Internet Explorer 11 desktop app retirement FAQ
Published May 19 2021 08:55 AM 3.2M Views
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Update:
The retired, out-of-support Internet Explorer 11 desktop application has been permanently disabled through a Microsoft Edge update on certain versions of Windows 10.
Based on customer feedback, organizations will maintain control over when to remove IE11 UI elements from their devices.
Over the coming months a small subset of exceptional scenarios where IE11 is still accessible will be redirected to Edge, ensuring users access a supported and more secure Microsoft browser.

Editor's note: Questions in this FAQ will be added and/or updated over time to provide more detail. Updated/new questions are indicated below. Last updated: May 18, 2023.


The future of Internet Explorer ("IE") on Windows 10 is in Microsoft Edge. What does this mean for commercial organizations, IT admins, developers, and end users? Microsoft Edge brings you a faster, more secure, and more modern web experience than Internet Explorer. Also, Microsoft Edge with Internet Explorer mode ("IE mode"), is the only browser with built-in compatibility for legacy IE-based sites and apps.

As announced today, Microsoft Edge with IE mode is officially replacing the Internet Explorer 11 desktop application on Windows 10. As a result, the Internet Explorer 11 desktop application will go out of support and be retired on June 15, 2022 for certain versions of Windows 10.

Jump to: General information | How to prepare | Experience after retirement | Support and resources | Technical details


General information

When was the IE11 desktop application permanently disabled? (Updated:May 18, 2023)
The out-of-support Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) desktop application was permanently disabled on certain versions of Windows 10 on February 14, 2023 through a Microsoft Edge update. Note, this update will be rolled out over the span of a few days up to a week, as is standard for Microsoft Edge updates.

All remaining consumer and commercial devices that were not already redirected from IE11 to Microsoft Edge were redirected with the Microsoft Edge update. Users will be unable to reverse the change. Additionally, redirection from IE11 to Microsoft Edge will be included as part of all future Microsoft Edge updates.

Based on customer feedback, organizations will maintain control over determining the timing to remove IE11 UI elements from their devices, if they have not already done so. Note: IT teams can remove IE11 visual references on Windows 10 devices by using the Disable IE policy.

Additionally, over the coming months a small subset of exceptional scenarios where IE11 is still accessible will be redirected to Edge, ensuring users access a supported and more secure Microsoft browser. Details will be available in the Windows and Microsoft Edge release notes.

What can I do if my organization has been disrupted by the permanent disablement of the IE desktop application?

(Updated: February 14, 2023)

If you are experiencing issues related to IE disablement or with using Microsoft Edge with IE mode, please reach out to Microsoft as soon as possible through one of the following paths:

On which versions of Windows 10 is the IE11 desktop application out-of-support (and were impacted by IE11 disablement)? (Updated: February 14, 2023)

(In scope) The IE11 desktop application is retired and out-of-support, and has been permanently disabled on these versions of Windows 10:

  • Internet Explorer 11 desktop application delivered via the Semi-Annual Channel (SAC):
    • Windows 10 client SKUs
    • Windows 10 IoT
    • Windows 10 Enterprise Multi-Session

(Out of scope) The IE11 desktop application remain in-support on these versions of Windows 10:

  • Internet Explorer 11 desktop application on:
    • Windows 8.1 (note: Microsoft Edge version 109 will be the last supported version on Window 8.1 - learn more)
    • Windows 7 Extended Security Updates (ESU) (note: Microsoft Edge version 109 will be the last supported version on Windows 7 - learn more)
    • Windows Server SAC (all versions)
    • Windows 10 IoT Long-Term Servicing Channel (LTSC) (all versions)
    • Windows Server LTSC (all versions)
    • Windows 10 client LTSC (all versions)
    • Windows 10 China Government Edition

The following also remain in-support:

  • Internet Explorer mode in Microsoft Edge
  • Internet Explorer platform (MSHTML/Trident), including WebOC and COM automation

What about Windows 10 LTSC and Windows Server? (Updated: November 19, 2021)
In-market Windows 10 LTSC and Windows Server are out of scope (unaffected) for this change. Windows Server 2022 and Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2021 are also out of scope.

Should I just uninstall Internet Explorer completely? (Updated: December 16, 2022)
No. Internet Explorer (IE) mode relies on Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to function. Uninstalling or removing IE11 will cause IE mode to no longer work.

