09-03-2019 10:26 AM
09-03-2019 10:26 AM
I appreciate the benefits of Microsoft Search in the Office apps but I'm getting feedback form multiple people that having the search in the title bar is unhelpful because they need to use the title bar for dragging the window around. In Outlook in particular, having the search box so far away from the content that you're searching is jarring. I understand the value of consistency, but I think that the utility of putting search with the content it searches overrides being consistent at all costs. Can we have an option to move the search box back down to the content in Outlook, and perhaps not to have it in title bars at all?
09-03-2019 12:23 PM
The search bar doesn't show in my version of Outlook 365, but it does in Word, Excel etc
To hid it, I use tick the 'collapse the Microsoft Search bar by default' to stop it from showing.
09-03-2019 12:32 PM
I think its location should be customizable like the Quick Access toolbar and Ribbon. It shouldn't be forced into the title bar which removes or impairs the function & consistency of the title bar.
09-03-2019 01:31 PM
@HidMovthis is a change in recent Insider versions of Outlook, so it may not have reached you yet. I can't find an option to move it back to the top of the inbox - and searching is so important in Outlook that I wouldn't want to hide the feature!
09-03-2019 02:51 PM
Thanks @Mary Branscombe - I'm on the slow ring and not the fast ring which is why I was talking nonsense.
I'm going to switch to the fast ring and check it out; from what you've shown me this is going to mess up my workflow quite a bit.
09-03-2019 06:46 PM
Here's another really awful side effect of having the search bar in the title bar... When you type into it, the search suggestions and actions drop-down menu COVERS the ribbon and the "Search" tab which contains search refinement options!!! This makes the "Search" tab options completely unusable. If you click away in order to get the search suggestions to disappear, then the Search tab also disappears from the ribbon.
09-06-2019 01:03 PM
Tested the fast ring Outlook - not at fan at all. I've left feedback because it seems like it's not going to be a useful change going forward.
10-22-2019 02:09 PM
None of my users like this change either. They are also not on the insider preview version of outlook.
10-22-2019 04:49 PM
This has appeared for one of our staff now as well. They are on Monthly Channel (Targeted) so it seems they are the first to receive it. Confused the hell out of them to have search just disappear (yes it only moved, but that's not where their eyes look for it) and they don't like it. The option to move it back would be ideal. I have no idea what benefit this is supposed to bring.
10-24-2019 06:12 AM
100% agreed. This search box on the outlook title bar is terrible.
I'm glad an authoritative voice as Paul noted this, so I hope the will retire or modify this behaviour.
10-28-2019 10:30 AM - edited 10-28-2019 10:31 AM
I had to post an answer here.
We are at the end of October and nothing changed, last week I updated office and now I have this disgusting feature...
This is a nightmare, first with inbox in the cloud even with local sync we have a much more slower search than before, now we have to struggle to find the search bar.
I hate this.
11-07-2019 07:52 AM - edited 11-08-2019 05:20 AM
+1 to the list of people who notice that it prevents us from using the Search tab in the ribbon. You have to be crafty to get back to the ribbon, by clicking one of the dropdown arrows, then from there, click whatever else you're after.
11-07-2019 09:37 AM
Maybe this is the worst Idea since, I don't know, GREEDO SHOOTING FIRST!
11-07-2019 11:21 PM
11-08-2019 04:55 AM
11-14-2019 01:38 PM
my options menu doesn't show the disable search bar...wtf, help
11-15-2019 03:56 AM
Covering the ribbon with the much needed refiners is a very bad thing.
Searching on multiple categories is very hard now. I use categories a lot. We need categories for proper single folder archiving. While working on it, please provide a scrollbar in the categories search list, to easy select multiple categories.
Its is not cofigurable enough.
11-17-2019 04:59 PM
11-17-2019 08:27 PM
What are you even talking about; dragging the window interacts perfectly fine with the search bar (on multiple machines) and the microsoft search function in particular is accessed through Alt+Q on a default QWERTY binding and has been for as long as I remember.
