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When will desktop sharing be available in Teams?

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When will desktop sharing be available in Teams? That is a big reason why we signed up for Skype for Business Online Plan 2.

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@Jason Brown wrote:
That's cool. Just be aware that our adoption of Teams as a messaging platform (not just a SharePoint client) will be delayed until you add it. 

I don't work for Microsoft, just another customer like you. Voting on uservoice is the best way to let the Product Team know what requests have the most support.

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 Hi Michael, is there update on a timeline for when we will be able to share desktop during chat? Thanks!

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Agreed ...desktop sharing is NOT currently available if using the web application. I need to invite external participants to my meetings, and they often do not have local admin rights, therefore they can't install the desktop Teams app. We need screen sharing in the browser app.

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@Rob Barker You don't need to be an admin to install the desktop app, you also don't need an account. Think of it both as the client and the meeting join client.

 

Currently there isn't a way for a purely browser based app to share a local screen, browsers don't have support for it, they all would need a client of some description.

 

 

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If your IT department locks down software installation by GPO, then it doesn't matter.  You still can't install the client if you're not the Administrator. And most mature organizations lock down software installation by GPO.

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@Steven Collier GoToMeeting from LogMeIn supports browser screen sharing; users can join their web app and screen share (they can share their entire desktop or specific applications), so it's not a browser limitation. I'm not sure how they technically do it (you do click "run" on something, but it isn't a download.)

 

Teams needs a way for web connected participants to share their screen.

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The thing you run is a software download, just like the Teams client is a download. It also only supports Chrome and not Edge like Teams.

 

Here's GoToMeetings system requirements ...

https://support.logmeininc.com/gotomeeting/help/system-requirements-for-attendees-g2m010003

 

 I appreciate that one feels like an app, and the other feels like a browser, however they create the same issues to many companies that don't allow users to run downloaded apps using AppLocker. Being truly browser based, like Teams, come with compromises, like needing a client to do screen sharing.

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This is a catch 22 conversation.  IT departments use GPOs to block the installation of the client.  Why? Because installing software is inherently risky.  So to get around it, GoToMeeting created a Java app that runs in a JVM on your machine.  But that JVM requires JRE or JDK to be installed.  What if you don't already have it?  Java is inherently 'not super secure.'  So your IT department probably doesn't pre-load your machine with it.  So when you try to run the Java GTM app, it will say you have to install Java - which requires Admin rights or your IT department's involvement.

 

Anything that can take control of your camera, microphone, view your screen and webcast it requires admin rights or something that was installed with admin rights.

 

I'm not really super concerned with this. Why? Because I will just use Skype for business and federate with vendors.  So I'm right back where I started.  As a developer I understand the limitations.  As a customer, I don't care.  Just make it work like Skype for Business.


@Steven Collier wrote:

The thing you run is a software download, just like the Teams client is a download. It also only supports Chrome and not Edge like Teams.

 

Here's GoToMeetings system requirements ...

https://support.logmeininc.com/gotomeeting/help/system-requirements-for-attendees-g2m010003

 

 I appreciate that one feels like an app, and the other feels like a browser, however they create the same issues to many companies that don't allow users to run downloaded apps using AppLocker. Being truly browser based, like Teams, come with compromises, like needing a client to do screen sharing.


 

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@Jason Brown wrote:

 

Anything that can take control of your camera, microphone, view your screen and webcast it requires admin rights or something that was installed with admin rights.


This sounds logical, but specifically isn't true. Apps like Teams, and plugins like GoToMeeting run in the user context, store their code in %appdata%. No admin is required unless an organisation has taken other steps like implementing AppLocker to limit the execution of code. In my org we specifically add rules to AppLocker to allow Teams, WebEx etc to run.

 

So in the scenario where a user is blocked from installing by something like AppLocker, the fall back option is to use a pure browser experience. As common browsers have agreed a standard called WebRTC they can send and receive audio and video, with no plugins of other code. Teams currently supports Edge fully and Chrome (audio and receiving screens only for now) and is planning to extend this to other browsers that support WebRTC (Safari, FireFox). The rogue of the bunch is IE11, as it doesn't support WebRTC, and never will as it's not had any development for a long time now.

