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Hi there, beta users! 

The first major version of Microsoft Launcher after we migrate to Microsoft Tech community is now fully available for your testing starting from today! we are rolling out 5.3 release for you to try out, in this version we include several fix and finetune on UX fundamental and usability, and you will see detailed information on these feature additions in the what's new section below. You can now try this by installing from the Google Play Beta store. 
 
Here's what's new in Microsoft Launcher v5.3:
- Time/Weather widget redesign- Now you can have multiple widgets in multiple sizes in multiple styles for multiple locations! Also check out the updated and more detailed L2 page with hourly and 10 day forecast.
- UX refinements to the Home Screen, Dock and Search widget
- Tasks card now supports "My Day" from Microsoft To Do
- News tab now supports "Technology" as a news interest
- Font type changed from Segoe UI to Roboto
- Work profile customers can now get access to their work apps
- Beta community link in Settings changed to lead to Microsoft Tech Community

 
•  Go to https://play.google.com/apps/testing/com.microsoft.launcher
•  Click "Become a tester". You'll see a confirmation "You are now a tester." 
Moving forward, you'll always get the latest Beta build when it's available, as long as Microsoft Launcher is running.
 
The beta build may need a couple of hours or a day to propagate before you will see it in your Google Play download link, depending on Google Play roll out progress, and please keep the feedback coming! As always, we thank you for your support.
 
Gorden on behalf of Microsoft Launcher Team
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Microsoft

Hi, beta tester: 

a few notes about the changes in 5.3: 

- switch from Segoe UI to Roberto is to better display the app title, have dense version and avoid additional truncation and better display on other areas like folder and app drawer, it also help reduce the package size as well, for now, we prob will not provide an option to switch between this two and we will keep monitor in production version feedback on this. 

- for badge color, because we received many users' feedback on theme alignment, the readability and color preference for blue dot, we incline towards giving user an option to choose from blue and red, but at this moment, this is not a minor change so we are reverting back to red color display, we will make a complete fix for this in upcoming releases. 

- for icon size change, we listened closely from different channel and we are making a great deal of adjustments to make sure existing users' layout wont be affected, in our latest beta build we've already addressed this issue by adjusting the icon size level and also keep the original layout as much as possible, will keep monitoring on this. 

keep your feed back coming and we will adjust accordingly. 

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@NVader2000 Thanks for your feedbacks on work profile supports of Microsoft Launcher 5.3.  What we have done for work profile supports are:

  • Show all work profile apps in all app list, so you can open it from Launcher, add a shortcut of it through "Add to Home", uninstall it, add it to folder etc.
  • Show recently used work profile apps in the "Recent" section of app drawer.
  • Show new installed work profile apps in the "New" section of app drawer.
  • Group all work profile apps into a folder named "Work apps" in home screen, so you can access work apps quickly.

These work profile supports aim to improve the user experience for BYOD (Bring your own device) scenarios and has no relationship with AAD signIn status in Microsoft Launcher. As long as you have a work profile and work profile apps, you can use the above features.

You can install Microsoft Launcher in both personal and work profiles, but you can't set work Microsoft Launcher as default Launcher.

 

At the last, here are some questions related with your comments:

  • For the issue that you were prompted to enroll, do you use the same AAD account as the one for your work profile? we've tested that if the accounts are not same, you'll be prompted to enroll.
  • How your work profile is created? 

Thanks,

Microsoft Launcher Team

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  1. The app folders behave somewhat erratically. They tend to revert using 'Untitled Folder' in many occasions instead of the name configured through folder's  settings. It is not systematic, but so far I have noticed this behavior when moving a folder from one spot to another on homepage or from one homepage to another. Also, when an update of Launcher was installed, some app folders, not all, dropped their given names. When checking in settings of a folder with a lost name, the original name is still visible in the settings and clicking on 'Apply', changes the name visible on home screen back to the earlier.
  2. I have two homepages, the primary homepage is full with no free spots. When opening the app list from the second page which has free space left for new icons and selecting an app and 'Add to home', the app is placed on the primary homepage (where there is no free space) on top of another icon. It can be dragged from there to the second page then.

