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I understand from previous post that there may be a change coming to allow users to change the default sort for items in the Files tab.  Is this still in consideration?

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It's coming, just a matter of when. Once the SharePoint UI replaces the Files tab, you'll be able to set the default view which will include sort order.
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What does that mean? The SharePoint UI is replacing the Files Tab?

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Thanks Chris - So, I should now be able to set the Files tab to default sort on Name. Is that correct? I'm having some trouble doing that. 

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No, they have not released this still. No updates from Microsoft on the matter either. Could be this week could be months from now......But when this releases, we should be able to modify the default view on the libraries and it come over into Teams to my knowledge.
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Just checked and at this time still an issue: sort order in Teams files for files is last modified, while in the underlying sharepoint document library it sorts default by filename.

Sorting by name by default is the sane default, hope Microsoft picks this up soon.

.@Homer Franklin 

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@quinnmdq Still not updated in May 2019. This sort of behaviour immediately deters users who are using teams for the first time in our org. Sort should be by name as default, and defaults should be able to be set according to user preference.

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Anyone know if that functionality has been implemented yet? It can't be that hard, it's one of the most basic functions of any file browsing system

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@D-Fine  no, no news here! the  conversation and files tab is not movable

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Any news on this? I'm another one who is waiting for this feature. Rgds,
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Last I heard a few weeks ago. It was supposed to been out already so who knows at this point. Hopefully really soon.
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In the second half of last week my organization began migrating to Teams. I had been excited about the change, but did not realize I couldn't organize the filing system alpha-numerically by default. A two step process every time I navigate to a new folder (sort folder, find file) is double the steps used in file explorer. I didn't realize Teams, which supposedly organizes files, only has beta functionality.

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You don’t have to wait much longer the new file experience should be dropping any time now.
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We need this as well!  Please let us all know if you hear anything!  @Chris Webb 

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Sounds like this has been "in the near future" for over a year now. 

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Sorry buddy, but I'm skeptic.

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Preaching to the choir. It's coming, but who knows when.... last update was a week or two ago "Real Soon", but Been hearing Soon for awhile now. They said it was coming at the end of last year at Ignite and still not here so take it for what it's worth.
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Annnnnnd...

 

Still not available, in August

 

A year now I've been using Teams and this basic UI fail has not been fixed

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My organization has been an early adopter of Teams and the lack of this functionality is consistently called out by our end users.  If you are unable to allow users to set the default sort order themselves my opinion is that you should reset the global behavior to sort on name until the functionality can be added.  

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@mc_cockrell Agreed! I regularly have staff ask me how to default to alpha sort and I have to throw up my hands. 

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This is the only thing holding back the majority of our organization from migrating to Teams and Sharepoint as a shared storage platform.
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@Homer Franklin I agree that the default sort order must be changed. This is really holding is back in the adoption of Teams. 

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Almost a year now, do you have an idea if there exists a timeline on getting this fixed?

It is the Teams issue we get most complaints about in my organisation (rightfully so) .

@Chris Webb 

 

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Well they just released an official video on a blog a few days ago going over the new files tab so it’s got to hopefully finally be out soon.
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Link, please?@Chris Webb 

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Still doesn't give anything like a release date, and I can't see anything in the video that shows where you'll be able to set the default sort order... (unless I'm missing it somewhere, I'm watching the video on my phone so it's small). In fact, the explanation to the video appears to just tell me what I already see in the Files section of Teams
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It’s SharePoint. You have views. And a default view. You save the sort order via the default view and it uses it.
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@Chris Webb I've changed the default sort order in the sharepoint view. This directly changes the sort order in sharepoint but the sorting in teams is NOT changed.

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....because the files tab hasn’t been updated to use SharePoint yet it’s not going to work until then.
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@Homer Franklin Very disappointing to see it takes this long to fix something that simple.
Atleast set it to sort A-Z by default MS... come on

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@Chris Webbalmost a year later and still nothing #MicrosoftTime :(

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Yeah it’s a head scratcher.
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@dpassey Oh, it's been well over a year already. There is another thread where @Chris Webb said Share Point integration was in the "near future". That was July 2018. Lies or bull honkey, it's the same to me. I have 85 dissatisfied people that walk up to my desk and ask why Teams navigation is garbage.

