New margins at left and right sides of home screen are horrible.

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Not sure if this is the correct place for this. Sorry if anyone has trouble due to the large images.

 

The latest update seems to have introduced some kind of unmodifiable margin on the left and right edges of the homescreen. I've attached 3 screenshots, please ignore the differences in the icon layouts, or the discrepancy between the medium/large icon settings - I was trying to see if toggling it would revert to the "old" way of displaying it.

 

Microsoft Launcher used to have uniform spacing between icons, save for the margins. Now it truly has uniform spacing between icon columns, and it's horrible.

 

The distance between the edge of the screen and the first (or last) column of icons used to be significantly smaller than the spacing between each individual column. This was nice. I don't need padding to avoid the edge of my screen, but it's appreciated between icon columns. Instead, now we have a margin on the left and right sides of the home screen, and icons that are squashed together in comparison. It blows. Even shrinking down to the smallest icon size leaves me with columns that are effectively narrower than they were before.

 

I'm not really missing the old slider for icon sizes, as I had it set to the largest anyways, and I don't seem to have run into any of the issues others are having where the icon size selection is completely non-responsive. It works, I can pick between small, medium, and large, but the margins on the sides never go away. Simply put, it looks like an iPhone's home screen. If I wanted one, I'd be using one. It also appears to affect widgets as well.

 

Please change it back, or at least give us some control over it.

 

Original pre-update viewOriginal pre-update view

 

Settings menu, on the latest update. Preview here has the icons extended to the edges of the screen like they used to. This is good.Settings menu, on the latest update. Preview here has the icons extended to the edges of the screen like they used to. This is good.

 

View of those settings in use after latest update - no way to remove marginsView of those settings in use after latest update - no way to remove margins

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Forgot these details if they're helpful and this is in fact an isolated issue:

 

  • App Version: 5.3.0.50356
  • LG V20 / Android 8.0.0 / H91020h
  • Smallest width: 411dp
    • I'm not sure what DPI setting this translates to, but I've had it set this way since I got the phone, and it's set the same way in both the original first screenshot and the two post-update ones. I've got good eyesight, I hate (visual) eavesdroppers, and, because it's still funny, if I wanted a high-resolution screen that was as underutilized as an iPhone's, I'd use an iPhone. 
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They are great! The new margins were added because they're was a large number of users on Galaxy flagship devices wanted this feature to avoid accidental edge touches. The icons on those devices were right up to the edge of the edge screen.
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Its even worse on my tablet.
In landscape mode all my apps and widgets are moved to the leftside of the screen leaving a large spot of empty dead space on the right.

I always liked the widgets connect to the edge of the screen look. But if others are hindered enogh by it, perhaps make it something we can adjust or turn of on our own?
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Like a toggle that can turn on "Increase Edge Screen Margins"? I'm down. There's seems to be a lot of feedback from people using Galaxy phones with the edge screen.
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@Chef31684in that case, here is the fix for anyone who is having the same issue.

 

Step 1: Leave the beta and uninstall Microsoft Launcher. Make sure you made a backup of your data using Launcher or a backup program.Step 1: Leave the beta and uninstall Microsoft Launcher. Make sure you made a backup of your data using Launcher or a backup program.
Step 2: Reinstall 5.2.1 while you still can. Disable auto updates in the Play Store.Step 2: Reinstall 5.2.1 while you still can. Disable auto updates in the Play Store.Step 3: Restore your data, either before first use with something like this, or right after you first start it using Launcher itself.Step 3: Restore your data, either before first use with something like this, or right after you first start it using Launcher itself.Step 4: Go back to how it's been working forever instead of taking a UX hit for a bandage that caters to a flawed ridiculous fad in hardware design.Step 4: Go back to how it's been working forever instead of taking a UX hit for a bandage that caters to a flawed ridiculous fad in hardware design.

 

5.3 for comparison5.3 for comparison

I understand some degree of testing must have taken place to make sure it was the right amount of margin added for usability on Galaxy devices? Here are screenshots of a Galaxy S9, taken from a launch day review:

 


Home screen, wish I could've found one with icons on it other than the dock.Home screen, wish I could've found one with icons on it other than the dock.

 

App drawer. These are both from a launch review.App drawer. These are both from a launch review.

Note that the app drawer is 5x6, even with all that extra vertical space, compared to the 5x7 I was using before - 5x8 if you include the "dock".

