SOLVED
Home

Start menu layout cannot be changed

%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-267195%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3EStart%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-267195%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3EHaving%20just%20installed%20an%20evaluation%20copy%20of%20Windows%20Server%202019%2C%20I%20cannot%20make%20any%20changes%20to%20the%20start%20menu%20layout.%20For%20example%3B%20unchecking%20%22Show%20app%20list%20in%20Start%20menu%22%20from%20the%20Start%20menu%20settings%20does%20nothing.%20Attempting%20to%20choose%20which%20folders%20appear%20on%20the%20start%20menu%20does%20nothing%20also.%20Any%20changes%20to%20the%20tiles%20lasts%20until%20the%20next%20reboot%20where%20it's%20reset.%20Tiles%20will%20become%20unresponsive%20when%20attempting%20to%20drag%20them%20and%20then%20become%20%22ghost%22%20tiles%20that%20cannot%20be%20clicked%20on%20or%20moved%2Funpinned.%20This%20is%20a%20completely%20default%20and%20less%20than%20hour%20old%20install%20-%20absolutely%20no%20changes%20have%20been%20made%20thus%20far.%26nbsp%3B%3CSPAN%20class%3D%22lia-inline-image-display-wrapper%20lia-image-align-inline%22%20style%3D%22width%3A%20999px%3B%22%3E%3CIMG%20src%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Fgxcuf89792.i.lithium.com%2Ft5%2Fimage%2Fserverpage%2Fimage-id%2F55563i28D19DB28881C5EC%2Fimage-size%2Flarge%3Fv%3D1.0%26amp%3Bpx%3D999%22%20alt%3D%221.png%22%20title%3D%221.png%22%20%2F%3E%3C%2FSPAN%3E%3CSPAN%20class%3D%22lia-inline-image-display-wrapper%20lia-image-align-inline%22%20style%3D%22width%3A%20999px%3B%22%3E%3CIMG%20src%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Fgxcuf89792.i.lithium.com%2Ft5%2Fimage%2Fserverpage%2Fimage-id%2F55564i8589D6358A192709%2Fimage-size%2Flarge%3Fv%3D1.0%26amp%3Bpx%3D999%22%20alt%3D%222.png%22%20title%3D%222.png%22%20%2F%3E%3C%2FSPAN%3E%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-LABS%20id%3D%22lingo-labs-267195%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CLINGO-LABEL%3EGeneral%3C%2FLINGO-LABEL%3E%3C%2FLINGO-LABS%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-393930%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-393930%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3E%3CA%20href%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Ftechcommunity.microsoft.com%2Ft5%2Fuser%2Fviewprofilepage%2Fuser-id%2F311791%22%20target%3D%22_blank%22%3E%40InVerter%3C%2FA%3E%20%26nbsp%3B%20Using%20UPD%20is%20also%20a%20different%20scenario.%20The%20fix%20may%20not%20apply%20to%20your%20problem.%26nbsp%3B%20It%20may%20be%20time%20to%20contact%20support%20at%20%3CFONT%20style%3D%22background-color%3A%20%23ffffff%3B%22%3E%3CA%20href%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.microsoft.com%2Fen-us%22%20target%3D%22_blank%22%20rel%3D%22noopener%20noreferrer%20noopener%20noreferrer%20noopener%20noreferrer%20noopener%20noreferrer%20noopener%20noreferrer%20noopener%20noreferrer%20noopener%20noreferrer%20noopener%20noreferrer%22%3Ehttps%3A%2F%2Fsupport.microsoft.com%2Fen-us%3C%2FA%3E%3C%2FFONT%3E%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-393771%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-393771%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3E%3CA%20href%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Ftechcommunity.microsoft.com%2Ft5%2Fuser%2Fviewprofilepage%2Fuser-id%2F51043%22%20target%3D%22_blank%22%3E%40Mary%20Hoffman%3C%2FA%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EHi%20Mary%2C%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EI%20have%20been%20doing%20some%20testing%20in%20various%20scenarios%2C%20if%20you%20modify%20a%20user%20that%20has%20a%20local%20profile%20to%20the%20server%20then%20the%20advised%20KB%20does%20work%20if%20the%20profile%20roams%20with%20the%20local%20one%20being%20deleted%20this%20does%20not%20work%20and%20still%20has%20the%20same%20issue.%20In%20other%20scenarios%20using%20Citrix%20Profile%20Management%20or%20Citrix%20WEM%20then%20the%20issue%20is%20still%20present%20I%20have%20not%20tested%20this%20within%20just%20an%20RDS%20environment%20using%20profile%20disks%20however%20I%20imagine%20this%20will%20have%20the%20same%20issue%20as%20it%20still%20happens%20when%20the%20profile%20is%20located%20elsewhere%20and%2For%20if%20the%20local%20cached%20profile%20is%20removed%20them%20streamed%20back%20to%20the%20server.%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3ERegards%20Chris%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-393320%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-393320%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3E%3CA%20href%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Ftechcommunity.microsoft.com%2Ft5%2Fuser%2Fviewprofilepage%2Fuser-id%2F311791%22%20target%3D%22_blank%22%3E%40InVerter%3C%2FA%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EDid%20you%20try%20the%20workaround%20Marc%20Conroy%20posted%20at%20%3CSPAN%20class%3D%22DateTime%20lia-message-edited-on%20lia-component-common-widget-date%22%3E%3CSPAN%20class%3D%22local-date%22%3E10-15-2018%3C%2FSPAN%3E%20%3CSPAN%20class%3D%22local-time%22%3E04%3A09%20PM%3F%3C%2FSPAN%3E%3C%2FSPAN%3E%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%3CSPAN%20class%3D%22DateTime%20lia-message-edited-on%20lia-component-common-widget-date%22%3E%3CSPAN%20class%3D%22local-time%22%3EYou'll%20have%20to%20revert%20the%20changes%20to%20the%20group%20policies%20for%20the%20update%20to%20have%20an%20effect%20on%20the%20start%20menu.%3C%2FSPAN%3E%3C%2FSPAN%3E%3C%2FP%3E%3CBLOCKQUOTE%3E%3CHR%20%2F%3E%3CHR%20%2F%3E%3C%2FBLOCKQUOTE%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-393310%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-393310%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3E%3CA%20href%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Ftechcommunity.microsoft.com%2Ft5%2Fuser%2Fviewprofilepage%2Fuser-id%2F51043%22%20target%3D%22_blank%22%3E%40Mary%20Hoffman%3C%2FA%3E%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EWorked%20for%20me%20as%20well%2C%20thanks%20for%20the%20update!%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-393272%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-393272%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3E%3CSTRONG%3E2019-03%20Cumulative%20Update%20for%20Windows%20Server%202019%20(1809)%20for%20x64-based%20Systems%20(KB4490481)%3C%2FSTRONG%3E%20is%20being%20offered%20through%20Windows%20Update%20as%20of%20today.%20It%20requires%20a%20reboot.%20Start%20Menu%20changes%20survive%20sign%20off%20%2F%20sign%20on%20afterwards.%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-393271%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-393271%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3E%3CA%20href%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Ftechcommunity.microsoft.com%2Ft5%2Fuser%2Fviewprofilepage%2Fuser-id%2F51043%22%20target%3D%22_blank%22%3E%40Mary%20Hoffman%3C%2FA%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EI%20do%20not%20confirm.%20If%20UPD%20enabled%2C%20fix%20does%20not%20work%3CSPAN%20class%3D%22lia-inline-image-display-wrapper%20lia-image-align-inline%22%20style%3D%22width%3A%20400px%3B%22%3E%3CIMG%20src%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Fgxcuf89792.i.lithium.com%2Ft5%2Fimage%2Fserverpage%2Fimage-id%2F101435i95D52B33A6333B14%2Fimage-size%2Fmedium%3Fv%3D1.0%26amp%3Bpx%3D400%22%20alt%3D%22mstsc_QsocKFEIlW.png%22%20title%3D%22mstsc_QsocKFEIlW.png%22%20%2F%3E%3C%2FSPAN%3E%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-393242%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-393242%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3EThat%20fixed%20it.