Is the Internet Explorer 11 desktop application available on Windows 11? (Updated: April 14, 2022)
No, the Internet Explorer 11 desktop application is not available on Windows 11. Microsoft Edge is the default browser for Windows 11. The MSHTML engine exists as part of the Windows 11 operating system to power IE mode in Microsoft Edge. If your organization has legacy browser dependencies, you'll need to set up IE mode in Microsoft Edge before upgrading to Windows 11 to avoid business disruption. Learn more on our Internet Explorer mode webpage and read the Getting Started guide.

What does this announcement mean for my organization? (Updated: February 14, 2023)
The retired, out-of-support Internet Explorer 11 desktop application has been permanently disabled through a Microsoft Edge update on certain versions of Windows 10 and will redirect to Microsoft Edge if a user tries to access it.

You may be concerned about change management, so please check out the Internet Explorer Retirement Adoption Kit for ready-made content to help you notify users and leaders in your organization about the changes and help move them to Microsoft Edge.

What if Microsoft Edge is already installed?
Great! You already have a faster, more secure, and more modern browser than Internet Explorer and have completed some of the steps to help with your migration. If you're an organization, the next steps will be to determine if your organization has legacy browser dependencies. To enable legacy browser support in Microsoft Edge, you'll need to set up Internet Explorer mode. Learn more on our Internet Explorer mode webpage and read the Getting Started guide.

How long will IE mode be supported? (Updated: November 8, 2022)
Support for IE mode follows the lifecycle of current and future Windows client, Windows server, and Windows IoT releases (including Windows 11) at least through 2029. Additionally, Microsoft will give one year of notice before retiring the IE mode experience when the time comes. Windows support dates are documented on the Product Lifecycle page. Some editions of Windows may require an ESU license, if available, to receive operating system security updates beyond end of support dates.

If support for a version of Windows ends before 2029, support for IE mode on that version of Windows ends as well. To continue using IE mode, please migrate to a supported version of Windows.

What does this announcement mean for developers? (Updated: November 19, 2021)
Websites developed for IE should work in Microsoft Edge through IE mode. If you encounter an issue, contact App Assure for remediation assistance (ACHELP@microsoft.com).

For developers working on modern websites or applications, we understand that it has been increasingly difficult to support Internet Explorer side-by-side with modern browsers. While this announcement will start the transition of moving users from Internet Explorer to the more modern Microsoft Edge browser, it will take time and we recommend that you develop a plan to end support for Internet Explorer. Read this Moving users to Microsoft Edge from Internet Explorer article to learn how we can help.

What does this announcement mean for end users? (Updated: February 14, 2023)
With a growing number of websites no longer supporting Internet Explorer, Microsoft Edge offers a faster, more secure, and more modern browsing experience that can still open legacy, Internet Explorer-dependent sites when needed.

The retired, out-of-support Internet Explorer 11 desktop application has been permanently disabled through a Microsoft Edge update on certain versions of Windows 10 and will redirect to Microsoft Edge if a user tries to access it.

Where can I find more information on the upcoming changes that will address exceptional scenarios where IE is still available? (New: May 18, 2023)
Details will be available in the Windows and Microsoft Edge release notes.


How to prepare

I don't want to wait for my devices to be redirected by Microsoft Edge; instead, I'd like to control redirection for all my devices. What can I do today? (Updated: December 16, 2022)
The most important action you can take to prepare for February 14, 2023, is to ensure that Microsoft Edge with IE mode is set up within your organization and that you've eliminated any dependencies on the IE11 desktop application. If you would like to permanently disable the IE11 desktop application today instead of waiting for the Microsoft Edge update scheduled for February 14, 2023, you can use the Disable IE Policy.

How can I be sure I have all my sites on my IE mode site list and that everything is set up properly? (New: July 28, 2022)
Once you've set up IE mode for your organization, the best way for you to understand if there are any potential gaps in your IE mode site list is to test IE mode with your users as they work normally. This is the process followed by our customers who have already successfully transitioned from IE to Microsoft Edge with IE mode.

We recommend instructing a subset of users to test Microsoft Edge with IE mode as they work and providing them with a tool to give you feedback if they encounter any issues. Once you've worked through any issues, deploy the Disable IE Policy to permanently disable IE for those users. After, you can gradually test IE mode and push the Disable IE Policy to more devices using the same methodology until all your users are transitioned off IE.

How do I set up Internet Explorer mode in my organization?
You can get detailed guidance on how to set up Internet Explorer mode through our Getting Started guide or by visiting our IE mode documentation.

