise collaboration and another for public collaboration seems to me to be flawed? People just want one tool to collaborate, which is what made email so successful.
It would have been better to take the best of breed collaboration tool, ie Yammer, and add support for public collaboration in those networks that need it. Then you'd have a killer tool.
I'm trying to keep an open mind with this new platform, but it's already irrating me with basic problems:
08-08-2016 10:41 AM
Funny how things work. I guess I am now glad this group of IT Pros moved from Yammer to Network.Office.com. Otherwise I would have lost contact with a lot of great people.
Why? Well you were used to seeing me post at Dennis.Wilson@MapleMount.org. As it turns out, I found out today my "skillset no longer meets the need of the organization." So, I am self-employed full time once again.
So I no longer have access to my old profile....except I did get in long enough to add "Old Profile" to my profile.
It will take me a while to build this profile but I will get it built as quickly as I can.
Dennis Wilson, Head Computer Guy
The Computer Guys LLC.com
PS I have no access to my old Yammer Profile so cannot answer queries.
08-08-2016 11:29 AM - edited 08-08-2016 11:40 AM
Funny thing is, I had just last week logged into Yammer and Network.Office.com, one on each screen to find the names of those I had been following in Yammer. I didn't want to lose them once the Yammer IT Pro Network went dark. All that work for naught!
It sure would be great if there were a way to gain access to my old account so I can find all the really great contributors I used to follow. But, I guess I'll just have to rebuild it over time as I see names I recognize and then "follow" them.
08-08-2016 02:05 PM - edited 08-08-2016 02:24 PM
Thank you so very much Lana.
That list was marvelous and all that have made the transition to Network.Office.com have been "followed" now.
I was quite surprised how many I was following in Yammer that have not transitioned to here.
Of the 80,000 members to the Yammer IT Pro Network, how many have made the move?
by Michael Holste on January 16, 2020