%20Thanks!%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-393215%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-393215%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%20style%3D%22margin%3A%200in%200in%200pt%3B%22%3E%3CA%20href%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Fnam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fsupport.microsoft.com%252Fhelp%252F4490481%26amp%3Bdata%3D02%257C01%257CMary.Hoffman%2540microsoft.com%257Ceeb47278ed07400ca3f308d6b7959308%257C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%257C1%257C0%257C636898250372852992%26amp%3Bsdata%3DnXPMtEBm4%252BaW0anT%252FsydE8Y333aRmvBjWoxCHdPy%252BKU%253D%26amp%3Breserved%3D0%22%20target%3D%22_blank%22%20rel%3D%22nofollow%20noopener%20noreferrer%20noopener%20noreferrer%20noopener%20noreferrer%20noopener%20noreferrer%20noopener%20noreferrer%20noopener%20noreferrer%20noopener%20noreferrer%20noopener%20noreferrer%22%3Ehttps%3A%2F%2Fsupport.microsoft.com%2Fhelp%2F4490481%3C%2FA%3E%26nbsp%3B-%20the%20KB%20doesn't%20specifically%20mention%20this%20bug%2C%20but%20the%20fix%20is%20included%20in%20this%20update.%20You%20can%20download%20from%20here%3A%26nbsp%3B%3CA%20href%3D%22http%3A%2F%2Fcatalog.update.microsoft.com%2Fv7%2Fsite%2FSearch.aspx%3Fq%3DKB4490481%22%20target%3D%22_self%22%20rel%3D%22noopener%20noreferrer%20noopener%20noreferrer%20noopener%20noreferrer%20noopener%20noreferrer%20noopener%20noreferrer%20noopener%20noreferrer%20noopener%20noreferrer%20noopener%20noreferrer%22%3EMicrosoft%20Catalog%3C%2FA%3E%20%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-392224%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-392224%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3EIt%20is%20my%20understanding%20that%20a%20fix%20is%20coming%20and%20should%20be%20out%20this%20month.%20I%20will%20update%20you%20with%20the%20KB%20%23%20once%20it%20is%20live.%26nbsp%3BThanks%20for%20your%20patience.%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-391828%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-391828%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3E%3CA%20href%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Ftechcommunity.microsoft.com%2Ft5%2Fuser%2Fviewprofilepage%2Fuser-id%2F223338%22%20target%3D%22_blank%22%3E%40Cooper%20Beutel%3C%2FA%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EIf%20you%20add%20any%20file%20to%20the%20%22c%3A%5CProgramData%5CMicrosoft%5CWindows%5CStart%20Menu%22%20folder%20(or%20in%20user%20profile%20Start%20Menu%20folder)%2C%20it%20will%20cause%20the%20start%20menu%20to%20be%20updated.%20But%20this%20is%20a%20bug.%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-391503%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-391503%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3EI%20am%20experiencing%20this%20problem%20as%20well.%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-375981%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-375981%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3E%3CA%20href%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Ftechcommunity.microsoft.com%2Ft5%2Fuser%2Fviewprofilepage%2Fuser-id%2F240901%22%20target%3D%22_blank%22%3E%40Aurel%20Schwitter%3C%2FA%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3ETried%20that%20but%20it%20didn't%20work.%20All%20changes%20are%20lost%20when%20loggin%20off%20and%20on%20again.%20Also%20any%20changes%20I%20make%20in%20the%20stat%20menu%20settings%20are%20gone%20as%20soon%20as%20I%20go%20back%20there.%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-370255%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-370255%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3E%3CA%20href%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Ftechcommunity.microsoft.com%2Ft5%2Fuser%2Fviewprofilepage%2Fuser-id%2F301400%22%20target%3D%22_blank%22%3E%40makbeth%3C%2FA%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EI%20have%20tried%20your%20help.%20But%20I%20can't%20personaliz%20my%20Start%20page.%20If%20I%20go%20to%20%22Windows%20Settings%22%20and%20%22Personalization%22%2C%20%22Start%22%2C%20and%20set%20%22Use%20Start%20full%20screen%22%20to%20ON%20it%20dosn't%20work.%20It%20works%20OK%20before%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3Epromotion%20server%20to%20Domain%20Controller.%20After%20that%2C%20it%20can't%20be%20done.%20It%20is%20the%20same%20for%20many%20other%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3Efunctions%20under%20%22Windows%20Settings.%20Is%20there%20some%20special%20settings%20for%20Windows%20Server%202019%3F%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-369930%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-369930%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3EYou%20can%20reproduce%20problem%20without%20logging%20off%20-%20simply%20restart%20Explorer%2C%20using%20Task%20Manager.%20So%2C%20I%20think%20this%20problem%20is%20not%20related%20to%20the%20user%20profile.%20Moreover%2C%20desktop%20settings%20are%20saved%20between%20sessions.%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-369895%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-369895%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3E%3CA%20href%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Ftechcommunity.microsoft.com%2Ft5%2Fuser%2Fviewprofilepage%2Fuser-id%2F278921%22%20target%3D%22_blank%22%3E%40Pete78%3C%2FA%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EIt%20seems%20like%20a%20long%20shot%2C%20but%20we%20had%20similar%20issues%20with%20our%20Startlayout%20on%20Win%2010%201809.%20When%20the%20Policy%20%3CEM%3E%22Computer%20Configuration%20-%26gt%3B%20Administrative%20Policies%20-%26gt%3B%20System%20-%26gt%3B%20Group%20Policy%20-%26gt%3B%20Continue%20Experiences%20on%20this%20Device%22%3C%2FEM%3E%20is%20set%20to%20disabled%2C%20everything%20relating%20to%20the%20start%20menu%20is%20buggy.%20(Layout%2C%20recent%20apps%2C%20Show%20Start%20in%20Full%20Screen%2C%20etc.).%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3ECould%20you%20try%20setting%20this%20Policy%20to%20%22Enabled%22%20or%20%22not%20configured%22%20and%20see%20if%20this%20works%3F%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-364081%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-364081%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3EWill%20try%2C%20thanks!%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EFrom%20my%20understanding%20the%20policy%20prevents%20a%20temporary%20profile%20from%20being%20loaded%20in%20case%20the%20regular%20one%20can't%20be%20loaded.%20I%20didn't%20find%20any%20hint%20on%20that%20in%20the%20system%20logs.%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EUpdate%3A%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3ENope%2C%20still%20doesn't%20work.%20I'm%20definetely%20not%20logged%20on%20with%20a%20temproary%20profile%20since%20shortcuts%20I%20pin%20to%20the%20taskbar%20remain%20intact.%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EThanks%20anyway!%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-364079%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-364079%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3EI've%20made%20the%20change%20and%20will%20see%20if%20it%20works%20later%2C%20because%20in%20my%20case%20any%20change%20is%20not%20instantly%20lost.