Are there any guided experiences available to help me deploy Microsoft Edge and configure IE mode? (New: June 29, 2021)
Yes, we have two guided experiences available in the Microsoft 365 admin center to help you deploy Microsoft Edge and configure IE mode.

How can I automate IE mode testing in Microsoft Edge? (New: February 22, 2022)
With IE11 retirement fast approaching, Microsoft has collaborated with Selenium to extend end-to-end IE Driver testing to include IE mode in Microsoft Edge. You can now take the same tests you've invested in and used for site testing across versions of IE and apply them for testing in IE mode. Running automated testing, combined with testing through a pilot group of users, can catch issues early and can help make sure you're ready for IE retirement.

For more information about how IE Driver can be used for IE mode testing, see Use Internet Explorer Driver to automate IE mode in Microsoft Edge.

Could I skip monthly cumulative security Windows Updates to keep using IE11? (Updated: February 14, 2023)
We do not recommend avoiding or skipping Microsoft Edge updates to keep IE11. Security updates and servicing updates are only available on the latest Stable and Beta channel releases. If you use older releases of Microsoft Edge, it's likely that you'll miss the latest quality and security updates. For more information, see Microsoft Edge Lifecycle.


Experience after retirement

When will the IE11 desktop application be permanently disabled? (Updated: May 18, 2023)
The retired, out-of-support Internet Explorer 11 desktop application has been permanently disabled through a Microsoft Edge update on certain versions of Windows 10.

Users will see a dialogue box when they are transitioned to Microsoft Edge (see below). When they try to click any IE11 icons or other entry points, they will be redirected to Microsoft Edge. Their browsing data is automatically brought over to Microsoft Edge from IE11 so they can seamlessly continue browsing.

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Based on customer feedback, organizations will maintain control over determining the timing to remove IE11 UI elements from their devices, if they have not already done so. Note: IT teams can remove IE11 visual references on Windows 10 devices by using the Disable IE policy.

Additionally, over the coming months a small subset of exceptional scenarios where IE11 is still accessible will be redirected to Edge, ensuring users access a supported and more secure Microsoft browser. Details will be available in the Windows and Microsoft Edge release notes.

What is the user experience for redirection and disablement of IE11? (New: February 17, 2023)
To learn about the experience of a user being redirected from IE11 to Microsoft Edge, watch this video:

When will the Internet Explorer 11 desktop application retire on versions of Windows that were out of scope for the IE retirement on June 15th, 2022 (such as LTSC and Server)? (New: July 28, 2022)
Support for IE11 on out-of-scope versions of Windows will follow the lifecycle for the versions of Windows that they are on—once those versions of Windows go out of support, so will support for IE on those versions of Windows.

If my browser default isn't Internet Explorer 11, will the retirement affect my browser default?
No, this retirement will only change your browser default if your default had been set to Internet Explorer 11. If IE11 is set as your browser default, you will now have Microsoft Edge.

Will the Internet Explorer 11 desktop application be removed from devices? (Updated: June 13, 2022)
No, the IE11 desktop application will only be disabled. The IE11 desktop application will not be removed from devices, as the IE11 engine is required for IE mode to function.

Will iexplore.exe be removed from devices?
No, but if a user tries to access it, they will be unable to open IE11 and will be redirected to Microsoft Edge.

Will the Policy Setting "Disable Internet Explorer 11 as a standalone browser" continue to work after the Microsoft Edge update containing the permanent disablement of IE11 on February 14, 2023? (Updated: May 18, 2023)
The Disable IE policy will not be impacted by the February 14, 2023 Microsoft Edge update. It will continue to work and will remove IE visual references.


Support and resources

Where can I read all the blogs in IE to Edge series? (New: May 25, 2022)
You can read all the blogs written for the IE to Edge blog series at https://aka.ms/IEtoEdge.

Are there any changes to the Microsoft Edge lifecycle?
There are no changes to the Microsoft Edge lifecycle. Microsoft Edge continues to be supported. For more details, please visit the Microsoft Edge Lifecycle page.

What if some of my sites don't work in Microsoft Edge using Internet Explorer mode? How do I get help for website compatibility issues?
If you're an organization and experience compatibility issues such as an error loading a site, please connect with the App Assure team for remediation assistance. You can submit a request for assistance through their website or reach out via email (ACHELP@microsoft.com).

If you're a consumer at home and encounter an error loading a page, try loading it in IE mode by following the instructions in this Internet Explorer mode in Microsoft Edge support article. If the issue persists, please notify us by sending feedback through the in-product feedback tool found in the three-dot settings menu under 'Help and feedback' or by using the shortcut Alt + Shift + I. When submitting feedback, please check the box to 'Send diagnostic data'.