Android 9 on Nokia 7plus in use.

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@Fengxian - Regarding work profile & Launcher 5.3, will this allow widgets to have visibility to work profile apps?  I have the Outlook app installed with configuration for my personal mail accounts (using personal email accounts) and my work profile (using work email). I was trying to setup the Outlook calendar widget but it appears it can only see my personal Outlook profile.

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Such a great launcher. Coming back after few months away experimenting with other custom launchers. I only have 2 issues:

 

1) Is there no other option to get notification badge counts on my Messages app besides setting MS Launcher as device assistant? I'm on Pixel 3 XL and do not use Cortana. Other launchers can display SMS notification badge counts without being device assistant.

 

2) Timeline stopped working, was working few months ago. I am storing activity history on my Win10 PC and my phone and PC are linked. I'm logged in with both my work and Microsoft account.

 

Keep up the great work, @Gorden_Lin ! 

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@gerbir21 Microsoft Launcher can't change the visibility of  widgets provided by work profile apps. The visibility is controlled by policies set by IT admin and applied by device policy controller (which is the management app installed in your device).  Launcher is responsible for handling widgets adding/removing operations when they are available. 

For your case, can you see widgets provided by work profile Outlook? there is a work badge in the right bottom corner of the widget.

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search bar should be transparent. time / weather widget font ..looks not well for light color wallpapers not visible.
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@ksbajwa1 set as default assistant is the only way we have right now per Google Play policy on sms change in March 2019, if you see any launcher can display badge correctly for sms app without set as default assistant, please let us know. 

for timeline issue, can you check on your PC if you can see the Timeline correctly there? 

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@Gorden_Lin   Lawnchair and Hyperion launchers display notification dot/count without being assigned as device assistant. Only need to enable Notification Access to those launchers in system settings (I'm on Pixel 3 XL). 

 

For Timeline issue, this is probably happening because most of my activity occurs on my PC under my MS work account, not personal account. Timeline doesn't integrate with work accounts yet correct?

 

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@Deleted , good to know, and several feedback: 

- yes, Timeline currently only support MSA personal account, we do not support AAD work account yet; 

- for the badge count please double confirm below:

    a. is the Lawnchair or Hyperion version you currently using is a version they updated after Mar 9th, 2019? 

    b. if a is yes, can you see your SMS app badge correctly in Lawnchair without setting Lawnchair as either "default sms app" or "default dialer app" or "default assistant app"? probably revoke the sms and try enable it again if all above answers are yes. 

Google Play force this change this month, all apps without complying this should not show sms badge correct or they will be pulled from Play Store. 

 

Gorden from MS Launcher Team

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@Gorden_Lin   Thanks for the reply!

- Understood about Timeline and work accounts, thanks for clarifying.

- For notification badges, I was hoping there was a way for MS Launcher to display notification dot/count on my phone and SMS apps. I'm not referring to phone and text details in the feed, I only want the visual dot/count indicator on my phone and SMS apps. The other launchers accomplish this by accessing the user-granted Notification access. It is not permission or device assistant related. One launcher is in Play Store and was updated after Mar 9, 2019. My understanding of notification permissions is limited, but it sounds like MS Launcher has an all-or-nothing approach to phone/sms notifications? There is no middle ground; i.e. to access notification indicators without being a device assistant.

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@Deleted , thanks, for the notification, Google forbidden to request sms permission if the app is not default sms app or default dialer app or default assistant app. which means, if you are not one of these roles, you cannot even ask user for the permission, if you see any apps which are not one of three but ask for sms permission, they cannot do this after Mar 9th. and sms permission is essential to get notification count which will be displayed as red dot or the actual number on the right upper corner of an icon. 

hope this explain helps. 

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@gerbir21 Microsoft Launcher can't change the visibility of widgets provided by work profile apps. The visibility is controlled by policies set by IT admin and applied by device policy controller (which is the management app installed in your device). Launcher is responsible for handling widgets adding/removing operations when they are available.
For your case, can you see widgets provided by work profile Outlook? there is a work badge in the right bottom corner of the widget.

