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[Susan Cockrell]

Hello Office Insiders! 

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[#2]

@HotCakeX , I've heard back from the Android team. Could you please restart the app twice (while connected to the internet) and try again to save a PDF and let us know your results? 

Thanks! 

[#3]

@Susan Cockrell 

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@Susan Cockrell wrote:

@HotCakeX , I've heard back from the Android team. Could you please restart the app twice (while connected to the internet) and try again to save a PDF and let us know your results? 

Thanks! 

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Hi,

so here is what i did, first I uninstalled the app, reinstalled from Google play, Version

1.0.1 (16.0.13901.20198), signed into the app, waited 10 to 15 mins for everything to sync up and the app takes its time. then restarted the app twice like you said. (even sometimes tried force stop and then restart).

and here is how the app is behaving:

when I open a PDF that is shown in the recently opened list in the home page of the Office app, and try to annotate it, I get the Read-only message and requires me to save it as a duplicate somewhere before I can annotate it.

But, when I open the Same PDF file, or any other PDF file, from Files or File manager of the phone, by tap+holding on the file and choosing open with Office, and when I try to annotate the PDF, I No longer get the Read-only message. so it's partially fixed now.

there is however another problem. so let's say I open a PDF from file manager with Office app, apply my annotations, text highlights etc. and then I tap on the Tick icon on top-left side of the app to finish and apply my changes.

I normally expect that Tick symbol to save my changes to the PDF and be done with it.

but no, when I try to leave the PDF or go back, it asks me this:

When I tap on Save, it wants me to again, make a duplicate copy of the PDF file and save it on the phone. 

so please change these 2 behaviors in Office app,

1. regardless of how the user opens PDF files, whether it's opened from file manager or from inside the Office app home page, do not show the read-only message which asks user to save a duplicate file.
2. after applying edits on the PDF (such as highlights, annotations etc.), save the changes over the same PDF file, and do not ask user to make another PDF file and save it on phone.

these are the default behaviors on other apps on phone and desktop. for example in Microsoft Edge browser, the PDF feature is great, lets you open PDF, annotate it, highlight it, then simply click on save icon and save the changes over the same file.

Thank you

[#4]

@HotCakeX , hi again! 

I've heard back once again from the Office Android engineering team and here are a few things: 

Issue #1: While opening file from Home page, “Save As – Discard” dialog is shown before annotation is allowed. However, when file is opened from File manager, Save Dialog is shown post the edit.
>> If you had opened the file before our fix was deployed, it would have been stored in our app folders as a read only file. Tapping on “read-only” files leads to the older behavior where you are asked to save before editing.

We understand that this is inconvenient for the you. Our recommendation is to save a copy of the file and make any subsequent edits in the saved copy. 

Issue #2: Irrespective of where the file is opened from, changes should be saved to the same file without asking for a copy to be made
>> Android limitations prevent us from achieving this with local files. (This behavior is not applicable for cloud files)
You will need to save a copy, the first time. Once saved, we recommend you open the file from within Office app. Opening the copy from outside Office & performing edits would result in a similar issue.

Please let me know if you have any further questions, @HotCakeX !

Thanks,

Susan 

[#5]

Thank you very much, that answers all my questions, hope the Android limitation gets solved in the future too.

[#6]

Nothing.

[#7]

Thank-you for all your help in Office, windows 10. Thanks from a gulf war veteran. Sincerely yours Craig L. Gilje.

[#8]

This us great. I hope I can get the help I need Thanks

[#9]

Thanks for the approval

[#10]

Thank You

[#11]

hello, i am running the new win11 insider build and i want to try office insider.

[#12]

I'm INSIDER on my Surface Studio. Recently I installed Windows 11 on my Pro7 and I am not an INSIDER there, even though it is the same account. I have a Microsoft Business Standard account. Why do I have it on one device and on another device not? Even with the same account.

[#13]

me too

[#14]

Word beta full will not download

[#15]

My autoupdater does not show me the latest insider builds (beta or preview). How can I get the 16.52 version of excel? it has features i have been advocating for several years for. please help!

[#16]

zakupiłem office 365 lifetime account od Quantico Co i dostałem login z hasłem jednorazowym ,które zmieniłem na swoje haslo a dziś Microsoft nie uznaje tego logina i mam word bez licencji ,proszę o pomoc

[#17]

i already have Microsoft 365 product, why can't i join the Office insider program?

[#18]

Thank you for letting me participate

[#19]

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[#20]

@Susan Cockrell  hey, i just installed this version of LTSC Office 2021 https://docs.microsoft.com/es-es/deployoffice/ltsc2021/install-ltsc-preview, on my Windows 11 Machine [but that's not relevant], and I was wandering how do I join the insider programme. As I have this version, this is the update menu:

And this appears. It seems to be updated.

But as there seems to be no option to join the insider programme, I wanted to know, am I on the correct license [take on account I activated from the KMS key provided on the link above], and the formatting of the layout from the programmes look no like what the latest build looks like. 

What could I do? I'll be glad to know, and I thank you for your time, MEM.

[#21]

Hi, @mem756 , 

Office LTSC is a perpetual version of Office and, as such, you will not be able to preview features. In order to be able to join and see the preview features from the Office Insider program, you'll need to have a Microsoft 365 subscription for consumer - or - if you have a Microsoft 365 apps for Enterprise subscription, your IT Admin will need to allow you to change your own channel to Beta Channel or Current Channel (Preview). 

Here is more information about joining the program: https://insider.office.com/join/windows

Hoping this helps! 

Susan