The original design of the microsoft search bar was on the ribbon - which was also arguably not optimal if not more obscure, but it certainly doesn't make the search on the title bar an "extra search field".
Many people use this feature in a lot of areas of expertise. Dismissing it as "a feature designed by someone who doesn't actually use Excel" is not only quite disrespectful, it doesn't even consider the fact that this design change has rolled out to most Office 365 apps.
I'm pretty sure a lot of people are frustrated with the really questionably bad design choice of where the search bar has moved (and left uncollapsed), but at least express more accurate or constructive feedback.
11-18-2019 10:46 AM - edited 01-12-2020 02:02 PM
I too don't have the option 'Remove or shrink Search box in title bar' in my Outlook 365 on my notebook.
I simply don't want to use it for now.
So how to revert to the usual way?
I really find it a bad idea to implement new features without the option to disable them.
12-26-2019 09:21 PM
12-26-2019 09:23 PM
01-06-2020 01:59 PM
01-12-2020 01:59 PM
And most importantly - you can't see the name of the folder you are in! Especially, for those of us that have multiple mailboxes, you can't tell which one you are in.. very bad design.!
01-12-2020 07:31 PM
I agree 100%. The Outlook search in the title bar is awful. Please put it back!
01-31-2020 10:45 AM
This is an extremely unfortunate design decision, especially if they're not giving us a way to revert or choice where our search field is. The Title bar, is for me the please to display the ... wait for it ... Title of a document or email, or the closest equivalent to that. I could see some people arguing over what the Title of any particular piece of information is -- Is a Filename a title? If so, should it include a path? What about Inbox, or mailbox folder name? Perhaps the subject line of an email?
But you know what isn't a Title --- a search field input box. That is not a Title.
02-25-2020 02:35 AM
Putting the search into the title bar is horrible and unnatural (and make its harder to drag around the window). One of the Microsoft Office apps gets so bad that there is literally nothing to "grab" to drag the window -- you have to use ALT-Space and M to move the window. But Microsoft Program Managers will sit there and defend it as "great and innovative" - despite feedback here and on many other forums. So we are probably stuck with this poorly conceived UX design for the next decade.
02-26-2020 01:22 PM
This decision by MS to move the search bar without flexibility is extremely shortsighted.
The functionality obviously was not tested by heavy Outlook users.
ere are a few comments. I am dealing feedback from a sample set of about 5000 users many who use the search bar frequently.
1) I very much like the filter drop down, Great addition.
2) The position of the search bar.
Moving the bar above the ribbon to the top left of the window and makes it much less user friendly. Sounds petty but time wasted accumulates when you have to move the mouse further especially if you are a frequent searcher. The current location, pre-update on the right side below the ribbon, works just fine.
Standardization is nice but Outlook is not Word and Outlook is not Excel. They are used differently.
MS .... Please reconsider or at least do some additional research.
03-02-2020 10:52 PM
@Gfyrlwwhen I first brought this up nearly a year ago, the Microsoft response was that they were going to wait and see what the wider group of users thought about it; I see that I'm going to be reporting back the next time I talk to anyone on the Outlook team that the wider group of users finds it as annoying and displaced as I continue to do a year later ;)
03-03-2020 03:44 AM
03-09-2020 11:40 AM
@Mary Branscombe I couldn't agree more. The new search is a total pain. In every task preformed with search I have 50% more clicks and navigation. This is a unnecessary time waster and there is no benefit. This is proof positive that the engineers and designers at MS have nothing to do, so they just messed up a perfectly functional and useful part of Outlook so they could claim to be doing some work. They haven't even integrated a connection with Outlook and Skype after all of these years and they mess with search?
03-16-2020 09:18 PM
@Mary Branscombe I agree with most of the other posters. It was much easier to find and use in its old location. The title bar location is awkward to use and requires too much mouse movement to access.