 

@Fengxian- re: widget for work profile applications, thank you for the response. So when I attempt to add widgets on a Pixel 2 with Launcher 5.3, I can see the Outlook (work profile) instance with the badge in the bottom corner. However when I add it, I only see the profiles associated with the Outlook (personal profile). Is this still related to policies from my workplace or is this an issue within Launcher itself?

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@gerbir21  Thanks for your reply! 
For your case, can you also see the widgets for the Outlook(personal profile)? If you can see, then it is not policies issue. 

I am sorry that Microsoft Launcher do have issues on supporting widgets when you installed an App both in personal and work profile. And we have work items tracked to fix the issue in following releases. 

BTW, Do you use Microsoft Intune for your EMM solution, As far as I know Intune currently doesn't support configure policy on android enterprise widgets.

Please find more details from:

https://microsoftintune.uservoice.com/forums/291681-ideas/suggestions/34446166-android-enterprise-wi...

 

Thanks a lot!

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@Fengxian No, we use Mobile Iron for our EMM solution. In regards to the widgets, the strange this is if I check for the Outlook Calendar/Mail widget, I only see  the icon for the work profile instance of Outlook (and not the persona instance). However when I select the work instance of the Outlook widget, I can only see personal profiles for mail or calendar. I hope this can get fixed in future Launcher updates.

Microsoft

@gerbir21  Thanks for your reply!

I am sorry it is a bug, we'll fix it and I will let you know when it is fixed!

Thanks for your report!

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@Gorden_Linplease do reconsider giving users the option to switch from Roboto to Segoe. Probably Roboto is better on other screens but I'm pretty sure there's a huge number of users who still prefer Segoe. If you guys still want to go on the path of locking down to Roboto before the new update, please give us a heads up because as for me I'd rather switch back to Evie launcher if that's the case.

 

 

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@earlmigrino , thanks for the suggestions, well noted and we will consider this with our design team. 

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time n weather should changes its color  with respect to wallpapers..

and also the status bar icons/info colors

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Great to see the updates but I am getting the same issues as @NVader2000.  My device is Intune enrolled using "Android for Word" and has various polices set to protect my company data.  When I install the Launcher from the standard Play store it picks up my personal Microsoft account, which is a different username to my organisational account.  Here I can view my personal calendar, contacts etc.  If I then try and add my Office 365 account to the Launcher I get prompted to install Intune Company Portal app and enrol the device, which is already enrolled.  I go through the enrol process until I get to a warning that it will delete my current device profile and this is where I stop.  I've looked at the default launcher and that appears to have standard and Android for Work version installed.  I've tried to duplicate this and install the launcher from the standard Play store and push it out from Intune but this doesn't work. I can see that I would be able to access my work apps with the launcher installed but it would be great if I could also access my Office 365 calendar etc from the Launcher.  I'll keep any eye on future updates in the hope that I will one day be able to use the Launcher as my default launcher.

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@Rob Clarke  Thank you for reporting the issue to us!

For the enroll issue you met when login to Office 365, could you please help to collect the following information?

  • A screenshot for the "DEVICES" tab in your company portal.
  • A screenshot for the warning that it will delete your current device profile
  • Then please go to Company Portal -> click the 3 dots in the top right corner -> click "Help" -> Click "Email Support" -> Click "UPLOAD LOGS ONLY" -> then Screenshot the result page which has a Incident ID. We need this ID to work with colleagues from Intune team to investigate the issue in details.

Thanks for your support!

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Such an ugly update. Switched back to Evie. Thanks for not listening to feedback. Would have given zero stars if it were possible. 

Microsoft

@earlmigrino , sorry about this, we discussed about the font change and users feedback and we will make it Roberto for now because of the following consideration: 
- Roberto is to better display the app title in our user experience testing;

- Roberto have dense version and will avoid additional truncation and better display on other areas like folder and app drawer as well;

- better fit in our design principle of adaptation to Material design in the future; 

- help reduce the package size as well, we reduced about 1M of total package size;

for now, we prob will not provide an option to switch between this two but we will keep an eye on this to see if this is a recurrent ask in upcoming releases, and revisit this once there is trending ask. 

