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Mary Branscombe
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I appreciate the benefits of Microsoft Search in the Office apps but I'm getting feedback form multiple people that having the search in the title bar is unhelpful because they need to use the title bar for dragging the window around. In Outlook in particular, having the search box so far away from the content that you're searching is jarring. I understand the value of consistency, but I think that the utility of putting search with the content it searches overrides being consistent at all costs. Can we have an option to move the search box back down to the content in Outlook, and perhaps not to have it in title bars at all?

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Hi @Mary Branscombe 

 

The search bar doesn't show in my version of Outlook 365, but it does in Word, Excel etc

 

To hid it, I use tick the 'collapse the Microsoft Search bar by default' to stop it from showing.

 

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I think its location should be customizable like the Quick Access toolbar and Ribbon.  It shouldn't be forced into the title bar which removes or impairs the function & consistency of the title bar. 

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@HidMovthis is a change in recent Insider versions of Outlook, so it may not have reached you yet. I can't find an option to move it back to the top of the inbox - and searching is so important in Outlook that I wouldn't want to hide the feature!

 
 
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Thanks @Mary Branscombe - I'm on the slow ring and not the fast ring which is why I was talking nonsense. :lol:

 

I'm going to switch to the fast ring and check it out; from what you've shown me this is going to mess up my workflow quite a bit. 

Here's another really awful side effect of having the search bar in the title bar...  When you type into it, the search suggestions and actions drop-down menu COVERS the ribbon and the "Search" tab which contains search refinement options!!!  This makes the "Search" tab options completely unusable. If you click away in order to get the search suggestions to disappear, then the Search tab also disappears from the ribbon. 

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Tested the fast ring Outlook - not at fan at all. I've left feedback because it seems like it's not going to be a useful change going forward.

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None of my users like this change either. They are also not on the insider preview version of outlook.  

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This has appeared for one of our staff now as well. They are on Monthly Channel (Targeted) so it seems they are the first to receive it. Confused the hell out of them to have search just disappear (yes it only moved, but that's not where their eyes look for it) and they don't like it. The option to move it back would be ideal. I have no idea what benefit this is supposed to bring.

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@Paul Cunningham 

100% agreed. This search box on the outlook title bar is terrible.

I'm glad an authoritative voice as Paul noted this, so I hope the will retire or modify this behaviour.

 

Thanks.

 

Enrico

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Hey

I had to post an answer here. 

We are at the end of October and nothing changed, last week I updated office and now I have this disgusting feature...

This is a nightmare, first with inbox in the cloud even with local sync we have a much more slower search than before, now we have to struggle to find the search bar.

 

I hate this.

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+1 to the list of people who notice that it prevents us from using the Search tab in the ribbon.  You have to be crafty to get back to the ribbon, by clicking one of the dropdown arrows, then from there, click whatever else you're after.


E.g. 

  1. Click into new search bar.
  2. Click the "Recent Searches" Search ribbon tab button's down-arrow (this hides the fly-down menu from the new search bar that covers most of the Search ribbon tab).
  3. Click whatever it was in the Search ribbon tab that you wanted to click in the first place.
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Maybe this is the worst Idea since, I don't know, GREEDO SHOOTING FIRST!

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I think we're supposed to drop down the search options box from the title search box and ignore the ribbon
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I agree @maryb. I think you're right. Time to go de-whine-ify my other post:). I may see about removing the search ribbon tab and see how I can acclimate to the new bar.
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my options menu doesn't show the disable search bar...wtf, help

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@Mary Branscombe 

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@Mary Branscombe 

 

Covering the ribbon with the much needed refiners is a very bad thing.
Searching on multiple categories is very hard now. I use categories a lot. We need categories for proper single folder archiving. While working on it, please provide a scrollbar in the categories search list, to easy select multiple categories.
Its is not cofigurable enough.

Bert

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This extra search field is makes it harder to grap the window and move it; plus it's redundant. If I want to search I simply need to press <CTRL>-F. That is MUCH faster than taking my hand off the keyboard, moving the mouse, and clicking. Bottom line, this is a feature designed by someone who doesn't actually use Excel.
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@ChristopherRath 

 

What are you even talking about; dragging the window interacts perfectly fine with the search bar (on multiple machines) and the microsoft search function in particular is accessed through Alt+Q on a default QWERTY binding and has been for as long as I remember.

 

The original design of the microsoft search bar was on the ribbon - which was also arguably not optimal if not more obscure, but it certainly doesn't make the search on the title bar an "extra search field".

 

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Many people use this feature in a lot of areas of expertise. Dismissing it as "a feature designed by someone who doesn't actually use Excel" is not only quite disrespectful, it doesn't even consider the fact that this design change has rolled out to most Office 365 apps.

 

I'm pretty sure a lot of people are frustrated with the really questionably bad design choice of where the search bar has moved (and left uncollapsed), but at least express more accurate or constructive feedback.

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I too don't have the option 'Remove or shrink Search box in title bar' in my Outlook 365 on my notebook.
I simply don't want to use it for now.
So how to revert to the usual way?

I really find it a bad idea to implement new features without the option to disable them.

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That option not available in Outlook??
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So stupid...do the developers even use these features before releasing them? I use the Search Ribbon tools daily and now they are obscured by a new search drop down, which gives no additional value.
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Retire please. Nothing wrong with the old search bar.
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Way more clicks and totally inefficient for those that display the ribbon.
Old method - Ctrl +E then click the refiners on the ribbon. Super efficient.
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Wow! What an incredibly condescending reply. However, I agree he was wrong for saying "a feature designed by someone who doesn't actually use Excel." He should have been more accurate and say "a feature designed by someone who has never used Office." See... my statement takes into consideration that this stupid design change has rolled out to most Office 365 apps.

The search box takes up ~20% of the title bar. It's also obvious that they are planning on doing away with the search tab completely as you can't access it anymore when customizing the ribbon. Perhaps maybe monotykamary doesn't mind being slow and methodical when doing simple tasks, but I've got work to do so when a window needs moving, I shouldn't have to think about it. Just click the title bar and drag. But if I happen to click on the overly large search box, no dragging.

Hopefully, the feature in Word to collapse the Search Box will be brought over to Outlook where it's really needed. Also, they should really re-think the "Suggested Actions". They're never relevant.


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@Adam Lein 

And most importantly - you can't see the name of the folder you are in!  Especially, for those of us that have multiple mailboxes, you can't tell which one you are in.. very bad design.!

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I agree 100%. The Outlook search in the title bar is awful.  Please put it back!

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This is an extremely unfortunate design decision, especially if they're not giving us a way to revert or choice where our search field is.  The Title bar, is for me the please to display the ... wait for it ... Title of a document or email, or the closest equivalent to that.  I could see some people arguing over what the Title of any particular piece of information is -- Is a Filename a title?  If so, should it include a path? What about Inbox, or mailbox folder name?  Perhaps the subject line of an email?

 

But you know what isn't a Title --- a search field input box.  That is not a Title.

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