Oct 25 2017 09:07 AM - edited Oct 25 2017 09:08 AM
Oct 25 2017 09:07 AM - edited Oct 25 2017 09:08 AM
Features I care about, when will they be coming?
Private channels in teams
Analytics of members in team usage and activity
Separate settings for members and leads/admin of team
Recordings of Team video meetings
Oct 25 2017 09:08 AM
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Oct 25 2017 09:10 AM
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Oct 25 2017 09:12 AM
Oct 25 2017 09:14 AM
The settings for team owners, it would be good for the educational teams to have more limit options for their students.
And I know private channels are on the way, just wanted a nudge that we are anxiously waiting. :)
Oct 25 2017 09:23 AM
Oh man I hope not. Groups are confusing as they are. If we have to nest them because of private channels it's going to be a mess.
Oct 25 2017 09:26 AM
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Oct 25 2017 09:31 AM
True. But what they should do and what the functionality in Teams will offer will likely be mutually exclusive. I can see private channels being the lazy way to not make a new Team/Group because it makes it too easy. And later on they regret that because then they have to start playing with complex permissions in SharePoint/Files (maybe Planner/Stream too, who knows?) because of that decision. The idea of private channels makes me anxious. XD
Oct 25 2017 09:34 AM
Yeah hopefully it is designed in a different way.
Oct 25 2017 09:37 AM
Agreed Matt. Folder level permissions for the private channel SharePoint folders... :( :(
Oct 25 2017 09:37 AM
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Oct 25 2017 09:40 AM
Oct 25 2017 09:40 AM
Maybe. Consider the complexity of branching and nested permissions, though. That stuff gets really complex really quickly. There are other ways to do this that are cleaner. That said, I get that it's important to you. I think a happy compromise would be the option for the admin to enable/disable private channels per Team. Some Teams simply aren't qualified and will likely make decisions they'll later regret (and blame on their IT team).
Many users are given too many buttons and they end up with outcomes they didn't know they should avoid because they didn't have enough time to train or consider the consequences.
Oct 25 2017 09:42 AM
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Oct 25 2017 09:54 AM
Oct 25 2017 09:54 AM
Sure. I would argue, though, that Teams was built to be simple and intuitive. Added complexity leads to that much more support time and unknowing mistakes/ad hoc decisions. Teams was built to make it so that 90/10 would turn into something closer to 90/50 by focusing on key functionality rather than building another development platform (like SharePoint). I'm not disagreeing with you here, I'm just pointing out that the goal of Teams was to sway that rule so more people got more into more features. Which I completely agree with; 90/10 is the reason so many people hate SharePoint.
Oct 25 2017 09:58 AM
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Oct 25 2017 10:00 AM
Honestly they just need to move Private channels like a "Group Chat" but it shows up as a channel in the Team. Files handled via OD4B instead of SharePoint etc. Difference with the Private Channel you get bot and tab support. Make the privacy exclusive to the Channel, dont' make private planner sub plans etc. gets too crazy.
Oct 25 2017 10:04 AM
Re: private channel/docs: Definitely true. But in practice, their Venn diagrams will likely be close to an eclipse. I think it will be more likely they'll want permission-controlled documents than not if they have private channels. And you have to plan that out; day-to-day users shouldn't just make an ad hoc decision about that without knowing the consequences of higher-level ownership responsibilities. That's all I'm saying.
Re: Project X: Project X should have its own Group, period. Store your stuff there if it's ready to be shared with the Group. If it's not, keep it in OneDrive until you're ready to share it with the Group. (P.S. I never recommend depending on search/graph because it's unpredictable. Useful, but not foolproof.)