03-18-2020 03:41 PM
i also feel it is not a good "upgrade". The feel and ease of use is definitely degraded when the search box is in the title bar. i agree that its location should be customizable.
04-14-2020 01:05 PM
@Adam Lein - I agree this is so totally annoying I have no idea why they thought it would be a good idea to put it above the Ribbon UGH!!
04-15-2020 09:23 PM
The new layout is really annoying and very poor UX. Please roll back the feature or at least make it optional so users can change it back to where it was.
04-15-2020 11:14 PM - edited 04-15-2020 11:34 PM
(my apologies if it has already been done).
*edit* I am using O365 ProPlus version 2002 and when toggling off "coming soon" at the menu bar (upper right corner) the search bar goes back to the previous location. Maybe that solves the problem for some of you, at least for now.
04-16-2020 05:03 PM - edited 04-16-2020 05:09 PM
Try this..., it worked for me...
Look for the switch button located on the upper right corner of your Outlook window.
Toggle the switch to "off" and restart Outlook.
Search Bar from Title Bar to Original Location
04-16-2020 10:08 PM
04-16-2020 11:59 PM
@paulcopsey It's an ill-conceived design change, making it virtually impossible to grab some title bars to move the window now. There is an open UserVoice topic about this at:
04-17-2020 12:02 AM
@Mary Branscombe Vote here to fix the search in the title bar issue. It's really annoying as there is hardly any real estate now to grab and move the window. I've had to resort to Alt-Space M and use the arrow keys a few times now.
04-17-2020 12:15 AM
@lesterw100 Considering how many people has viewed (and commented) on this topic, it would probably already be an option to move the search box if everyone had voted on UserVoice. As the workaround for now is to toggle off "coming soon" it has not been implemented as default for all Update Channels and could possibly be adjusted.
04-20-2020 01:02 AM
@Mary BranscombeIt also seems that the search bar has pushed out the identifier which previously showed which email account a user was in (for those who have multiple accounts listed in their Outlook list).
04-22-2020 04:52 AM
@lesterw100 I just noticed that you can actually grab the search bar itself to move the window. Just click and move in one motion. Don't click the search bar and then click again to move.
04-22-2020 06:41 AM
@SpencerDCS Can you attach video clip of this happening please. It does not work on my system.
04-22-2020 08:46 AM
@DesCar1947Sorry, the video capture does not work.
Left-click, hold, and move, do not let go of the mouse click. The search bar must not be active for this to work. It works in all Office products.
04-23-2020 07:01 AM
@Mary Branscombe Thanks Microsoft... another change that no one wanted - and it is explicitly less convenient than the previous UI.
The old search bar was quick and easy to access, and I didn't fill half your screen with its drop down menu, and it wasn't of garbage suggestions that I don't want or need, all before you start typing ANYTHING. The old ones drop down was small and simple.
Please don't force this down our throats. If you focus grouped this Microsoft you didn't do your due diligence, I doubt you survey existing Outlook users. Your crappy consulting firm likely focus grouped man-on-the-street type people... Who don't Outlook 2016 every single day.
This is another feature that I don't see anyone liking. People have adjusted to the ribbon that you forced years ago, but you still have to Google where thigns are anytime you use a function that your don't use regularly; the ribbon because completely non-intuitive (you could have lept the option to keep the menu bar, and you know this).
I dare say this search bar is a worse change than the ribbon.
04-23-2020 07:07 AM
@Adam Lein Aint gonna happen. People begged and begged MS to leave the menu bar as an option you can turn on and off, instead of have to use the ribbon; where you literally have to go to google to find out where they have a hidden a function in it that you need (I still do to do this day, and I think most people have to to find something they don't use often). And that was over a decade ago.
Fortunately third party addin Classic Menus fixes that, but as a system admin my users wanted to throw their PC's out the Window when we upgraded to Ribbon-using Office versions.
They seem to be equally pissed about this search bar's terrible location. It completley breaks the flow of work. Not intuitive - and objectively clunky.