%20If%20I%20log-in%2C%20make%20a%20change%2C%20log%20off%20then%20immediately%20log%20back%20on%20the%20change%20remains.%20I%20can%20do%20this%20a%20few%20times%20within%20a%20short%20space%20of%20time%20and%20the%20change%20is%20still%20there.%20It's%20only%20later%20in%20the%20day%20when%20I%20log%20on%20that%20the%20change%20is%20finally%20reset.%3C%2FP%3E%3CBLOCKQUOTE%3E%3CHR%20%2F%3E%3CA%20href%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Ftechcommunity.microsoft.com%2Ft5%2Fuser%2Fviewprofilepage%2Fuser-id%2F296831%22%20target%3D%22_blank%22%3E%40robb-flx%3C%2FA%3E%26nbsp%3Bwrote%3A%3CBR%20%2F%3ETy%20this%20one%3A%3CBR%20%2F%3E%26gt%3B%26gt%3B%20Use%20the%20group%20policy%20setting%20%22Do%20not%20log%20users%20on%20with%20temporary%20profiles%22%2C%20to%20be%20found%20in%20%26gt%3B%26gt%3B%20Computer%20Configuration%20-%26gt%3B%20Policies%20-%26gt%3B%20Administrative%20Templates-%26gt%3B%20System%20-%26gt%3B%20User%20Profiles.%3CHR%20%2F%3E%3C%2FBLOCKQUOTE%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-364072%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-364072%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ETy%20this%20one%3A%3CBR%20%2F%3E%26gt%3B%26gt%3B%20Use%20the%20group%20policy%20setting%20%22Do%20not%20log%20users%20on%20with%20temporary%20profiles%22%2C%20to%20be%20found%20in%20%26gt%3B%26gt%3B%20Computer%20Configuration%20-%26gt%3B%20Policies%20-%26gt%3B%20Administrative%20Templates-%26gt%3B%20System%20-%26gt%3B%20User%20Profiles.%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-362592%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-362592%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CBLOCKQUOTE%3E%3CHR%20%2F%3E%3CA%20href%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Ftechcommunity.microsoft.com%2Ft5%2Fuser%2Fviewprofilepage%2Fuser-id%2F296831%22%20target%3D%22_blank%22%3E%40robb-flx%3C%2FA%3E%26nbsp%3Bwrote%3A%3CBR%20%2F%3E%3CP%3Ei%20got%20told%2C%20the%20adminsitrator%20account%20is%20somehow%20a%20temporary%20profile%20which%20gets%20reset%20by%20logging%20out.%20This%20can%20be%20disabled%20somehow%20by%20policy.%20But%20hadn't%20time%20to%20look%20at%20it.%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CHR%20%2F%3E%3C%2FBLOCKQUOTE%3E%3CP%3ECouldn't%20find%20anything%20on%20that%20but%20would%20be%20glad%20if%20the%20problem%20could%20be%20resolved%20so%20easily.%20Please%20look%20it%20up%20when%20you%20have%20the%20time.%20thx.%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-362575%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-362575%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3Ei%20got%20told%2C%20the%20adminsitrator%20account%20is%20somehow%20a%20temporary%20profile%20which%20gets%20reset%20by%20logging%20out.%20This%20can%20be%20disabled%20somehow%20by%20policy.%20But%20hadn't%20time%20to%20look%20at%20it.%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-357865%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-357865%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3ESame%20here%20as%20of%202%2F27%2F2019.%26nbsp%3B%20Fully%20patched%20windows%20server%202019%20standard.%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-356241%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20RE%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-356241%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3EMe%20too%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-355932%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20RE%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-355932%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3EI%20am%20with%20you%2C%20I%20wander%20if%20it%20is%20wise%20to%20us%20Windows%202019%20Server%20in%20a%20production%20enviroment%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-331472%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20RE%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-331472%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3EI%20totally%20agree.%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-331450%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20RE%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-331450%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3EI%20am%20honestly%20baffled%20that%20an%20error%20so%20central%20to%20the%20core%20operation%20of%20Windows%20has%20STILL%20not%20been%20publicly%20acknowledged%20by%20Microsoft%20-%20in%20my%20situation%2C%20it%20has%20rendered%20my%20WS2019%20lab%20VM's%20useless%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-331447%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERE%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-331447%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3EHi%20Pete%2C%20I%20tested%20the%20issue%20again%20with%20a%20fresh%20installed%2C%20domain%20joined%20Windows%20Server%202019%20with%20January%20patch%20level.%20The%20issue%20still%20exists.%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-331393%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-331393%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3EHey%20everybody!%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EI'm%20experiencing%20the%20same%20problem.%20Any%20news%20on%20this%3F%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EOr%20maybe%20a%20response%20from%20MS%3F%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-315758%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20RE%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-315758%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ESame%20problem%20here%2C%20fully%20patched%20(2019-01-15)%20and%20activated%20WS2019%20lets%20me%20change%20the%20items%20pinned%20to%20the%20Start%20menu%20but%20it%20gets%20reverted%20on%20logoff%20if%20the%20machine%20is%20in%20the%20domain.%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-313237%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-313237%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3ERan%20into%20the%20same%20problem%20for%20activating%20MAK%20keys%20in%202019.%26nbsp%3B%20You%20have%20to%20use%20command%20prompt%20to%20install%20the%20MAK%20keys%20right%20now.%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3Euninstall%20current%20product%20key%20-%20slmgr%20%2Fupk%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3Einstall%20new%20product%20key%20-%20slmgr%20%2Fipk%20%3CPRODUCT%20key%3D%22%22%3E%3C%2FPRODUCT%3E%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3Eactivate%20new%20key%20-%20slmgr%20%2Fato%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EI%20also%20found%20that%20putting%20the%20MAK%20product%20key%20in%20an%20unattend.xml%20file%20for%20sysprep%20does%20take%20and%20and%20activate.%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-310456%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-310456%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3EHi%20Chrigel%2C%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EI%20experienced%20the%20same%20issues.%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EFurthermore%20I'm%20not%20able%20to%20license%20any%20Windows%20Server%202019%20via%20VLSC%20license%20keys%20(MAK%20activation).%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EWindows%20Server%202019%20Evaluation%20media%20isn't%20available%20in%20the%20evaluation%20center.