Where can I see a roadmap of upcoming Microsoft Edge features, including those related to IE mode? (New: June 29, 2021)
You can find the Microsoft Edge roadmap as part of the Microsoft 365 roadmap.

Where can I get help with common issues when setting up Microsoft Edge or Internet Explorer mode? Is there a Troubleshooting Guide? (New: February 22, 2022)
If you encounter an issue when setting up IE mode, you can reference this Troubleshooting Guide. It provides troubleshooting tips for common issues (like using incorrect Doc modes and not setting neutral sites) in addition to more general IE mode FAQs.

Supporting IE mode through at least 2029 is not long enough. Can I get an extension?
IE mode will continue to be supported through at least 2029 and Microsoft will give one year notice before deprecating the IE mode experience in-market when the time comes.

The new Cloud Site List Management experience will enable IT to store site lists in an authenticated endpoint in the cloud instead of requiring on-premises infrastructure to host it. You can create, import, and export site lists, as well as audit changes to site list entries through the Microsoft 365 admin center. Multiple site lists can be published to the cloud and group policy can be used to assign different groups of devices to use different lists.


Technical details

What is the MSHTML (Trident) engine? How does that relate to IE mode? And what about WebOC? Or the MSHTA app?
The MSHTML (Trident) engine is the underlying platform for Internet Explorer 11. This is the same engine used by IE mode and it will continue to be supported (in other words, unaffected by this announcement). Both WebOC and the MSHTA app will continue to be supported as they rely on the MSHTML engine which is unaffected by this announcement. If you have a custom or third-party app that relies on the MSHTML platform, you can expect it to continue to work. For future app development, we recommend using WebView2.

I ran into issues with my application which utilizes IE through automation. Will this be fixed? (Updated: May 25, 2022)
As part of the IE 11 application retirement, certain COM automation scenarios were inadvertently broken. These IE COM objects have been restored to their original functionality as of the Windows 11 November 2021 non-security preview release and the Windows 10 February 2022 monthly security update release (for versions 1809 and later). The COM scenarios will also continue to work after the IE11 desktop application is disabled after June 15, 2022. If you continue to experience issues after taking the update, please contact App Assure for remediation assistance.

What IE functionality is available in IE mode? Will Active X controls like Java and Silverlight be supported? (Updated: June 3, 2021)
IE mode supports all document and enterprise modes, Active X controls (such as Java or Silverlight), and more. For a list of what is supported and what is not supported, see the What is Internet Explorer (IE) mode Docs page.

As previously announced, Silverlight support ends on October 12, 2021. Please see the Silverlight End of Support article for more details.

Will the IE Group Policies work in IE mode?
We are committed to have IE Group Policies work in IE mode. If for any reason you encounter an issue, please connect with us at AppAssure for assistance. You can submit a request for assistance through their website or reach out via email (ACHELP@microsoft.com).

Can I host my site list in the cloud? What is the Cloud Site List Management experience for IE mode? (New: November 19, 2021)
Yes, the Cloud Site List Management experience is now available as a Public Preview within the Microsoft 365 admin center.

.mht and .mhtml files open in Internet Explorer 11 and not in Microsoft Edge. How will I be able to open those? (New: June 29, 2021)
.mht and .mhtml file support in Microsoft Edge and IE mode is planned for Microsoft Edge version 92. Please see the Microsoft 365 roadmap entry for more details. Please note that for these files to open in IE mode, IE11 must be set as the default handler for this file type.

Since IE binaries are required for IE mode and will remain on the OS, will they continue to receive security updates? (New: February 22, 2022)
Yes, since IE mode leverages IE binaries, those IE binaries will continue to receive security updates through at least 2029 even after the IE11 desktop application retires and goes out of support on June 15, 2022, on certain versions of Windows 10. Security vulnerabilities that meet MSRC guidelines will continue to be patched just as it does today.

Can cookies share session information between Microsoft Edge (Chromium-based) and IE mode (MSHTML-based) sessions? (Updated: June 13, 2022)
Yes! Previously, session-cookies in IE mode passed session information from sites using the modern engine to sites using the legacy engine, but the same couldn't be said for the reverse. To address this issue, Microsoft Edge with IE mode now allows you to manually set session-cookies to share in both directions—from modern to legacy and vice versa—to create a better experience for your users and to support using a mix of modern and legacy sites as part of your gradual modernization efforts (Windows March 2022 3B update or later and Microsoft Edge version 99 or later, required).