 

$4,800,000,000 in profit in Q2 2019, but they don't have the resources to get this product beyond beta functionality. Way to go MS.

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Hey, I'm just regurgitating what I've read or heard from MS. I'm just as frustrated about this as you. They really need to work on their release date expectations. I mean I like the fact that we get to see what's coming, but at least keep us in the loop as to why you didn't meet the mark.
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@Chris Webb Heads up to this thread; it appears that Teams now has the ability to preserve sort settings (i.e. if you alpha sort, it stays alpha sorted). I also see a sync button in Teams, so you don't need to go to SharePoint to sync to File Explorer. This looks like the answer to this thread's request. Anyone else seeing this?

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Aw, nope I spoke too soon. It forgets to keep alpha sort if I navigate between teams or into a file... Maybe there is a setting somewhere that I can change now? It looks closer.
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@Chris Webb Ok, so I have had the chance to do a little more digging. It looks like the SharePoint integration is live. I also checked out the instructions on SharePoint sorting. I followed the instructions and made a new default view (AlphaSort). 

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The new view stays listed in the upper corner, but when I navigate between sections, it still defaults to sort by Modified.

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If I click AlphaSort and then click it again from the drop down menu, it will apply the correct settings. So it looks like the default settings should be updated, but they are not being applied?

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It looks like a lot of the infrastructure to make this work is present, but it is not functioning at this time. Am I missing something or does Microsoft's flagship file storage system still lack the ability to organize things alphabetically?

 

Microsoft reported $10,700,000,000.00 in profits in Q1 FY20 (Jul-Sep 2019). 

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Thanks for the update. This files release seems to be half complete to what we thought it would be originally. I don't know if stuff got stripped out or what, but I really hope they listen to feedback to make this actually bring the real SharePoint experience to Teams and not this frankenstein version we got.
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@Chris Webb : Just confirming what the comment above you mentioned.  Microsoft Teams has finally pushed out the SharePoint updated.  However, although Teams gives me an option to set a default view or create a new one in FILES, nothing but the original default view holds if you navigate out of that specific folder.  Hoping this is just a bug which is quickly fixed.

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@bgrant I found that if I had created a new default view in SharePoint, it would finally 'stick' in Teams if I signed out of Teams and back in.

Even with the new default view, the sort was still stuck on 'Modified' as you suggested.

So I vote for buggy :)

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@bgrant this really pisses me off. In the past it was (at least) one click on the header to at least make the list sort by name (which should have been the default), now its 4 clicks... because even if you change the sorting (2 clicks!) it does not stick, only the second time it sticks... This bug should be squashed real quick, as productivity is lacking... *big sigh*

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Create another view with sort set on name. Then it’s 2 clicks. But it’s a Shame that Teams overrides the default still.
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@Chris Webb @SjoerdV 

What's shameful is Microsoft reporting $11,600,000,000.00 in profits in Q2FY2020. Deliver garbage, don't fix it, charge whatever they want. I guess that's the power of being a monopoly? They clearly have the resources to fix this issue if quality was a concern. Chris, they don't pay you enough to defend them.

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They don't pay me anything :P. Trust me, I get just as frustrated with some of the head scratchers as you guys do!
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@Chris Webb Guh, zero is definitely not enough. Is there a way to contact their dev's? 

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This is insane. So, two years of being promised this most basic of feature, and now it's finally implemented... it doesn't work?


FFS

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@TheCruff 

 

Essentially, Yes. The fix i see above is still not even implemented in my language (Dutch).

My management has had it and we are moving AWAY from cloud, to many things not working but the cost is 3 times what we paid when it was all on-prem.

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@Adam_2019 It's not really a 'dev' issue. You can have thousands of 'devs' (and MS does) but it all comes to a grinding stop if you fire all the testers and make paying customers your 'guinea pigs'. And it's actually a great business model, because all 'burn-outs' are now externalized as well! MS is a very happy company [insert link to MS revenue slides], [insert link to great place to work slides] ;)

 

<cynical>What ever you do: keep posting on the uservoices, because everything will get better, really!</cynical>.

 

By the way, as soon as you realize this, you just stop caring and ask for a discount ;)

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