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I really like the changes in the launcher.

On the positive side I would list:

- the option to choose 4 collumns for the dock

- pretier weather widget

- bigger notification dots

The biggest drawback for me is the new font. I don't like how tall it is. Perhaps you should provide an option for using the system font or bring back the old one.

Thanks for your efforts and keep that way.

 

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@Gorden_Lin , I think it's fairly safe to say that people really don't like the new fonts. Waiting to see if it's a recurring ask seems to me like " we'll wait until people stop asking about in a few weeks, and forget about it..."... It seems like a trending ask now. I love the launcher since the arrow day's, so I'm using it a long time and I don't like to complain , but it does seem to be an issue for a lot of people... 

 

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@Gorden_Lin

 

I don't know why you guys are pushing for material design when I thought Microsoft has its own fluent design.

 

I mean isn't this the whole point of having the launcher to make the PC and mobile experience similar and for Microsoft services to be seamless? 

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@Gorden_Lin  Embracing Material Design will just alienate your userbase more. We chose Microsoft Launcher because we don't like Google's UI and love Windows's design language, abandoning what made this Launcher stand out of the crowd is a major reason to ditch it. Consider this in the future, functionality is important but UI has a big role as well

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@Fengxianthanks for the response, I'll have another go in the next day or so and get you the information.  One other thing I noticed (just to add another thing to the list) is that my "Android for Work" Outlook app when opened didn't open my work email but my personal one....bit odd that.  Again I'll test this again when get the other information for you.

 

Rob

 

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I wanted to report a bug but I don't know how to post on this blog. Anyway the bug is that I can't edit the icon size since the previous update. It's set at some values and I can't change it
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@Gorden_Lin Can you guys please make the icon names appear in a sorted manner (Alphabatical oeder) in the icon pack selection screen?

 

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@simonz , you can report bug here: 

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Report-an-Issue/bd-p/ReportanIssue

for the issue you mentioned, we need more information including: Launcher version, your Android version, device type, layout grid  ( col x row ), icon size before and icon size now in Launcher settings, and better repro steps which will help our trouble shooting. 

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@Ratinvirgo thanks for the report and we will take a look on this issue on icon pack sequence. 

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@ipolitmatveich , thanks for your feedback, we will keep on improving the product. 

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In light of recent comments, I want to encourage the Launcher team that the UI updates in 5.3 are NOT ugly. In fact, I think you've done a great job with tweaks to the icons (like the microphone and image search icons), the search bar, the widget, the weather page, and the dock. Sure, I like Segoe, but I understand that using the system font decreases the file size. Keep up the good work.

 

Here's a screen shot of my current setup. (The dialer icon is just a 1x1 custom widget.)

 

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@Gorden_Lin Launcher version: 5.3.0.50373 Android version: 7.1.2 Device: Asus ZenFone 2 laser Here's an example: app drawer set to vertical view, grid 4X6, icon size big (but I also tried with standard). I save but they automatically switch to small. I can make them bigger only if I change the grid to 4X5 or smaller. But before the update I was able to set the icons to big or standard with 4X6 grid. With the horizontal view instead, I can't even change the grid size. Example: I set it to 4X4 or anything else but nothing changes, it's stuck at 4X6. Thank you for your help
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@JordanQ , thanks for the wording, and your acknowledgement is our motivation of keep on improving the product. 

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Work folder : yesssss!!!!!
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@JordanQsome people just prefer design consistency within their devices and the switch to Roboto without giving the users option to use Segoe is inconsistent in itself. Furthermore, Microsoft already has their own design language and adapting Google's Material design is just mind-boggling. There's certainly a significant number of users already voicing out their concerns of why the change of typography, small yes but significant. However, as per @Gorden_Lin this will not change until there is will be recurring ask which makes me thing that they will not act upon until you get bad reviews or even worse, users leaving the product just so you can save a few megabytes on file size. 

 

 

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I too am concerned that we're seeing adoption of the Material Design aesthetic instead of the forwarding of Microsoft's Fluent Design, which I consider far more mature and sophisticated in style.