Please note, that persistent-cookies, which have been created with an Expires-attribute, cannot be shared between Microsoft Edge and Internet Explorer.

 

257 Comments
Brass Contributor

Thank you for the link - it very informative - but it doesn't speak to my particular pain point.   I want to know what Microsoft is going to do (because they have done nothing so far), to support Outlook the program's View In Browser functionality.   

 

Neither Chrome nor Firefox does so and Edge renders the page as plain text (which is actually quite new; util a month or three ago your choice for .mht and .mhtml files were IE or a paid third party app).

Microsoft

@JamesEpp 

Thank you for your question about this! 

For the IE 11 desktop application on platforms affected by this announcement, the intent of the policy has stayed the same, but the specific component supported in the Lifecycle Policy has changed. Previously, the component supported was Internet Explorer, the browser application. Because the future of Internet Explorer is now in Microsoft Edge with the Internet Explorer mode feature, the component that is now supported is Internet Explorer mode.

IE mode support follows the previous policy statement and matches the same support timeframe outlined for the Internet Explorer browser application. IE mode will remain supported through at least 2029, following the lifecycle policy for the product (Windows operating system) on which it was installed.

Brass Contributor

This is NOT a responsive answer because it does not address my - and many others - issue:  View in Browser in Outlook 365 (the program, not the web client).   Every article I've seen about the retirement of IE and IE mode in Edge is all about "organizations that still need Internet Explorer 11 for backward compatibility with existing websites" (What is Internet Explorer mode? | Microsoft Docs).   Outlook is NEVER mentioned.

 

Outlook is not a website; it is a program that Microsoft has published since 2000, if not older.   This entire time, Outlook's "View in Browser" function has been serviced with IE up to Apriil updates.   When I attempt to view a message in a browser now, I get the message in HTML or something that looks very much like it.  There are no images and no live links.  This is not a suitable replacement.

 

When - if ever - is Microsoft going to get off its butt and address this void in Outlook???

Brass Contributor

It turns out Microsoft has adjusted its butt a little bit on this matter.   If your machine has the May updates (to 20H2, older ones not tested) and it is not a domain member, View In Brower does open Edge in IE mode and displays the message correctly.

 

If your machine is a domain member, you're still screwed, apparently on purpose.  I found several references that say this new functionality is not available to domain member computers but not any suggestion as to why.

@Eric_VanAelstyn @MHCLV941 @Susan Bradley @JJ Cadiz 

Hi Susan, have heard anything about the mention of Outlook open in Browser with Edge along the Patch Management Group?

I have flagged the circumstances months ago of Outlook unfortunately using mht not htm(l) for this purpose when I talked with @Sean Lyndersay about the missing in-built mht support of Edge and this issue

when Edge is the default browser. It was clear it wouldn't come into Edge natively. 

 

I wonder why non ADDJ devices would behave differently to workgroup devices.

While I understand that enterprise mode

 

JJ Cadiz are you aware if this something that's actively under investigation between the PGs of Outlook, Windows and Edge? 

I don't recall the discussion on the list.

Microsoft

Hey folks

@Eric_VanAelstyn provided an update on the MHT support question in the FAQ a couple weeks ago. Please check out his response here:

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/windows-it-pro-blog/internet-explorer-11-desktop-app-retireme... 

Copper Contributor

Hi,

 

How the windows update for disable IE will be deployed for 20H2 or 21H2 for exemple. It will be a single KB?

Copper Contributor

I hope Microsoft will reconsider disabling IE11 desktop application on June 15, 2022 on version 20H2 and 21H1. (edited)

They previously announced IE11 would be supported with any Windows 10 version that provides the IE11 desktop application.

-- IE11 will work on version 20H1 permanently but that version's support will end December 14, 2021

-- IE11 will work on version 20H2 and 21H1 but will be disabled on June 15, 2022.

 

This latest announcement moves the IE kill clock way up from December 13, 2022 to December 14, 2021 for 20H1.

Copper Contributor

Edge only syncs bookmarks and preferences to the roaming user profile in a on-premise Windows domain. With the Internet Explorer this problem was not present. Are there any plans to change this now that this announcement was made?

 

There was a case where Microsoft said they are *not* going to change this:  https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/enterprise/roamingprofilesupportenabled-referred-to-in-other-...