%20Seems%20like%20this%20will%20become%20a%20real%20nice%20server%20OS...%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EGreets%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3ETobi%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-310449%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-310449%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3EI%20experienced%20the%20same%2C%20but%20the%20problem%20began%20not%20when%20I%20joined%20the%20machine%20to%20the%20domain%20but%20when%20I%20activated%20the%20License%20(no%20KMS%20installed%20in%20this%20environment).%20At%20this%20point%2C%20the%20system%20allows%20to%20change%20the%20design-settings%20(by%20design)%20and%20puts%20the%20start%20menu%20to%20default%20(by%20bug)%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EAnybody%20a%20clue%3F%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-308435%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20RE%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-308435%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3EHi%20Chris%2C%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3ENope%20still%20an%20issue%20after%20applying%20the%20KB%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-301306%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-301306%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3EI%20have%203%20test%202019%20servers%20in%20a%20domain%20all%20upgraded%20from%202016%2C%20one%20DC%20and%20two%20member%20servers%2C%20none%20of%20them%20are%20free%20of%20problems.%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EThe%20DC%20still%20has%20this%20issue%20no%20matter%20what%20I%20do%2C%20latest%20updates%2C%20recreating%20profiles%2C%20the%20start%20menu%20always%20reverts%20to%20default.%20The%20two%20member%20servers%20are%20fine%2C%20although%20until%20this%20week%20their%20Windows%20Explorer%20would%20not%20display%20correctly%20when%20setting%20apps%20to%20%22dark%20mode%22%2C%20they'd%20have%20white%20backgrounds%20for%20the%20address%20bars%20and%20context%20menus%20making%20them%20unreadable.%20Reseting%20the%20theme%20to%20default%20has%20fixed%20that.%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-301156%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20RE%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-301156%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3EIn%20a%20remarkable%20twist%20of%20events%2C%20my%20custom%20start%20menu%20has%20survived%20a%20restart!%20However%2C%20I%20customised%20the%20start%20menu%20before%20promoting%20the%20server%20to%20a%20DC.%20After%20promotion%2C%20the%20layout%20still%20cannot%20be%20changed.%20I%20should%20point%20out%20that%20I%20made%20the%20initial%20changes%20to%20the%20local%20admin%20account.%20After%20promotion%2C%20a%20new%20domain%20admin%20account%20(and%20user%20profile)%20was%20created.%20I%20changed%20the%20ProfileImagePath%20registry%20entry%20to%20point%20to%20the%20original%20local%20admin%20profile%20(therefore%20retaining%20any%20customisation)%20therefore%20deleting%20the%20new%20user%20profile.%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EEdit%3A%20I%20spoke%20too%20soon.%20The%20start%20menu%20is%20broken%20again%20-%20the%20custom%20layout%20is%20gone.%20Unbelievable%3CSPAN%20class%3D%22lia-inline-image-display-wrapper%20lia-image-align-inline%22%20style%3D%22width%3A%20999px%3B%22%3E%3CIMG%20src%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Fgxcuf89792.i.lithium.com%2Ft5%2Fimage%2Fserverpage%2Fimage-id%2F62665iAFFEBC1C6405F4BC%2Fimage-size%2Flarge%3Fv%3D1.0%26amp%3Bpx%3D999%22%20alt%3D%22Untitled-2.png%22%20title%3D%22Untitled-2.png%22%20%2F%3E%3C%2FSPAN%3E%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-299769%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20RE%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-299769%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3EHi%20Chris%2C%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EGreat%2C%20will%20have%20a%20test%20and%20check%20it%20all%20out%20in%20a%20domain%20joined%20setup%20and%20report%20back%20when%20possible.%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-299763%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20RE%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-299763%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3EAppears%20to%20have%20been%20(silently)%20resolved%20with%26nbsp%3B%3CSPAN%3E2018-12%20Cumulative%20Update%20for%20Windows%20Server%202019%20for%20x64-based%20Systems%20(KB4471332).%26nbsp%3B%20Applied%20to%20a%20non-domain%20joined%20server%2C%20and%20Start%20Menu%20items%20are%20where%20I%20left%20'em%2C%20and%20the%20'new'%20flag%20on%20icons%20stays%20away%20once%20you%20right%20click%20Start%20Menu%20items.%3C%2FSPAN%3E%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%3CSPAN%3ENot%20tested%20on%20a%20domain-joined%20server%2C%20so%20if%20you%20wanna%20test%20that%20and%20report%20back%2C%20knock%20yer%20socks%20off.%3C%2FSPAN%3E%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%3CA%20href%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Fwww.catalog.update.microsoft.com%2FSearch.aspx%3Fq%3D2018-12%22%20target%3D%22_blank%22%20rel%3D%22noopener%20noreferrer%20noopener%20noreferrer%20noopener%20noreferrer%20noopener%20noreferrer%20noopener%20noreferrer%20noopener%20noreferrer%20noopener%20noreferrer%20noopener%20noreferrer%22%3Ehttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.catalog.update.microsoft.com%2FSearch.aspx%3Fq%3D2018-12%3C%2FA%3E%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-289739%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERE%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-289739%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3EI%20think%20this%20issue%20seems%20to%20be%20being%20ignored.%20Whilst%20this%20issue%20will%20not%20impact%20a%20normal%20server%20deployment%20anyone%20using%20the%20server%20as%20a%20Citrix%20VDA%20or%20RDS%20Session%20host%20will%20not%20be%20able%20to%20without%20having%20no%20changes%20to%20the%20default%20start%20menu%20an%20option%20that%20is%20not%20possible%20for%20the%20majority%20of%20us.%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-287098%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20RE%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-287098%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3EYes%2C%20but%20with%20the%20same%20issue%2C%20additionally%20in%20every%20installation-mode%20if%20the%20machine%20is%20domainjoined%20or%20not.%20there%20ist%20no%20workarround%20for%20this%3F%3F%3F!!!%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-286822%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERE%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-286822%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3EAfter%20Windows%20Server%202019%20is%20released%20for%202nd%20time%20-%20does%20anyone%20checked%20if%20the%20start%20still%20cannot%20be%20changed%20permanently%3F%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-282071%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-282071%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3EIt%20would%20seem%20that%20Microsoft%20won't%20even%20acknowledge%20that%20this%20is%20an%20issue.%20Start%20menu%20customisation%20is%26nbsp%3Bbasic%20Windows%20functionality%20-%20regardless%20of%20it%20being%20a%20server%20OS%2C%20there%20is%20a%20need%20to%20change%20it%20from%20the%20default.