Anyone know whether there will be a Hyper-V Server 2022? i.e. the free version which is just for running VMs and has no GUI?
I've seen mentions on forums that this SKU is being dropped, but not found anything official.
Thanks
Aug 16 2021 08:28 AM
Anyone know whether there will be a Hyper-V Server 2022? i.e. the free version which is just for running VMs and has no GUI?
I've seen mentions on forums that this SKU is being dropped, but not found anything official.
Thanks
Sep 10 2021 07:08 AM
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Sep 24 2021 10:15 AM
The Windows Server which is required for the Hyper-V Feature is licensed by core. This is true for 2016, 2019 and 2022.
Sep 24 2021 10:19 AM - edited Sep 24 2021 10:23 AM
> Hyper-V also exists as a dedicated operating system.
The Operating System is called Microsoft „Hyper-V Server 2016“ (or 2019). Thats (confusingly) similar but not the same. it is different from Hyper-V the technology or the Hyper-V Role. (It is for that reason a good idea to always qualify by using the full name).
Sep 24 2021 10:21 AM
Sep 24 2021 01:32 PM
Think you've misunderstood what is being discussed here - this isn't about running Hyper-V on the Standard/Datacenter versions of Windows Server (which as you say are licensed by core).
It is about Hyper-V Server, which is a separate SKU with its own installation media. It is free, but any Windows workloads on it have to be licensed as it does not include any licenses for clients. Hyper-V Server is very similar to a server core installation with the Hyper-V role installed (other roles are not permitted under the licensing terms).
Hyper-V Server appeared when Hyper-V itself did (2008?), and since then every release of Windows Server has had a corresponding version of Hyper-V Server - up to 2019, that is. As we have been told above, there will not be a 2022 version.
Azure Stack HCI is similar in many ways, but has paid-for subscription requirements for all client VMs, and can only operate as a cluster, not a standalone host.
Sep 24 2021 02:01 PM - edited Sep 24 2021 02:07 PM
@DavidYorkshire I did not misunderstand, I was replying to a question asked in this comment:
So let's get this clear.
Will any Hypr-V or future releases have charges associated with CPU Cores on top of the Windows Licencing?
A nice simple question :)
so the pricing models for both OS which offer Hyper-V in the future are already core based and do not charge extra for their (core) function.
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Oct 05 2021 04:33 PM
Great feedback, thank you for taking the time to provide such detailed and constructive feedback. Education is also in this same category. We are thinking about it, no announcements at this time... but THANK YOU
Oct 07 2021 02:09 AM - edited Oct 07 2021 02:10 AM
You're welcome. I can see why Education would be in the same boat!
One other thing that I would add is the 'minimum two node per site' requirement for Azure Stack HCI also mitigates against using it in small, remote branch offices (again, a nonprofit may not have the space or cash to deploy two devices in a remote office and would just rely on redundant PSUs and resilient storage for basic failover) so while understanding this means less redundancy, would be good for Azure Stack HCI to be developed standalone as well.
Oct 15 2021 05:58 PM
For me, much of the relevant sentiment has already been captured by@MinkusMe, @Brian Martin and @PeterBetyounan (as another fellow Skippy).
This is (for me) entirely about the commercial impact, which doesn't sound like it's been particularly well mapped out to date beyond the US/European context - particularly in the fiscally tight spaces of charities, not-for-profits, some government agencies and education (which has already been acknowledged).
They observation I want to add is that we live in an age where people in these spaces are as inclined to pay for a hypervisor as they are for the air they breathe, and they will scatter like mice at the mention of a permanent operational cost increase. And if Azure AD is anything to go by, that'll only be the "admission price" with select features pared out and charged extra for - much like microtransactions in gaming.
For these clients, technical bells and whistles have precisely zero value as it's purely about avoiding the purchase of multiple physical hosts (even if they're just basic business-grade desktops acting as servers).
The value proposition in having Hyper-V server was that Microsoft was perceived to be providing value, which feeds directly into brand trust. Not just Microsoft's brand, but ours as proponents of Microsoft's (former?) strategy.
As a self-employed consultant and MAPS customer, I'm in a similar position to such clients and maybe I haven't read enough yet, but I'm not seeing how I can retain my zero cost model for the hypervisor (licencing-wise). If I can't see a way, I clearly can't recommend a way to my customers, either, as it's not unheard of for them to be more frugal with their budgets than I am!
For corporates and other profitable entities with the budget and scale to relegate the operational cost into the "don't care" bucket, the Azure Stack HCI is a great fit if they're already an Azure customer. But your "mum and dad" businesses, charitable organisations and the likes frequently don't fit that profile in any way you care to measure it.
Definitely interested in how this topic develops.
Oct 15 2021 08:44 PM
@Elden Christensen has there been any developments on this with respect to any changes of heart? We're planning next year and this is a big item on our overall infrastructure strategy planning for all managed systems we are responsible for. Migrating them all next year is the biggest item on our 2022 punch list which reminded me about this thread and I noticed there hasn't been anything further from MS on this pretty important topic.
I really don't want to switch platforms, but you are telling us all to effectively kick rocks with this puzzling move so.....
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