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Hi there

is it possible to change the sort order of chat, so that the newest posts are displayed on top - and not as now downwards. 

 

Svein

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AFAIK, the answer is No...you can apply filters on your activity stream but there is not a way to change the order in a 1:1 chat or in a channel chat
IMO current sort order makes teams VERY inefficient. Default sort should be latest at the top!

+1 from me


I like Teams' functionality but the reverse feed direction is a pain

 

The Channel options should include a 'Show Newest First' toggle

Teams + Sort from top == Yammer

 

Chat apps don't scroll that way, imagine a Skype conversation scrolling down, or iMessage, WhatsApp etc.

 

 

I see what you mean, but we're talking about threads, not individual replies

 

Using your first example, Skype for Business:
 - when you look at an individual IM thread, yes, the latest comment is at the bottom

 - BUT when you look at your list of all IM's, the most recent ones are at the top

 

It's just intuitive to have it that way, and Teams has (in my opinion) got the grouped conversations sorted the wrong way

I'd just like the ability to change it ... a 'Display Order' toggle added to the Options menu, thanks :)

I am new to team and I must request the ability to set the preference.  I understand the debate over Yammer VS Skype.  But why not let the user choose the sort order.  This is a no-brainer just like in a Word document you pick the font and color.... beauty and what makes sense is also in the eye of who uses it.  That way everyone is right and happy.

@Marc Gagnon you can add and vote for Teams features on UserVoice at https://microsoftteams.uservoice.com/forums/555103-public

 

Teams is focused on fast paced conversations with real-time chat. I really can't imagine a good UI for real-time that scolls down from the top, and I uggest you are thinking of it more like a forum for more asynchromus posting, which is really what Yammer is best at. 

YES! What an odd choice!

So really?? The conversation won't show from Latest to oldest?? No control on Sort Order? Any possibility of this get changed in future?

It does show latest to oldest, going up the screen from the box where you type new messages. Just like Slack, WhatsApp, iMessage etc.

You should have the option of picking the method that works for you. Newest on top in a web browser make more sense than looking at old posts to me. Personal preference should rule.

This chat that we are working in has the option to sort by newest to oldest.

Why wouldn't you allow Teams to be just like this?

Hi, 

Why hasn't this been implemented yet? This is a basic feature in almost any applications. Please fix this asap.  

 

Teams will be a fantastic tool for many things when this is  implemented. We have a lot of noise from our users and trouble getting them to use teams at all because of this missing feature. 

 

/Bjørn Andre 

Well, there aren't very many votes for it on uservoice, so I guess not very many people want this ability.

 

https://microsoftteams.uservoice.com/forums/555103-public/suggestions/32200558-most-recent-conversat...

 

It is just the way chat apps have all decided to work, scrolling up the screen away from the compose box at the bottom. That way while you are writing a message you can see new messages as they appear. This is how iMessage works, WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger and others. You don't get a choice in those.

No thanks. You read from the top and downwards. Users are used to reading chat from the top to the bottom like irc, slack, whatsapp, telegram etc etc.

Steven,

 

Can we at least introduce a functionality to snap to the most current message? The IM apps you referenced may scroll in the same direction as Teams, but they at least open on the most recent message. Teams does not, which doesn't make sense. I've never used an app that showed you the oldest message on the landing screen and required you to scroll to the newest messages. I did vote for it on uservoice, though I do feel that lack of voices on this subject may not indicate anything as in both the organizations I've worked for most people just gave up on 365 apps that had odd functionalities rather than trouble with communicating back to Microsoft. In the case of Teams, we just never used the chat channel. 

My companies user satisfaction with 365 is really bad. I would not expect my single vote accurately represents the 14,000 users that I represent as the sponsor of Office 365. Every time I'm sent off to the black hole that is my single vote I wonder why I bother. The web-centric views that the Microsoft Development group continue to espouse arent what my users want, they are still focused on a PC environment moving towards Hybrid. Remember PC means doing it "my" way, not the one way someone told them to do it. Green screens put the latest stuff at the bottom also.

And again I will say this forum is very similar to what I would use teams chat for, is set up with new messages AT THE TOP.

@Brendan Foster it does! When I visit a channel I see the most recent message first.

Here is a UV item that closely matches what you are looking for. There are several of them - I urge you to find the one that looks like what you are requesting and please vote it up or add your personal justification to the UV item: https://microsoftteams.uservoice.com/forums/555103-public/suggestions/34458475-enable-reorganization...

This has been going for years and the feature is not there yet.

Apparently this is not an issue, but it is a problem.

 

Is Yammer going to file a lawsuit?

 

Again from the customer's perspective:

On a mobile device the send button is close to the right hand thumb. Yay.

On a desktop app the send button is diagonally opposed to the menu. Not very yay.

Years you say? Teams has only been available since March 2017. :)
That’s the thing about options, you never get consensus if you have options.
Let's just go with one font as well and a green screen!

I would love to have newest at the top.  For me that is the most logical.  I find skype/whatsapp etc equally illogical so quoting them as a precedence as others have done is not valid.  Its a simple fix to allow users to modify tools to work in the way that is best for the individual rather than forcing a less effective way of working onto someone.

When is this change going to be implemented? All big platforms such as Twitter, Facebook, Linkedin and Instagram efficiently put new posts at the top to help users.

@Steven Collier 

 

"Well, there aren't very many votes for it on uservoice, so I guess not very many people want this ability."

 

Interesting. I went to the link link you posted. I saw 190 folks saying to give us the option. I saw 0 (zero) saying keep it the way it is. The real interesting this is if MS gives the user the option to sort it either way, it is a win-win. You can keep the way it is, and I can reverse it the way I want. Looks the same to you (no change), looks better to me without changing anything for you.

 

The kicker? Real simple to add.

 

"It is just the way chat apps have all decided to work, scrolling up the screen away from the compose box at the bottom." 

 

Funny. Sayings like "That the way it is always done", "Everyone else is doing it", etc. If that was true, Apple would not have been created, Hybrid and electric cars not invented, etc.

 

Sigh,

 

Back to our regularly scheduled program I guess...

@Jim_Miller 

 

Should not be that big thing to add requested option. It's cultural thing how you want to see them. 

I have started using Teams whole hardely in the last month. Yes the ability to have the Posts ordered, Top down (newest first would be a great improvement. the other thing is that comments should not reorder the posts. The Posts Posted date should be the one that sorts the stuff.

 

Any idea when this will be accomplished?

 

-Guy_S

It is so inefficient that most recent conversations are not shown at the top for all channels. At very least this should be an option.

@Mark Scholtens 

 

Don't get me started on the silliness of modern UIs with things like: "Let's put some operators on the left side of the screen, grouped together, and then let put some other commonly used operators on the right side of the screen, as far away from others as possible, so that, especially on a big screen, users are forced to mouse back and forth across their screens to do simple functions."

 

Or, and this is a common one in Windows itself, put the clear and save options right next to each other to facilitate the accidental deletion of items instead of the intended saving of items.

 

It is enough to drive a man to drink.

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