%20I%20can't%20use%20the%20Feedback%20Hub%20app%20to%20report%20this%20as%20our%20domain%20joined%26nbsp%3Bworkstations%20have%20had%20this%20feature%20disabled.%20I'm%20just%20happy%20I%20opted%20to%20%22try%20before%20you%20buy%22%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-280318%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-280318%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3ESame%20-%20domain%20joined%202019%20server.%26nbsp%3B%20Even%20tried%20resetting%20the%20permissions%2Fowner%20on%20the%20profile%20folder.%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3ENo%20luck%20%3A%5C%3C%2Fimg%3E%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-273508%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-273508%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3EOkay%2C%20so%20I%20resorted%20to%20plan%20B%3B%20install%20WS2019%20core%20inside%20a%20Windows%2010%20Hyper-V%20host%20and%20use%20the%20Windows%2010%20machine%20as%20the%20GUI%20for%20WS2019%20through%20RSAT%2C%20etc.%20however%20it%20would%20seem%20that%20Windows%20Deployment%20Server%20doesn't%20work%20in%20the%20core%20edition.%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EBack%20to%20square%20one.%20As%20much%20as%20I%20like%20the%20new%20features%20in%20WS2019%2C%20WS2016%20has%20far%20less%20bugs%20and%20will%20be%20serving%20as%20my%20main%20server%20OS%20until%20MS%20sorts%20out%20WS2019.%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-271486%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-271486%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3EHi%20Cooper%2C%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EA%20few%20extra%20local%20policy%20settings%20you%20can%20edit%20under%20'User%20Configuration%20%26gt%3B%20Administrative%20Templates%20%26gt%3B%20Start%20Menu%20and%20Taskbar'%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E-%20Remove%20All%20Programs%20list%20from%20the%20Start%20menu%26nbsp%3B%20%3A%26nbsp%3B%20Set%20to%20'Collapsed'%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E-%20Remove%20%22Recently%20added%22%20list%20from%20Start%20menu%26nbsp%3B%20%3A%26nbsp%3B%20Enabled%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3ESadly%20it%20looks%20like%20editing%20the%20'Choose%20which%20folders%20to%20appear%20on%20Start'%20requires%20a%20fair%20bit%20of%20registry%20editing%20so%20probably%20not%20worth%20it%20at%20the%20moment.%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EHope%20this%20helps%20%3A%20)%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-271472%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-271472%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3EOk%2C%20managed%20to%20'hack%20around'%20this%20to%20some%20extent%20until%20Microsoft%20actually%20fix%20the%20core%20issue.%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EI%20built%20a%20Start%20Menu%20layout%20file%20(LayoutModification.xml)%20which%20I%20am%20then%20applying%20using%20the%20'Local%20Group%20Policy'%20setting%20for%20'Start%20Menu'%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EUser%20Configuration%20%26gt%3B%20Administrative%20Templates%20%26gt%3B%20Start%20Menu%20and%20Taskbar%20%26gt%3B%20'Start%20Layout'%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EI%20enabled%20the%20setting%20and%20specified%20my%20LayoutModification.xml%20file%20and%20then%20restarted.%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EAt%20each%20restart%20this%20start%20layout%20file%20now%20gets%20applied%20and%20subsequently%20the%20start%20menu%20gets%20sets%20to%20the%20layout%20I%20specified.%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EAttached%20is%20a%20copy%20of%20my%20LayoutModification.xml%20file%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EIf%20you%20do%20not%20know%20how%20to%20build%20these%20manually%20then%20you%20can%20export%20your%20own%20from%20a%20configured%20start%20menu%2C%20however%2C%20you%20will%20need%20to%20be%20able%20to%20edit%20the%20start%20menu%20first%20so%20run%20the%20below%20in%20an%20elevated%20PowerShell%20session%3A%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E1.%20Right-click%20'Start'%20%26gt%3B%20Windows%20PowerShell%20(Admin)%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E2.%20Run%20the%20following%20command%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EGet-AppXPackage%20-AllUsers%20%7C%20Foreach%20%7BAdd-AppxPackage%20-DisableDevelopmentMode%20-Register%20%22%24(%24_.InstallLocation)%5CAppXManifest.xml%22%7D%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EOnce%20the%20command%20is%20run%20you%20can%20then%20go%20into%20'Settings'%20and%20apply%20the%20Start%20options%20you%20require.%26nbsp%3B%20You%20can%20also%20then%20organise%20the%20layout%20of%20the%20start%20menu%20(pin%20apps%20etc.)%20as%20required.%26nbsp%3B%20Make%20sure%20to%20not%20log%20off%20or%20restart%20or%20you%20will%20lose%20this!%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EOnce%20you%20have%20the%20layout%20set%20that%20you%20require%20do%20the%20following%3A%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E1.%20Right-click%20'Start'%20%26gt%3B%20Windows%20PowerShell%20(Admin)%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E2.%20Run%20the%20following%20command%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EExport-StartLayout%20-Path%20C%3A%5CLayoutModification.xml%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E3.%20Navigate%20to%20your%20exported%20LayoutModification.xml%20and%20copy%20%2F%20move%20it%20into%20an%20easily%20accessible%20folder%20(I%20used%20'C%3A%5CSystem%5CStartMenu%5CLayoutModification.xml')%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E4.%20Right-click%20'Start'%20%26gt%3B%20Run%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E5.%20Enter%3A%20gpedit.msc%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E6.%20In%20the%20Local%20Group%20Policy%20editor%20navigate%20to%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EUser%20Configuration%20%26gt%3B%20Administrative%20Templates%20%26gt%3B%20Start%20Menu%20and%20Taskbar%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E7.%20Edit%20the%20'Start%20Layout'%20policy%20setting%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%3CSPAN%20class%3D%22lia-inline-image-display-wrapper%20lia-image-align-inline%22%20style%3D%22width%3A%20282px%3B%22%3E%3CIMG%20src%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Fgxcuf89792.i.lithium.com%2Ft5%2Fimage%2Fserverpage%2Fimage-id%2F56415i0D4215D227F59545%2Fimage-size%2Flarge%3Fv%3D1.0%26amp%3Bpx%3D999%22%20alt%3D%22Setting.PNG%22%20title%3D%22Setting.PNG%22%20%2F%3E%3C%2FSPAN%3E%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E8.%20Set%20it%20to%20'Enabled'%20and%20enter%20the%20path%20to%20your%20exported%20layout%20file%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E9.%20Apply%20the%20changes%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3ENow%20when%20you%20restart%20the%20server%20the%20layout%20file%20should%20be%20applied%20every%20time%20and%20should%20no%20longer%20reset%20back%20to%20the%20generic%20layout.%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3ENOTE%3A%26nbsp%3B%20The%20'Start'%20settings%20that%20you%20choose%20will%20be%20reset%20(curse%20you%20Microsoft!)%20but%20the%20actual%20layout%20of%20the%20pinned%20apps%20will%20stay%20as%20defined%20in%20the%20file.