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Fluent Design is definitely better than Material Design. I agree. But Material Design is still quite nice. This boils down to an old debate about whether a developer (especially one that has its own platforms, like Microsoft) should use its own design language in its apps across platforms, or adopt the design language of another platform when developing for that platform. Both sides can make fair points about "consistency" because each option maintains consistency in a different way.
 
In this case, I think it's fair to say that Fluent Design is meant for Windows. Even many of FD's best effects, like reveal and acrylic, are not available on Android anyway because they're built into the APIs or whatever for Windows development (I'm not a developer, but this is my understanding). This reduces the "Fluent Design" we could get here to things like square corners, fonts, and icon choices.
 
But honestly, most of us don't use MS Launcher just to get the look of FD, right? I use it for its excellent organization, search, and MSA integration. Oh, and it's not Google! I don't think people are going to leave the product over this, especially when 5.3 looks so good. If it really looked horrible, that might be different. Design does matter, but imo they've made good choices.
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Using the MS Launcher is supposed to give the best of Microsoft has to offer (at least from my understanding), you get good integration of Microsoft products and possibly a familiar space from desktop to mobile. Coming from Windows Phone 7, 8, 8.1 and Windows 10 mobile this looks horrible. Yes, they could not bring all of Fluent Design's principle to this platform but it's the closest we have.

 

I'm not too concerned about or would worry about people leaving because of the change of typography. What I'm concerned about is that they would only act upon if there's a majority of users requesting a specific feature. Ergo, if you're in the minority the less you're going to be heard.

 

Speaking of choices, they could have offered users a choice to use either fonts, so it seems more like a lack of it.

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The beauty of ML, though, is that you can make it look "Fluent"... or "Materialistic."
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Love the upgrades guys. Just have one issue. The calendar widget doesn't show when I add it to the home screen no matter what I do. Am i doing something  incorrect? I really depend on that widget for quick access. Please help

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While I agree with @JordanQ, I still feel that FD has its place, especially in this launcher.

Firstly, this launcher is meant to allow a user to customize their Android experience to their own needs. That is why many launchers exist. We might no longer have our windows phones or even the loathed tiles and start menu but by Jove, we can still have our consistent design language to get across the message that we can still make these android phones ours by adding a slice of Microsoft to an otherwise generic operating system.

Secondly, ML is also an on-ramp or gateway drug to the rest of the Microsoft ecosystem. pretty soon all the icons and all the apps will embrace fully the Microsoft fluent design language. Will the Microsoft Launcher group hold out until the last minute? There should be consistency.

Given the ability to load icons, I think we can also have a checkbox allowing a user to go full Microsoft as well as official Microsoft fonts and icons. The Android OS is, similar to Linux, heavily customisable by design. OEMs like Samsung, HTC and Sony constantly change the entire design language of their phones when shipping with Android. Why should the Microsoft Launcher team be the exception? Let us give FD in ML a shot.

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They could just give us options, like they did with the search bar. Have the option to pick between Roboto or Segoe, as well to pick between Material Design icons and MDL2 Assets icons. Right now the launcher is already using both (the microphone icon in the search bar is in Material Design but in the settings page it is in MDL2) so it's not a matter of space anymore
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@Agarcia0302  which calendar widget are you using right now? 

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@SOI_7 @James Makumbi , we cannot provide option for fonts or design style switch, because for every font or design language apply to the Launcher, nearly all the pages and features need to be revisited to make sure we don't have cut off, overlap and mis alignment, not to say we need to support 70+ languages which need to check upon. we can provide option for colors, shape or grid layout, but for font, shadow, animation, etc. we can only keep one set in the code base. thanks for your feedback. 

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Howdy folks. Is it possible to control pages back to the home page via the back button? Presently it's only possible via the home button. Thanks!

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@Gorden_Lin I understand your point, but if that's true that you can keep only one style set, you should look into this, because right now you're wasting space using two different styles of the same icon. Otherwise, if you're going to include both, then you can easily add a toggle to pick one of them in the search bar, because you wouldn't waste more space since you have already both assets in the current space

 

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