 

I think Microsoft are perhaps making a little easy to confuse people with their current offering. The summary should be in most cases, just ask your guests to use Chrome or Edge. If they can't or if they need something like screen sharing from their device, download the Teams client. It is the attendee client, just like GoToMeeting etc. also provide, as well as being the full client. 

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@Steven CollierI afraid I don't really understand the technical differences; GTM works without a download, so anyone can join the meetings and do screen sharing. I'm not sure why Teams can't do that. This is a show-stopper for our organization - if participants (particularly external participants that we have no admin control over) can't join a meeting and do screen sharing, Teams becomes a non-starter for us.

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@Jason BrownI'm not understanding your comments. The last sentence of your first paragraph is stating GTM won't work because it needs to install something, but my point is that you don't need to install anything - it just works for end-users joining via browser. The participants don't require local admin rights, yet they have the full functionality of screen sharing - something that I wish worked for Teams participants.

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@Rob Barker that's not true, using what GoToMeeting calls their browser view they have to be using only Chrome, and then download and allow an app to run.

 

For Teams they need to download and allow the Teams app to run and join the meeting if they want to share their screen..

 

I know it feels different, in GoToMeeting you feel that you are using the browser and the app is just a helper/plugin. It does require exactly the same permissions as Teams however, so if the user could use the GoToMeeting screen sharing thingy, they could use the Teams client.

 

It'll depend on each org, but generally the person organising a meeting is going to be the one presenting content, in which case for a guest to receive audio and screensharing in both Teams and GoToMeeting all they need is to use the Chrome browser (or Edge for Teams).

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@Steven Collierit could be just semantics that are tripping me up, but GTM purports that no download is required; participants join via Chrome browser and they have the ability to screen share. 

While it is true that usually it's the host that is presenting, there are many scenarios that you would want to promote a participant to presenter status. It just works in GTM with no effort or confusion, but doesn't in Teams. I'll test it with some external folks, to see if they have no issue in downloading the Teams app, but this seems like a clunky user experience.

 

 

from GTM (the link you shared)

https://support.logmeininc.com/gotomeeting/help/system-requirements-for-attendees-g2m010003

 

Join from a web browser (no download required)

Using the GoToMeeting Web App, you can join meetings entirely within your web browser (rather than installing and using the GoToMeeting desktop app). Learn more.

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@Rob Barker if you click the link there about screen sharing you get ...

 

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There are a lot of words there about 'download' and 'install'.

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Thanks @Steven Collier now it makes sense - you don't require any download to join the meeting and view someone else's screen share, but there is something to install if you want share your screen. I appreciate your help!

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This thread is great. In the end, we're left with using some other product to fill the gaps in Microsoft Teams.  Until those gaps are filled, adoption is likely to miss projected targets.  Take that as your problem statement, Microsoft.

 

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Yes, you're right. It's possible to run an executable without registering/installing.  But in a lot of big companies running an executable will be stopped by policy, app locker, or whatever.  The point is, to ensure everyone can use these features, admin rights or some solution by Microsoft is required.

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@Jason Brown there aren't any options for Microsoft or anyone else to be completely browser based and support sending their screen, as I show above. I suspect that this won't change, the likelihood that it's exploited by browser based malware that a company couldn't limit means it's just too big a risk.

 

Imagine your users going to some other site and it started collecting their screen, even with their consent, without a company lockdown.

 

I do think Microsoft could do a better job, they don't support video sending in Chrome today, and don't support FireFox or Safari that are also capable of WebRTC. Competitors like appear.in do this, Microsoft need to catch up. If they choose to do screensharing through this interface it'll involve a download of some component or a chrome plugin, which will then get routinely blocked by security conscious organisations.

 

 

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Thanks for the details @Steven Collier. There are a few features that aren't supported by Teams in the various browsers.

  • Web cam sharing - not supported in Chrome
  • Joining meetings - not supported in IE & Firefox
  • Skype Telephony - not supported in IE & Firefox

I'm not sure about Safari support - I'd need to find a Mac user in my company to test.

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FYI, my co-worker tells me that Teams is not supported in Safari at all - to use any of the features you need to install the desktop client.