%26nbsp%3B%20I%20guess%20we%20can%20control%20the%20other%20aspects%2C%20such%20as%20Apps%20List%20visibility%2C%20via%20other%20policy%20settings%20in%20the%20local%20GPO%20so%20will%20continue%20to%20look%20into%20those.%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-271418%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-271418%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3ECertainly%20looks%20that%20way!%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EI%20did%20manage%20to%20get%20the%20Start%20working%20again%20temporarily%20by%20resetting%20the%20Windows%20Store%20apps%20etc.%20by%20running%20the%20script%20below%20in%20an%20elevated%20PowerShell%20session%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EGet-AppXPackage%20-AllUsers%20%7C%20Foreach%20%7BAdd-AppxPackage%20-DisableDevelopmentMode%20-Register%20%22%24(%24_.InstallLocation)%5CAppXManifest.xml%22%7D%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EOnce%20the%20above%20is%20run%20you%20can%20then%20change%20the%20Start%20menu%20personalisation%20options%20as%20per%20normal%20through%20Settings%20and%20the%20changes%20apply%2C%20however%2C%20as%20soon%20as%20you%20log%20out%20and%20back%20in%20again%20it%20once%20again%20resets%20everything.%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EI%20have%20gone%20through%20101%20other%20steps%20including%20a%20full%20'sfc%20%2Fscannow'%20and%20'dism%20%2Fonline'%20repair%20and%20yet%20the%20same%20issue%20occurs%20non-stop.%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EAs%20soon%20as%20I%20restore%20the%20VM%20back%20to%20before%20it%20was%20promoted%20to%20to%20a%20domain%20controller%20it%20all%20works%20fine%20again%2C%20till%20I%20once%20again%20promote%20it%20and%20log%20back%20in%20with%20a%20domain%20account.%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-271364%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-271364%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3EI%20managed%20to%20hide%20the%20all%20apps%20list%20via%20a%20registry%20change%2C%20but%20now%20the%20button%20to%20open%20the%20all%20apps%20list%20is%20completely%20missing.%20Something%20tells%20me%20WS2019%20wasn't%20ready%20to%20be%20released...%20The%20documents%20and%20pictures%20buttons%20are%20also%20useless%20and%20fail%20to%20open%20explorer.%3CSPAN%20class%3D%22lia-inline-image-display-wrapper%20lia-image-align-inline%22%20style%3D%22width%3A%20999px%3B%22%3E%3CIMG%20src%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Fgxcuf89792.i.lithium.com%2Ft5%2Fimage%2Fserverpage%2Fimage-id%2F56405i691FF2C165BA125D%2Fimage-size%2Flarge%3Fv%3D1.0%26amp%3Bpx%3D999%22%20alt%3D%220.png%22%20title%3D%220.png%22%20%2F%3E%3C%2FSPAN%3E%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-271359%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-271359%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3EHi%20Cooper%2C%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%3CBR%20%2F%3EWe%20are%20experiencing%20the%20exact%20same%20issue%20as%20well.%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EWhat%20we%20have%20noticed%20is%20that%20the%20issue%20only%20occurs%20for%20us%20when%20the%20Server%202019%20box%20is%20part%20of%20a%20domain.%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EIf%20we%20build%20a%20fresh%20new%202019%20server%20(standalone)%20then%20the%20start%20menu%20works%20flawlessly.%26nbsp%3B%20The%20second%20we%20promote%20the%20server%20to%20a%20Domain%20Controller%20(and%20subsequently%20log%20in%20as%20domain%20Administrator)%20then%20the%20start%20menu%20issue%20rears%20its%20ugly%20head!%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-268391%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-268391%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3EHey%20guys%2C%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3Esame%20problem%20here%2C%20too.%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EAny%20ideas%20how%20to%20fix%20it%3F%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-449203%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-449203%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3EMicrosoft%20seem%20to%20have%20fixed%20this%20in%20the%20last%20round%20of%20updates.%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EThe%20Start%20Menu%20on%20our%202019%20Server%20(DC)%20is%20now%20working%20perfectly%2C%20when%20it%20was%20displaying%20the%20exact%20same%20symptoms%20as%20yours%20before%20and%20on%20every%20reboot%20%2F%20login.%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-482804%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-482804%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3E%3CA%20href%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Ftechcommunity.microsoft.com%2Ft5%2Fuser%2Fviewprofilepage%2Fuser-id%2F13012%22%20target%3D%22_blank%22%3E%40Gary%20Searle%3C%2FA%3EDo%20you%20know%20the%20KB%20number%20for%20the%20update%20that%20fixes%20the%20error%3F%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-482815%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-482815%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3E%3CA%20href%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Ftechcommunity.microsoft.com%2Ft5%2Fuser%2Fviewprofilepage%2Fuser-id%2F311791%22%20target%3D%22_blank%22%3E%40InVerter%3C%2FA%3E%26nbsp%3BHave%20you%20tried%20%3CA%20href%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Fnam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fsupport.microsoft.com%252Fhelp%252F4490481%26amp%3Bdata%3D02%257C01%257CMary.Hoffman%2540microsoft.com%257Ceeb47278ed07400ca3f308d6b7959308%257C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%257C1%257C0%257C636898250372852992%26amp%3Bsdata%3DnXPMtEBm4%252BaW0anT%252FsydE8Y333aRmvBjWoxCHdPy%252BKU%253D%26amp%3Breserved%3D0%22%20target%3D%22_blank%22%20rel%3D%22nofollow%20noopener%20noreferrer%20noopener%20noreferrer%20noopener%20noreferrer%20noopener%20noreferrer%20noopener%20noreferrer%22%3Ehttps%3A%2F%2Fsupport.microsoft.com%2Fhelp%2F4490481%3C%2FA%3E%26nbsp%3B-%20the%20KB%20doesn't%20specifically%20mention%20this%20bug%2C%20but%20the%20fix%20is%20included%20in%20this%20update.%20You%20can%20download%20from%20here%3A%26nbsp%3BMicrosoft%20Catalog%26nbsp%3B%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-482822%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-482822%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3E%3CA%20href%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Ftechcommunity.microsoft.com%2Ft5%2Fuser%2Fviewprofilepage%2Fuser-id%2F51043%22%20target%3D%22_blank%22%3E%40Mary%20Hoffman%3C%2FA%3EI%20installed%20this%20package%20earlier%2C%20but%20it%20did%20not%20solve%20the%20problem.%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-482823%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3ERe%3A%20Start%20menu%20layout%20cannot%20be%20changed%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-482823%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%3E%3CP%3E%3CA%20href%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Ftechcommunity.microsoft.com%2Ft5%2Fuser%2Fviewprofilepage%2Fuser-id%2F311791%22%20target%3D%22_blank%22%3E%40InVerter%3C%2FA%3E%26nbsp%3B2019-03%20Cumulative%20Update%20for%20Windows%20Server%202019%20(1809)%20for%20x64-based%20Systems%20(KB4490481)%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E
Highlighted
Cooper Beutel
Occasional Contributor