And this behavior is documented in here:  https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/DeployEdge/microsoft-edge-on-premises-sync#how-it-works

 

So in Edge Microsoft should also sync the following to the roaming user profile:

- passwords

- addressesAndMore

- extensions

- history

- openTabs

- collections

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Hello everyone!

It must be said that the end of IE is a necessity, which affects a lot of functionality - which provides the new Edge!

It may be an extra job for your organization, but safety is paramount!

End users can only be pleased that IE is a thing of the past and already history! 

Brass Contributor

It must be said that the end of IE is a necessity, which affects a lot of functionality - which provides the new Edge!

It may be an extra job for your organization, but safety is paramount!

End users can only be pleased that IE is a thing of the past and already history! 

 

Well, we've now heard from the fanboys.   I trust you were compensated handsomely for this unbiased shill for Microsoft and blatant disrespect for the professionals who are trying to live with Microsoft's flippant disregard for the amount of work they are forcing on its customers.

 

Edge is NOT a replacement for IE because there is a laundry list of things it cannot do.  If Microsoft were as smart as it claims to be, Edge would slip smoothly and transparently in place of IE and would not requires major changes to how end users get their jobs done.

 

As for those end users, they most assuredly will not be pleased with being forced into different and not clearly better and easier ways of getting their work done.

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It is out of respect for professionals that Microsoft makes changes!

IT is a continuous work - the easiest way would be to leave everything unchanged only that competing companies do the same because it forces the IT market!

And IE is a backlink Microsoft product that was modern in 2010!

 

Brass Contributor

It is out of respect for professionals that Microsoft makes changes!

 

Ka-ching!  Another check from Microsoft headed your way.  That is the LAST reason why Microsoft makes changes.

 

IT is a continuous work.   

 

I never knew that.  Thanks for sharing!  NOT!!   

 

The easiest way would be to leave everything unchanged 

 

No, the easiest way would be for Microsoft to work IE's functionality into Edge instead of requiring users to spend hours of time learning different and not perceptibly better or easier ways to do the same thing they've been doing to get their jobs done.

 

And IE is a backlink Microsoft product that was modern in 2010!

 

Indeed.  One that should have been addressed not later than when Windows 10 came out. just under 6 years ago.  If Microsoft had done so, the vast majority of issues doing so today is causing.  It's not as if Microsoft did not know IE was fatally flawed years ago.  2½ years ago Microsoft publically advised people to stop using it because it is inherently insecure.   Such an announcement is not the work of a moment, so it clear that Microsoft knew IE was a problem well before February 2019.

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@MHCLV941

 

 


Thank you very much for your reply!

Good luck Andrew.

Microsoft

@MHCLV941 I wanted to follow up on your early question about .mht files. This has been added to the roadmap and will land with Edge 92 in late July. You can see it here (make sure that the "Rolling out" filter is selected). https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/roadmap?filters=Microsoft%20Edge%2CRolling%20out%2CIn%... 

Best,

Eric

Brass Contributor

eric_vanaelstyn Microsoft:  Thank you!

 

From the article you reference (enough people [including me] have been trying enough workarounds, it seems helpful to emphasize IE must be the default handler for these file types.

 

Starting in Microsoft Edge version 92, MHTML file types will automatically open in Internet Explorer mode on Microsoft Edge instead of the Internet Explorer (IE11) application. This is most commonly observed while trying to view Outlook emails in a browser. This change will occur only if IE11 is the default handler for this file type.



Microsoft

@MHCLV941 You're welcome! We appreciate your patience. We plan to add this to the FAQ as well and will make sure the context you highlight is clearly spelled out.

@gmpotu 

One of our EDU Eng contacts made a quick video for you to show how to embed a video in PowerPoint online on Edge. This is in response to your question below. Check it out: https://shorts.flipgrid.com/watch/18331412022166018

 
Your question was: What is the current plan for using PowerPoint to embed videos? Currently PowerPoint requires IE11 enabled to embed videos directly into PowerPoint. Our school uses this feature a lot and we're interested in how it will function after this change. 

Copper Contributor

Currently, we use the OLE Control "Shell.Explorer.1"

Will this continue to be supported and for how long?

Copper Contributor

Hi Team,

 

We are runnung our ASP.net application in IE 7 mode from decades, and now we are trying to migrate Edge because of end of life of IE browser.

 

But i saw ActiveX is undefined when i run my application Edge browser,So we need a help for IE mode in Edge browser.

 

Thanks,

Tarun.

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Copper Contributor

What about View in File Explorer function? That feature really helps in terms of collaboration since the sync option is not reliable i.e you update changes but your team members are not getting the changes.

