Possible bug - unable to disable Sidebar/Discover in Edge 111.0.1661.44

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Hello,

I am evaluating the new features in Edge 111 Stable for deployment. I have the HubsSidebarEnabled policy set to 0 (Recommended). However, the Discover icon still shows prominently at the top right-hand corner of the browser. If a user hovers the mouse over this icon, it opens the sidebar and causes it to stay open unless the 'auto hide sidebar' is manually toggled. 

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My expected behavior for this policy is that the user would not see Discover or the Sidebar unless they went into the settings and manually turned it on. 

I suspect this is a bug, because when in this configuration, the Always show sidebar setting is grayed out and can't be unselected by the user:

 

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It looks like there used to be a policy to specifically disable Discover, but the documentation for this policy says that it is obsolete as of v105 because Discover was moved to the Sidebar. I don't think this is exactly true anymore. 

How is this feature intended to work with these policies in this stable release? I don't want a thousand users to suddenly see a sidebar added to their browser and think some kind of third-party toolbar got installed. 

 

Thanks!

Andrew

8 Replies
It looks like it works as intended if I set the policy as Mandatory, so this increases my suspicion that the Recommended behavior is a bug.

@AndrewSAIF Hi!  In Microsoft Edge v111, Admins do not have the ability to disable Discover and keep the Sidebar.

 

I've spoken to the team and they have confirmed your findings.  In v111, if the HubsSidebarEnabled policy is set as disabled with Recommended level, the settings page shows gray out where users can not toggle on to show sidebar (this is same as previous Microsoft Edge version), users can still get back sidebar by hover/click the Bing icon in the toolbar.

 

If Admin disabled HubsSidebarEnabled policy with Mandatory level, both sidebar and the Bing icon in the toolbar will be invisible (users cannot get back sidebar).

 

There are additional improvements planned for v112, additional information can be found in Release Notes: Microsoft Edge release notes for Beta Channel | Microsoft Learn.  Thanks! 

 

-Kelly

@Kelly_Y 

Hi Kelly,

This slider seems to work as intended for me with the Recommended policy in Edge v110, which I have deployed currently - 

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It's only in 111 that I notice the slider is broken with this same policy. 

In the description for beta 112, it mentions that admins will be able to disable Sidebar and Discover separately, but it doesn't appear to mention any new policies that would allow this. Will there be new policies added to Stable to independently control Discover? 

Not sure if my feedback is important here, but I would rather disable the sidebar/discover features entirely than have them behave in an unpredictable manner when I disable them as recommended. My goal is to avoid unnecessary calls to the service desk. I'd like to leave these features accessible to users, and I'm sure you'd like users to adopt these new features as well. But if this is how it is implemented, I'm probably going to disable it as mandatory and only revisit this policy if I get an overwhelming number of user requests. 


Thanks for the response,

Andrew

@Kelly_Y 

It looks like the feature slider is no longer bugged when the sidebar policy is set as Recommended after updating to 111.0.1661.54:

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However, disabling the sidebar with this recommended policy still does not hide Discover:

 

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There does not appear to be a separate policy to hide Discover, besides the one that was obsoleted in v105. 

Disabling the sidebar by setting the policy as mandatory does hide Discover. So this is still my only option at this point, unless there are plans to address this inconsistency before v112 Stable releases. The behavior I describe above is identical in beta 112.0.1722.23. 

 

Thanks,

Andrew

@AndrewSAIF Hi Andrew - There was an update we released in Stable Version 111.0.1661.54 (Microsoft Edge release notes for Stable Channel | Microsoft Learn).  With this release, admins now have the ability to disable the Discover app and still keep the Sidebar.

 

The Bing icon/Discover app can be removed via the following policy.

 

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Edge\ExtensionInstallBlocklist

1 = "nkbndigcebkoaejohleckhekfmcecfja"

 

The extension IDs associated with individual sidebar apps can be found here: edge://sidebar-internals.  

 

Thanks! 

 

-Kelly

Thanks Kelly. I appreciate the alternate suggestion here. However, this thread is about unexpected behavior setting these polices as Recommended. The ExtensionInstallBlocklist policy cannot be set as recommended per its documentation unfortunately. So I'm still stuck setting a mandatory policy somewhere unless I want either the sidebar or the Bing icon to suddenly appear for all of my users when we roll out 112. Either disable the sidebar as mandatory, or block this extension as mandatory.

I appreciate the effort trying to find workarounds, but unless I am misunderstanding the intent here, the policies are still not working as intended in Stable and Beta.

Andrew
4 months later and this bug still exists.

Microsoft Edge Default Settings - Show Sidebar Disabled does nothing.

@Kelly_Y 

Hello,

I was asked to revisit this policy due to some of the buzz around Copilot. Here is what I have found the current state of it to be. 

 

It looks like when the HubsSidebarEnabled policy is set to 0 as Recommended, the Sidebar is still enabled for the user by default the next time they launch the browser. The "Always show sidebar" setting is correctly set to Off, but the user sees the sidebar anyway. If the user toggles the setting to on, then back to off, the setting is then respected. 

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We've had the sidebar disabled as Mandatory for the last 9 months because of this unpredictable behavior. 

Is there a fix in the works that would allow us to accommodate the minority of our users that wish to use the sidebar without forcing it on every user? 

Thanks!
Andrew