Having just installed an evaluation copy of Windows Server 2019, I cannot make any changes to the start menu layout. For example; unchecking "Show app list in Start menu" from the Start menu settings does nothing. Attempting to choose which folders appear on the start menu does nothing also. Any changes to the tiles lasts until the next reboot where it's reset. Tiles will become unresponsive when attempting to drag them and then become "ghost" tiles that cannot be clicked on or moved/unpinned. This is a completely default and less than hour old install - absolutely no changes have been made thus far. 1.png2.png

53 Replies
Highlighted

Hey guys,

 

same problem here, too.

 

Any ideas how to fix it?

Highlighted

Hi Cooper,


We are experiencing the exact same issue as well.

 

What we have noticed is that the issue only occurs for us when the Server 2019 box is part of a domain.

 

If we build a fresh new 2019 server (standalone) then the start menu works flawlessly.  The second we promote the server to a Domain Controller (and subsequently log in as domain Administrator) then the start menu issue rears its ugly head!

Highlighted

I managed to hide the all apps list via a registry change, but now the button to open the all apps list is completely missing. Something tells me WS2019 wasn't ready to be released... The documents and pictures buttons are also useless and fail to open explorer.0.png

Highlighted

Certainly looks that way!

 

I did manage to get the Start working again temporarily by resetting the Windows Store apps etc. by running the script below in an elevated PowerShell session

 

Get-AppXPackage -AllUsers | Foreach {Add-AppxPackage -DisableDevelopmentMode -Register "$($_.InstallLocation)\AppXManifest.xml"}

 

Once the above is run you can then change the Start menu personalisation options as per normal through Settings and the changes apply, however, as soon as you log out and back in again it once again resets everything.

 

I have gone through 101 other steps including a full 'sfc /scannow' and 'dism /online' repair and yet the same issue occurs non-stop.

 

As soon as I restore the VM back to before it was promoted to to a domain controller it all works fine again, till I once again promote it and log back in with a domain account.

Highlighted

Ok, managed to 'hack around' this to some extent until Microsoft actually fix the core issue.

 

I built a Start Menu layout file (LayoutModification.xml) which I am then applying using the 'Local Group Policy' setting for 'Start Menu'

 

User Configuration > Administrative Templates > Start Menu and Taskbar > 'Start Layout'

 

I enabled the setting and specified my LayoutModification.xml file and then restarted.

At each restart this start layout file now gets applied and subsequently the start menu gets sets to the layout I specified.

 

Attached is a copy of my LayoutModification.xml file

 

If you do not know how to build these manually then you can export your own from a configured start menu, however, you will need to be able to edit the start menu first so run the below in an elevated PowerShell session:

 

1. Right-click 'Start' > Windows PowerShell (Admin)

2. Run the following command

 

Get-AppXPackage -AllUsers | Foreach {Add-AppxPackage -DisableDevelopmentMode -Register "$($_.InstallLocation)\AppXManifest.xml"}

 

Once the command is run you can then go into 'Settings' and apply the Start options you require.  You can also then organise the layout of the start menu (pin apps etc.) as required.  Make sure to not log off or restart or you will lose this!

 

Once you have the layout set that you require do the following:

 

1. Right-click 'Start' > Windows PowerShell (Admin)

2. Run the following command

 

Export-StartLayout -Path C:\LayoutModification.xml

 

3. Navigate to your exported LayoutModification.xml and copy / move it into an easily accessible folder (I used 'C:\System\StartMenu\LayoutModification.xml')

 

4. Right-click 'Start' > Run

5. Enter: gpedit.msc

6. In the Local Group Policy editor navigate to

 

User Configuration > Administrative Templates > Start Menu and Taskbar

 

7. Edit the 'Start Layout' policy setting

 

Setting.PNG

 

8. Set it to 'Enabled' and enter the path to your exported layout file

9. Apply the changes

 

Now when you restart the server the layout file should be applied every time and should no longer reset back to the generic layout.

 

NOTE:  The 'Start' settings that you choose will be reset (curse you Microsoft!) but the actual layout of the pinned apps will stay as defined in the file.  I guess we can control the other aspects, such as Apps List visibility, via other policy settings in the local GPO so will continue to look into those.

Highlighted

Hi Cooper,

 

A few extra local policy settings you can edit under 'User Configuration > Administrative Templates > Start Menu and Taskbar'

 

- Remove All Programs list from the Start menu  :  Set to 'Collapsed'

- Remove "Recently added" list from Start menu  :  Enabled

 

Sadly it looks like editing the 'Choose which folders to appear on Start' requires a fair bit of registry editing so probably not worth it at the moment.

 

Hope this helps : )

Highlighted

Okay, so I resorted to plan B; install WS2019 core inside a Windows 10 Hyper-V host and use the Windows 10 machine as the GUI for WS2019 through RSAT, etc. however it would seem that Windows Deployment Server doesn't work in the core edition.

 

Back to square one. As much as I like the new features in WS2019, WS2016 has far less bugs and will be serving as my main server OS until MS sorts out WS2019.

Highlighted

Same - domain joined 2019 server.  Even tried resetting the permissions/owner on the profile folder.

 

No luck :\

Highlighted

It would seem that Microsoft won't even acknowledge that this is an issue. Start menu customisation is basic Windows functionality - regardless of it being a server OS, there is a need to change it from the default. I can't use the Feedback Hub app to report this as our domain joined workstations have had this feature disabled. I'm just happy I opted to "try before you buy"

Highlighted
After Windows Server 2019 is released for 2nd time - does anyone checked if the start still cannot be changed permanently?
Highlighted

Yes, but with the same issue, additionally in every installation-mode if the machine is domainjoined or not. there ist no workarround for this???!!!

 

Highlighted
I think this issue seems to be being ignored. Whilst this issue will not impact a normal server deployment anyone using the server as a Citrix VDA or RDS Session host will not be able to without having no changes to the default start menu an option that is not possible for the majority of us.
Highlighted

Appears to have been (silently) resolved with 2018-12 Cumulative Update for Windows Server 2019 for x64-based Systems (KB4471332).  Applied to a non-domain joined server, and Start Menu items are where I left 'em, and the 'new' flag on icons stays away once you right click Start Menu items.

 

Not tested on a domain-joined server, so if you wanna test that and report back, knock yer socks off.

 

https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=2018-12

 

 

Highlighted

Hi Chris,

 

Great, will have a test and check it all out in a domain joined setup and report back when possible.

Highlighted

In a remarkable twist of events, my custom start menu has survived a restart! However, I customised the start menu before promoting the server to a DC. After promotion, the layout still cannot be changed. I should point out that I made the initial changes to the local admin account. After promotion, a new domain admin account (and user profile) was created. I changed the ProfileImagePath registry entry to point to the original local admin profile (therefore retaining any customisation) therefore deleting the new user profile.

 

Edit: I spoke too soon. The start menu is broken again - the custom layout is gone. UnbelievableUntitled-2.png

Highlighted

I have 3 test 2019 servers in a domain all upgraded from 2016, one DC and two member servers, none of them are free of problems.

 

The DC still has this issue no matter what I do, latest updates, recreating profiles, the start menu always reverts to default. The two member servers are fine, although until this week their Windows Explorer would not display correctly when setting apps to "dark mode", they'd have white backgrounds for the address bars and context menus making them unreadable. Reseting the theme to default has fixed that.