Copper Contributor

I have just installed the Windows 11 Preview and see MSHTA.EXE is present, and my hypertext application starts up and runs. What a relief!

Copper Contributor

... whereas I cannot enable Internet Explorer Mode in Edge under Windows 11 Home 21H2 (build 22000.51) because Edge is not selectable as default browser in the settings menu.

Copper Contributor

... as a workaround, I can open selected web pages in Internet Explorer Mode under Windows 11 using the preview function of Chami's HTML-Kit Editor.

Copper Contributor

... much better, there are multiple Trident-based web browsers like Avant that can replace Internet Explorer under Windows 11.

Copper Contributor

... which makes the retirement senseless.

Copper Contributor

Mi única duda es: que ocurrirá con los sitios que utilizaban la opción de Vista de Compatibilidad en Internet Explorer, en mi caso soy empresa y utilizo algunos y en Edge no están funcionando aun con el modo IE activado

Microsoft

Hi All,

 we heard that VB client side scripwill not work in modern browsers. we have the inline code written in VB language with server side tags in .aspx pages.

Will that code will work in modern browsers as the code written in server side tags as per below code, it should be executed at IIS level.

 

Could you please let us know server side code with vb language code will work in modern browsers or not?

 


<%
' If GPLocale is set, we redirect as usual. If it's not set, we need
' to run the client-side script at the bottom of the page to set the
' cookie, and then come back here with the original URL.
If Not Request.Cookies("GPLocale") Is Nothing Then
If Request.Cookies("GPLocale").Value <> DF.EMPTY_STR Then

Dim strCaseNum
Dim strOrderNum
Dim strCD
Dim currentQueryString
Dim queryString as QueryString

'currentQueryString should be appended to the redirect to RedirectLogic.aspx as pages are converted
'Pages should redirect to /MSInternal/RedirectLogic.aspx + currentQueryString which will session
'settings and redirection to the new page
'Note: Before a link is redirect make sure the approapriate logic is in RedirectLogic.aspx

currentQueryString = Request.QueryString.ToString()
queryString = new QueryString()

Response.Expires = 0

'Setup Session
'If OASIS UserID passed in, ensure that it matches current users
If Request.QueryString("OID") <> "" Then
Session("OASISUserID") = Request.QueryString("OID")
End If

If Request.QueryString("OD") <> "" Then
Session("OD") = Request.QueryString("OD")
End If

If Request.QueryString("CD") <> "" Then
Session("CD") = Request.QueryString("CD")
End If

If Request.QueryString("C") <> "" Then
Session("C") = Request.QueryString("C")
End If

If Request.QueryString("O") <> "" Then
Session("O") = Request.QueryString("O")
End If


%>

Microsoft

Hi @tarun823 ,

 

Thanks for your question! We recommend you reach out to our specialists at App Assure who can help to remediate the issue you describe. You can email them here: ACHELP@microsoft.com.

 

Copper Contributor

:lol:

Copper Contributor

After IE is retired/disabled, how can end users change IE-specific settings such as allowing ActiveX to be used in IE mode Edge? If the "internet options" will still be available in the Control Panel, that handles most of the settings but not "compatibility mode". It appears IE mode takes the compatibility level from IE.

Copper Contributor

I and many other Intuit Quickbooks users recently discovered without any warning at all that Microsoft has already disabled Internet Explorer during Windows Update users received sometime within past 30 - 45 days. Sadly, Intuit's Quickbooks Desktop software for every very up to their most current version still relies on Internet Explorer to open and run. Intuit has been totally unresponsive and now an unknown but likely huge number of users are dead in the water and can't access their Quickbooks software for their businesses.

It's absolutely infuriating and unthinkable that Microsoft would completely disable IE and block it from running at all NOW without any warning to end users after they promised this would not occur until full year later!

 

So know that I got that off my chest, can anyone point me to somewhere I can learn how to make my Quickbooks work again using Edge's IE Compatibility features? So far I can't find anything useful for end users to revive their apps dependent on IE.

Thank you.

Brass Contributor

The only irresponsibility is Intuit's complete failure to address the demise of Internet Explorer.  Microsoft has publicized the fact that IE was going away for more than a year.   Intuit has displayed a total disregard for the platform on which it runs and for the customers who depend on its product.  Feel free to be angry but direct it where it is merited - at Intuit.

