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Arrange Videos in a Playlist
 06-20-2017
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I'm uploading a set of training videos and I'd like them to be presented in order. I'm putting them in a specific channel but the sort options on the channel don't seem to have a way to do that.

 

Either a Playlist or the ability to sort by name in a channel would be helpful

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We are planning to use Stream for E-Learning for our employees.

Right now there is no way to organize our videos as playlist or add them to different chapters, sections or using the table of contents feature such as Lynda.com or Pluralsight.com has. See attached screenshot or visit this link here https://www.lynda.com/Excel-tutorials/Getting-started-Excel/728368/787671-4.html?srchtrk=index%3a26%...

 

The only solution for us now is to create a SharePoint page names, for example, #XXX course name#, then create a table of content with different sections and topics and embed one by one video to this SharePoint page. This is not a convenient solution for us.

 

We are using an LMS platform, but Stream doesn't let us embed our Stream's video to our LMS system neither.

 

100% agree - Channels are not a solution to organising videos!

 

Look at Youtube - most channels organise videos in to seperate playlists within the channel. This is what Stream needs to do.

 

For example, a Human Resources channel would have playlists for 'Health at Work', 'Personal Development' etc.  The IT channel would have playlists for Excel, PowerPoint, SharePoint etc.

 

This is the no. 1 issue preventing our organisation in adopting Stream.

Typical MS pushing 'advanced' features like Live streaming but ignoring the basic stuff everyone needs like playlists!

 

Sort it out!

Senior Member

Agree completely with Michael above... let's get some basics done please! Arranging videos is the most basic need.  Even when I plug the Stream webpart into a Sharepoint page... it's a mess with no order setting ability.  That, and the inability to upload a revised video without breaking the link. Come on MS!  Stop with the bells and whistles and give us what we really need.

Occasional Contributor

I asked Dan Holme from Microsoft about Stream playlists/sort issues at the SP Saturday in San Diego. He told me to email him the question and a promised he will look into it. Never heard back...

Occasional Contributor

I think support of Stream embedding in PowerPoint is going to be released soon. I am considering to use it as a workaround until they provide us with some enterprise solutions.

Exactly - Channels are not a solution to organising videos!

 

Look at Youtube or Vimeo (which calls them 'albums') - where all channels can organise videos in to distinct playlists. This is what Stream needs.

 

For example, a Human Resources channel would have playlists for 'Health at Work', 'Personal Development' etc.  The IT channel would have playlists for Excel, PowerPoint, SharePoint etc.

 

This is the no. 1 issue preventing our organisation in adopting Stream.

Senior Member

this is really needed in a corporate environment.  

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so here we are 21 months later and still this basic need is apparently not important to MS. We are now seriously looking at other video platforms for our HR and other internal training video needs.

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It is unbelievable that Streams has no way to sort content... 

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@Allen and @Marc Mroz 

Any official update on this? This is honestly quite ridiculous that this isn't in the product roadmap yet...

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/roadmap?filters=Microsoft%20Stream

New Contributor

There is already a top suggestion for the 'Playlist' feature, should probably direct all traffic to that request instead: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Microsoft-Stream-Ideas/Arrange-Videos-in-a-Playlist/idi-p/797...

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@Sean Santella, I couldnt agree more.  We had what seems to be a similar situation ourselevs a few years ago where Developers had a long backlog of features and were picking and chosing the ones they wanted to do or felt "snazziest" rather than what the customer wanted.  This is the 3rd highest voted "idea" (I put that in quotes because the fact this wasn't in at the start is still beyond belief) and yet still has a status of "new"

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@Mark Moore , it doesn't help that there are seemingly two official platforms for submitting feature requests. They need to be combined or 1 of them needs to be deleted. MS needs to take responsibility and support seriously for the amount of $$$ these products cost.

 

  1. https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Microsoft-Stream-Ideas/idb-p/StreamIdeas
  2. https://stream.uservoice.com/forums/133762-general/filters/top

And then there is a forum which has users submitting requests as well... so almost 3:

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Microsoft-Stream-Forum/bd-p/StreamForum#M3087

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@Sean SantellaI personally think Uservoice would have been the way to go, but I would have expected them to close any other request platform down, but it appears they haven't.  Not sure if the uservoice one is my fault, I asked for that last year as it didnt exist, but now it does - https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Microsoft-Stream-AMA/When-will-the-ability-to-sequence-videos...