Highlighted

Hi Chris, 

 

Nope still an issue after applying the KB 

Highlighted

I experienced the same, but the problem began not when I joined the machine to the domain but when I activated the License (no KMS installed in this environment). At this point, the system allows to change the design-settings (by design) and puts the start menu to default (by bug)

 

Anybody a clue?

Highlighted

Hi Chrigel,

 

I experienced the same issues.

 

Furthermore I'm not able to license any Windows Server 2019 via VLSC license keys (MAK activation).

 

Windows Server 2019 Evaluation media isn't available in the evaluation center. Seems like this will become a real nice server OS...

 

Greets

 

Tobi

 

 

Highlighted

Ran into the same problem for activating MAK keys in 2019.  You have to use command prompt to install the MAK keys right now. 

 

uninstall current product key - slmgr /upk

install new product key - slmgr /ipk <Product Key>

activate new key - slmgr /ato

 

I also found that putting the MAK product key in an unattend.xml file for sysprep does take and and activate.

Highlighted
Same problem here, fully patched (2019-01-15) and activated WS2019 lets me change the items pinned to the Start menu but it gets reverted on logoff if the machine is in the domain.
Highlighted

Hey everybody!

 

I'm experiencing the same problem. Any news on this?

Or maybe a response from MS?

 

Highlighted
Hi Pete, I tested the issue again with a fresh installed, domain joined Windows Server 2019 with January patch level. The issue still exists.
Highlighted

I am honestly baffled that an error so central to the core operation of Windows has STILL not been publicly acknowledged by Microsoft - in my situation, it has rendered my WS2019 lab VM's useless

Highlighted

I totally agree.

Highlighted
I am with you, I wander if it is wise to us Windows 2019 Server in a production enviroment
Highlighted

Me too

Highlighted

Same here as of 2/27/2019.  Fully patched windows server 2019 standard.

Highlighted

i got told, the adminsitrator account is somehow a temporary profile which gets reset by logging out. This can be disabled somehow by policy. But hadn't time to look at it.

 

 

Highlighted

 


@robb-flx wrote:

i got told, the adminsitrator account is somehow a temporary profile which gets reset by logging out. This can be disabled somehow by policy. But hadn't time to look at it.

 

 


Couldn't find anything on that but would be glad if the problem could be resolved so easily. Please look it up when you have the time. thx.

Highlighted
Ty this one:
>> Use the group policy setting "Do not log users on with temporary profiles", to be found in >> Computer Configuration -> Policies -> Administrative Templates-> System -> User Profiles.
Highlighted

I've made the change and will see if it works later, because in my case any change is not instantly lost. If I log-in, make a change, log off then immediately log back on the change remains. I can do this a few times within a short space of time and the change is still there. It's only later in the day when I log on that the change is finally reset.


@robb-flx wrote:
Ty this one:
>> Use the group policy setting "Do not log users on with temporary profiles", to be found in >> Computer Configuration -> Policies -> Administrative Templates-> System -> User Profiles.

 

Highlighted

Will try, thanks!

 

From my understanding the policy prevents a temporary profile from being loaded in case the regular one can't be loaded. I didn't find any hint on that in the system logs.

 

Update:

Nope, still doesn't work. I'm definetely not logged on with a temproary profile since shortcuts I pin to the taskbar remain intact.

 

Thanks anyway!

Highlighted

@Pete78 

 

It seems like a long shot, but we had similar issues with our Startlayout on Win 10 1809. When the Policy "Computer Configuration -> Administrative Policies -> System -> Group Policy -> Continue Experiences on this Device" is set to disabled, everything relating to the start menu is buggy. (Layout, recent apps, Show Start in Full Screen, etc.).

 

Could you try setting this Policy to "Enabled" or "not configured" and see if this works?

Highlighted
You can reproduce problem without logging off - simply restart Explorer, using Task Manager. So, I think this problem is not related to the user profile. Moreover, desktop settings are saved between sessions.
Highlighted

@makbeth 

 

I have tried your help. But I can't personaliz my Start page. If I go to "Windows Settings" and "Personalization", "Start", and set "Use Start full screen" to ON it dosn't work. It works OK before

promotion server to Domain Controller. After that, it can't be done. It is the same for many other

functions under "Windows Settings. Is there some special settings for Windows Server 2019?

Highlighted

@Aurel Schwitter 

 

Tried that but it didn't work. All changes are lost when loggin off and on again. Also any changes I make in the stat menu settings are gone as soon as I go back there.

 

Highlighted

I am experiencing this problem as well.

Highlighted

@Cooper Beutel 

If you add any file to the "c:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu" folder (or in user profile Start Menu folder), it will cause the start menu to be updated. But this is a bug.

Highlighted

It is my understanding that a fix is coming and should be out this month. I will update you with the KB # once it is live. Thanks for your patience.

Highlighted
Solution

https://support.microsoft.com/help/4490481 - the KB doesn't specifically mention this bug, but the fix is included in this update. You can download from here: Microsoft Catalog  

Highlighted

That fixed it. Thanks!

Highlighted

@Mary Hoffman 

I do not confirm. If UPD enabled, fix does not workmstsc_QsocKFEIlW.png

Highlighted

2019-03 Cumulative Update for Windows Server 2019 (1809) for x64-based Systems (KB4490481) is being offered through Windows Update as of today. It requires a reboot. Start Menu changes survive sign off / sign on afterwards.

Highlighted

@Mary Hoffman

Worked for me as well, thanks for the update!

Highlighted

@InVerter 

Did you try the workaround Marc Conroy posted at 10-15-2018 04:09 PM?

You'll have to revert the changes to the group policies for the update to have an effect on the start menu.



 

Highlighted

@Mary Hoffman 

 

Hi Mary, 

 

I have been doing some testing in various scenarios, if you modify a user that has a local profile to the server then the advised KB does work if the profile roams with the local one being deleted this does not work and still has the same issue. In other scenarios using Citrix Profile Management or Citrix WEM then the issue is still present I have not tested this within just an RDS environment using profile disks however I imagine this will have the same issue as it still happens when the profile is located elsewhere and/or if the local cached profile is removed them streamed back to the server. 

 

Regards Chris

Highlighted

@InVerter   Using UPD is also a different scenario. The fix may not apply to your problem.  It may be time to contact support at https://support.microsoft.com/en-us

Highlighted

Microsoft seem to have fixed this in the last round of updates.

The Start Menu on our 2019 Server (DC) is now working perfectly, when it was displaying the exact same symptoms as yours before and on every reboot / login.

Related Conversations
Menu not displaying thumbnails
Jez_Fernandez in Sway on
0 Replies
Feature Request: Add Delete option to Downloads
Eric Hebert in Discussions on
4 Replies
Combine data from multiple rows into a single row
Mccone in Excel on
1 Replies
Intranet Site Structure with Hub Sites
Charisma Riley in SharePoint on
6 Replies
SharePoint Modern Page custom column layouts
Lance Alcabasa in SharePoint on
3 Replies