Copper Contributor

I completely agree that Intuit has totally failed it's users and their users have made that clear to them. But Microsoft ending IE access a year earlier than they published is not ok either. Whether it's Intuit or some other organization who has apps that till need to be migrated, companies and users thought they had another year to complete that work and that all changed without any notice last month. Microsoft has published very little information to help users use Edges IE mode thus far and now people are having to scramble when they ended IE prematurely. 

 

My goal now, as is for many others, is to figure out a way to move forward given the state of things now. If anyone can help me and other users take advantage of Edges IE compatibility for Quickbooks, we would all appreciate the help doing so. 

 

Thank you.

Silver Contributor

MS has not disabled IE yet. It works fine on my personal machines and at work. Maybe you should look into what happened at your place. Maybe someone applied a GPO that disables IE or something.

Brass Contributor

Hmmm.  I have two clients who use Quickbooks (the program) with Windows 10 Pro.   All programs are current and fully patched/updated.  They don't seem to be having any problems - I would have heard!  :)

 

One is using Quickbooks Desktop Pro Plus 2021 Release R6P.   The other is using QuickBooks Enterprise Solutions: Manufacturing and Wholesale 21.0 Release R6P.

Microsoft

Hi @Mike_Vail ,

Thank you for reaching out about what you are experiencing with Quickbooks. So we can best help remediate this issue, please reach out to our compatibility specialists at App Assure. You can email them here: ACHELP@microsoft.com

 

We look forward to hearing from you to understand this issue better.

 

 

 

 

Copper Contributor

Thank you Eric! I will do this today! 

 

Warmest Regards sir,

Mike Vail

Copper Contributor

Thanks for the input. It appears the users with affected by this I've interacted with are standalone PC users and not business PC clients on a domain or at a workplace controlled by GP. All currently appear to my Windows 10 Home users.

 

@ MHCLV941

Thank you for sharing your experiences with your Quickbooks clients. It starting to look like not all users were affected by the lost of total loss of functionality of IE. Of the 3 Windows 10 Pro PCs I checked, none lost it. Of the 6 Windows 10 home PCs I checked, 3 lost it, 1 had not and 2 had not yet received the Windows 21H1 updates suspected of causing the issue. I ran the updates to the 2 PCs that needed it and they never lost the the use of IE. I looks like certain conditions must exist on the affected PCs or perhaps when the PCs received their updates affected them. I have seen some references to the timing of certain KBs being installed that may have something to do with it. Just thought I'd share what I learned in case you were interested.

 

Thanks again for sharing, it helped me to look deeper into the cause.

 

I have submitted a request for help through the email address listed above by Eric_VanAelstyn.

It would be great if it leads to a fix.

 

Take care and have a good week everyone,

Mike V.

Brass Contributor
Mike_Vail: 

 

I wonder if the key is the fact that your folks are on Windows 10 Home vice Pro?

 

I don't follow the differences between Pro and Home in detail, but I know there are some.   Given a reasonable assumption that Home users are consumers who don't have legacy apps, Microsoft may have deprecated (I love that word!) IE faster and/or differently in Home than it's doing in Pro.

 

Copper Contributor

I totally agree. It very much looks that way as of right now.

 

Have a good weekend.

Mike V.

Copper Contributor

Will Windows 11 have support for using the U.S. Savings Bond Calculator to save bond value results? Presently, since Windows 10, you can use the site to find your EE bonds worth but you cannot save the results to look at later with the values updated. I have not been able to find a workaround using two search engines.

Iron Contributor

Just to clarify:

 

  • Q: does this mean that when IE11 is retired there is no way to launch the UI based IE11 application and Edge chromium will launch?
Microsoft

@shocko Thanks for the question! That is correct. Once the IE11 desktop application is retired and disabled, if you try to access the IE11 desktop application you will be redirected to Edge Chromium.

Copper Contributor

ESTUPENDO WINDOS 11

Copper Contributor

Actuall the site Explore MS Public Home does not work in Edge native, but only in IE mode. Will there be an uptade on the page, so no IE mode will be necesarry?

@Eric_VanAelstyn we have found a critical limitation of IE mode. It does not support ActiveX.

 

This means it's impossible to leverage what it should do prevent users starting IE manually as a Browser which is now prevented on clients. 

 

 

 

Usecases 

1. Video surveillance apps using IE addins

2. Importing out of band updates to WSUS from Microsoft Update Catalog page (amount for this has clearly risen in 2021)

Fyi 

@Aria Carley 

Iron Contributor

FYI, I'm using my 15 year old security systems IE active-x control in IE Mode in Edge.  So that part, at least, works perfectly(it was our only use case at work)

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