Feb 06 2022 01:05 PM
Feb 06 2022 01:05 PM
Hi, I have learned that Microsoft has excluded all Intel processors prior to 8th generation from their current Windows 11 upgrade. While it is a great way to make millions of PC's obsolete, it is a pain for 1. the customer (who, like myself, has invested more than $1k for a machine which will be obsolete after 5 years and therefore is a bad investment), and 2. for the environment (if you want to avoid climate change you shouldn't dump millions of machines, probably having them burnt in the open air in some 3rd world country). Of course, Intel and PC builders like to sell new gear, however they are basically admitting that their designs weren't future-proof and sustainable from the outset. I feel that Microsoft and Intel should have a closer look at customer satisfaction before they take such a short-sighted decision which renders good hardware useless without much value added.
Feb 07 2022 03:59 AM - edited Feb 07 2022 04:40 AM
Hello, Windows10 will be supported until October 2025.
The exclusion of 7th generation Intel processors has been tested in the Insider program and by many independent institutions.
simply - the architecture of the processors and the possibility of failure was decisive.
Apr 17 2022 11:02 PM
H i @schrodinbug
Yes, after installing Windows11 - diagnostic data was automatically transmitted in the Insider Program, this allowed to evaluate and exclude incompatible processors (based on confirmed errors!) But also product development, requirements of programmers and partners (more demanding applications)
Jul 09 2022 05:12 AM
Jul 09 2022 05:30 AM
I just entered this community and saw your reply, now, there are many ways to upgrade to Windows 11 on the network, and since Microsoft has chosen the seventh generation of Intel as the demarcation, there is a certain reason that they may not want users who do not support it to force upgrade to Windows 11, after all, this is a completely new system"
Yes, of course, but there is information in advance, all IT companies force such changes to design a new computer and more secure applications, running faster and faster!
Jul 10 2022 10:01 PM
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Jul 30 2022 09:37 PM
Jul 31 2022 05:09 AM
" MS should have been way more transparent and open about older CPUs, and not this unsympathetic gatekeeper moral that elevate confusions and anger.."
Yes, I agree with you!
Microsoft did not decide about it -> it was the processor architecture that caused the exclusion , frustration of users with something normal.
Jul 31 2022 05:38 AM - edited Jul 31 2022 05:40 AM
I agree with you. In my case, I have used the hacks described on various websites about using Rufus to install an unrestricted version of Windows 11. It does not have access to the preview channel but it did accept my Windows 10 license, so there's that. I also managed to install all of my old, unsigned drivers so that my functioning Brother 5040 printer works, so that I didn't have to dump it into the landfill - at least not yet.
I am sure that everything will stop functioning at some point, and then I will graduate from my i7-3770 to maybe an i7 tenth generation. Anyway, I really think that creating all of this e-waste for an OS update is really gross. I depend on Microsoft products for what I do, so I am stuck. I do hope that MS stops telling the world that they are an environmentally friendly company, because this vulgarity demonstrates that they are not. If anyone is curious, here are the specs on my 10 y/o machine.
ASUS P8Z68 DELUXE
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz 3.40 GHz
Installed RAM 32.0 GB
Edition Windows 11 Pro Version 21H2
Installed on 4/25/2022
OS build 22000.832
Jul 31 2022 10:19 AM
I didn't mean to shout in Capital letters moron. I just used to using it that way. Anyway im not going to go down your level and purchase a high end machine. Guess what though? Windows 11 installed the normal way on my unsupported cpu through windows update. Thats amazing. I fresh installed windows 10 again because i couldn't belive it. And yes sir, i went to join beta program and boom got the windows 11 update installing and up in running on my unsupported cpu the recommended way without editing nothing. So stop telling people go purchase high end equipment and do us a favor, if you need to buy all of us with unsupported machine a newer more recent machine. Since you are being genius. Talking nonsence? Its what everyone has been b1tching about. Ms and its lame support for older cpu. Stop and please don't respond.
Jul 31 2022 10:21 AM
Jul 31 2022 11:28 AM
Aug 01 2022 04:54 PM
Thanks for publishing your experience with Win 11 on your old salty yet reliable i7- 3rd gen work horse.
One of my admins at our company is still using his 3rd gen i7 -- and resists my complaints that he needs to swap out the $1200 9th gen system we shipped him 5 months ago...
Speaking as a PC tech of 30 years, I agree with Microsoft policy on THIS issue.. and the reasons for biting the bullet far outweigh the risks... though just about everything else they do on every other OS upgrade irks me to no end.
What I would like to know.. (which NO ONE has mentioned so far) does the 'Win 11 fresh install' on your system... each and every month... allow and install the updates every patch Tuesday.
THIS IS WHAT MATTERS MOST.
If for any reason, MS allows this today and then in future blocks said updates, then anyone using the non-approved hardware for Win 11 will eventually get what is coming their way in the form of Russian/Iranian/ North Korean MALWARE designed to victimize people who do not follow the guidelines.
Regardless, I am eager to know if your system has been accepting updates. And until Win 11 22H2 comes out this October, I am not investing my time testing it on any system.
Sharing the good news on Win 11...
In October 2022, MS should be releasing the next version of Win 11. Said version should run Android apps by default, abolishing that pesky memory leak on File Explorer tabs (trust you do NOT want memory leaks in File Explorer) and general improvements to the start menu which was a huge step backward IMHO.
In addition, it is rumored that 4 times a year, Win 11 will download new apps and features. Some speculate that after two years, then we might see Win 12.
Looking forward to your response.
Aug 01 2022 05:37 PM