 

 

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Like I said. I like the current beta margins.
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Looks great on my Galaxy S8+. See screenshot.
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@Chef31684here is a quick, scaled comparison, with the Galaxy's stock margins in the drawer, vs. 5.2, and 5.3 - I think it's a bit silly, don't you? To my knowledge, the GS9 doesn't do any kind of hardware scaling for the curve on the screen, so this screenshot should be fairly representative.

 

If the default GS9 behavior had suddenly been implemented when 5.3 launched, it may not have been as abrasive. For whatever reason, Launcher now just displays at lower DPI, or with smaller "Large" icons, or what have you. The "fix" is so drastic it outdoes Samsung's own design for their own screens. I didn't modify the screenshot at all, both phones have a 1440 width which made it easy enough to do in GIMP.

 

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If controlling the size of the margin is too much to ask for, a toggle for "Edge Friendliness" (RIP Trident/EdgeHTML) would be nice. Have it switch between the old and new behavior.

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I get what you're saying.
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@Chef31684 For what it's worth, the effect doesn't look as drastic on your screen, probably because of the higher density of icons overall.

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Could also be screen size? Resolution? It doesn't look static on your screen shots either. At least to me
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Off topic: What is the app you have in the top left of your start screen?
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The green one? ProtonVPN.

 

I had to use ProtonMail for HIPAA reasons and decided to sign up for the paid version of that. They had a deal around Thanksgiving time that basically made getting one get you the other for free. I only really use it on public Wi-Fi, but it's been solid on my computers. Good stuff. There's a free version if you want to try it out.

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Not the green one. One one with the Treble Clef on it. Is it a instrument tuner app?
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Here is my info:

  • App Version: 5.3.0.50356
  • Xiaomi Mi 8 / Android 9 / MIUI Global Stable 10.2.3.0
  • Smallest width (Android developer options): 392 dp (original setting) 

Hi there to all and specially @booddude, I feel your pain, i have been a Microsoft Launcher BETA user since the beginning, and this messing of the icons made me go back to 5.2 as they are very small for me to use!

I have a Xiaomi Mi 8 with a 6x6 setting with the bigger icons, and it was great because i could fully use the big screen of my device but now icons are too small because of the margin between them and i can't use the launcher like this (previously i had a Mi 5 with a smaller screen and 5x5 setting).

 

So just let me report what i find wrong on this release that needs fixing:

  • The icon margin is really bad and it makes the icons really small. I understand some users want a bigger margin on the sides, but a bigger margin between the icons is a no go. Also many devices, like the one i have, have a fuller screen with reduced margins - whats the point of this if i can't use the "fuller" screen it has? I don't know how to fix this, maybe an option to fully use the icon size or to have margins?

  • 3 options for icon and font size is not enough - a slider is better because it provides more options

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    I prefer Microsoft / Windows fonts rather than Android ones. However this can also be fixed if we could choose the font. And if this new font is to make it similar to Android, MIUI also doesn't use the Android font

     

Finally i added some images of what i'm reporting so the team can see it. ML 5.2 6x6 icons are roughly the same size as ML 5.3 7x7 icons, but ML 5.3 has lots of margins between them!


ML 5.2 - 6x6 icon setting with full icon sizeML 5.2 - 6x6 icon setting with full icon size


ML 5.3 - 6x6 icon setting with large icon sizeML 5.3 - 6x6 icon setting with large icon size


ML 5.2 - homescreenML 5.2 - homescreen


ML 5.3 - homescreenML 5.3 - homescreen


ML 5.2 - dock iconsML 5.2 - dock icons


ML 5.3 - dock iconsML 5.3 - dock icons


ML 5.2 - example screenML 5.2 - example screen


ML 5.3 - example screenML 5.3 - example screen


ML 5.2 - 7x7 icon setting with full icon sizeML 5.2 - 7x7 icon setting with full icon size


ML 5.2 - 8x8 icon setting with full icon sizeML 5.2 - 8x8 icon setting with full icon size

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@Chef31684 oh, that's AV CONTROLLER for my Yamaha AVR. Wireless remote control app.

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Thanks for the extra screenshots, it looks like the effect is still pretty drastic even on different setups.

Tbh the font doesn't really bother me as much, I think my LG uses Titillium throughout most of the UI. Segoe and Roboto both don't match, but I definitely preferred Segoe. If they're going to change it to anything, it should just use the system font. At least that way nobody ends up with an unwelcome Roboto.
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Hi there! Anyone that keeps using the beta version knows if the recent updates fixed this issue? Thanks!
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