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@Mark Moore @Sean Santella I can really only fathom two reasons for the lack of response or progress on this. Either arrogance or incompetence.

Maybe if they ever get round to it they'll make a video and put it in one of their YouTube channel's playlists :)

 

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This is my theory why it hasn't been implemented. The original dev team missed it when they defined the use cases. Likely they were thinking of the exciting social media use cases, hence the "trending" and other useless-to-us feature set. Nobody with an actual practical use case involving multiple videos participated in the product testing. Everyone's testing involved single or maybe 2 videos, so nobody recognized what we instantly recognized. This is a phenomena so common in software design we always check for it at our 38 year old software shop, because we've made every mistake three times and nobody wants to have a customer point out an obvious deficiency in 5 minutes that the team didn't recognize in six months of design meetings. 

 

Once it was made plain that this is a deficiency, internal politics dominated the decisions. Either the product was not given resources because it didn't take off and it was obvious that it never would. Or the original UI designer, whose office contains a bookshelf full of books on proper UI design, told everyone that in the design meetings this feature came up but we chose not to, and he thinks it's an edge use case that is of little importance to the original (and current) target audience.

 

Keep in mind, there are one or two developers on the skeleton crew who maintains this app who are frustrated as can be that this simple fix hasn't been  put on the front burner, but they already made their impassioned plea two years ago in that meeting where the 50 something division manager glanced at the 40 something team lead to convey the message "can't you keep your people under control" and then that was that. This feature will never see light of day.

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@Nick D'Orazio I think you could be right.

 

Time to check out other video streaming services that offer basic corporate needs.

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@Michael Butterfield yes, the irony hadn't escaped me :)

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Stream Team,

 

Please look at this issue carefully and consider what businesses need in a video publishing platform.  Hint: we do not need a half-rate Youtube replacement.  We need a video publishing system which will allow us to communicate effectively with our employees.

 

Your platform has failed to do this because you are not listening to the users who are speaking up here and in other closely related feature requests.  Without an ability to organize videos for rapid consumption and in a contextually relevant way then the site is completely useless for most of the use cases I can imagine.

 

Please put your customer hat on, look at the service you built through the eyes of the consumer, and get to work fixing it.  As of now, Stream cannot be used for any of the needs we have.  We will just share the MP4 files in a network share folder because the 30 year old file system on our our server sorts files alphabetically. 

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@peteunicomwell said! Almost two years since this thread started and not a word from any MS folk. To say we are being treated with disdain would be understating it.

 

If you go over to UserVoice for this issue we see a post from May 30 2018 asking about this, but all MS have done is direct everyone wanting this feature right back here with a single response. Then they completely ignore the forum they have directed us to.

 

Here's the post from Uservoice:


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We do have Playlists on our backlog but we don't have a roadmap item around that yet. Please vote for this here if you haven't already - https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Microsoft-Stream-Ideas/Arrange-Videos-in-a-Playlist/idi-p/797...

It would be funny if it wasn't so serious to a great many organisations.

New Contributor

Bump, we have a torn internal user base operating out of SharePoint libraries and Stream based on the need to organize videos.

New Contributor

Looks like this finally made it into the official Microsoft Stream Roadmap from May 28, 2019.

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Occasional Contributor

@Sean Santella - thank you for giving us hope! Maybe not all is lost...

New Contributor

FINALLY!  As a work around, we've been using Wistia and paying thousands of dollars to have a playlist and share externally.  This is significantly overdue!

 

As a side note, Microsoft still hasn't replied to this thread or promised anything, we (the end-users/customer) are still doing all the work trying to find out what the game plan is!! :|

Frequent Visitor

If you haven't already, please upvote this idea.

 

Follow the link, sign in and upvote for arranging videos in a playlist. Less than 400 of us have done this so far.
https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Microsoft-Stream-Ideas/Arrange-Videos-in-a-Playlist/idi-p/797...

New Contributor

I really hope this addressed this month. Playlists are crucial for a video hosting platform. 

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Unable to get Upvote button to work. Playlist feature would be GREATLY useful.
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I go to one of my Stream channels today and look what I found!!! :smile::xd::lol:

 

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