Jan 05 2018
08:23 AM
- last edited on
Feb 01 2023
10:54 AM
by
TechCommunityAP
Jan 05 2018
08:23 AM
- last edited on
Feb 01 2023
10:54 AM
by
TechCommunityAP
I have a customer in the social sector. He owns multiple homes for young people who cannot live with their parents for various reasons. They are neither a charity or a non-profit organisation. Nevertheless budget is extremely tight! They run on old software and hardware and I need to create a migration plan for them.
This is their set-up:
Files are currently saved in Dropbox and shared amongst the core team members and the home team members.
This is the plan for the core team:
The costs would be 10 members × 10.50 € p.m. = 105 € p.m.
This is plan for the home team supervisors:
The costs would be 20 supervisors × 10.50 € p.m. ≈ 210 € p.m.
This seems solid and I don't think there are much better alternatives. (I wouldn't mind suggestions for improvement, though). That way my customer can also ditch Dropbox and use OneDrive.
The problem is with the therapists. They need to put their times into the system at the end of the day, write maybe 1-2 reports and write/send one or two emails. They share one computer, account and mailbox. (Setting them up with them personal accounts is needless and out of the question for management reasons). So getting them the Office 365 BP subscription for 104 therapists × 10.50 € p.m. = 1092 € per month is absolutely out of the question. First of all, they do not want to manage 104 therapists and all the changes in staff. Secondly, they need office maybe 30 minutes each day and paying 1000 bucks for that is simply not in the budget.
An alternative would be to buy Office 2016 standalone for the shared home team computers. That way every therapist could access Word and Excel for a one-off payment of 8 computers × 590 € = 4720 €. But then my customer would still need to license every therapist with an Exchange Online Plan 1 license. That would be 104 therapists × 3.40 € p.m. = 353.60 € per month. But they don't have access to sharepoint and would all have to get a personal email addresses, which will have to be managed somehow. That is overkill and my customer will definitely not do this.
It's so crazy, I can't think of any way to have 104 therapists just logon as one of the eight shared home team accounts/mailboxes without having to administer every single one of them. Microsoft's licensing options are basically preventing me from implementing an easy solution here, unless I overlooked something. But as far as I know, we can't have 8 therapists share a business premium account. Honestly, I wouldn't give a **bleeping** **bleep** about that and just tell my customer to do it. I have zero respect for the licensing rules Microsoft established here, but I don't want to get my customer and myself into legal trouble.
Right now I am on the verge of recommending them a dedicated server with Open-Xchange and Nextcloud and have them all use Thunderbird and Office 365 Business (only Word and Excel) for their 10 core team members and 20 supervisors.
Suggestions are welcome.
Jan 05 2018 08:49 AM
Hi Daniel, have you considered Office 365 F1, it's meant for front-line workers and it's quite a nice offering though whether it would help for your circumstances I'm not sure.
Jan 05 2018 08:53 AM - edited Jan 05 2018 08:55 AM
F1 is still a user license. Managing 104 users is out of the question. Too much bureaucracy, too time consuming, to expensive in the end.
All we want is 13 computers, each having a single account (home1, home2) with a single mailbox (home1@..., home2@...) and access to Word, Excel where 8 therapists can logon to each computer.
Jan 05 2018 09:23 AM
Thanks for the clarification, I don't see a way around it but some other members may have more suggestions. Each user should have the appropriate licence assigned but as always for licensing matters, it's best to consult a Microsoft rep or partner for definitive answers. It's a shame they are not a non-profit, Microsoft has good discounts for those plans.
Jan 06 2018 03:28 AM
@Daniel Niccoli, I agree with @Cian Allner, the profile you've described for the therapists fits with the F1 definition relatively well, it's designed for frontline/kiosk tyoe workers.
Managing their accounts needn't be complicated, Microsoft Stafhub (a tool built for these type of workers) includes a specific mode to make managing the accounts easy. All their manager needs to do is enter the name and mobile phone for a therapist, Staffhub sends them texts and walks them through provisioning accounts etc. See
F1 won't licnese them for Office Pro Plus, but they ill have a OneDrive and the ability to use the web versions of Office.