Dec 01 2020 10:58 AM - edited Dec 02 2020 10:38 AM
Hello Insiders! Today we’re releasing build 88.0.705.9 to the Dev channel. This is the final build for version 88, and is what will be going out to Beta soon, give or take another small patch or two. We’re also excited to announce the general availability of WebView2 for .NET as well as WebView2’s fixed distribution model: https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2020/11/20/announcing-general-availability-of-microsoft-edge-web.... As for what’s new and exciting in this build:
Added features:
Improved reliability:
Changed behavior:
Known issues:
As always, we couldn’t do this without all your valuable input!
Dec 01 2020 09:55 PM
Dec 01 2020 11:49 PM
@josh_bodner wrote:@HotCakeX I'm actually not sure if the panes not remembering their pin state is intended or a bug, so let me ask.
Thanks, I really hope it's not intended, because that'd be wrong..
also the new favorites and history buttons take too long to show their contents and requiring user to wait that long, and then click on the pin icon, every single time again, and wait some more for the sidebar to appear.. not useful.
Dec 01 2020 11:53 PM
@eduardobragaxz wrote:
An easy fix would be to not let us click the favorite/history button for it to close, then you'd be forced to click on the "x". Because when they're just floating over the page, clicking again on their respective buttons will close and reopen, and that doesn't happen when the pane is fixed. It just closes. To me it doesn't make much sense for it to remember if it was pinned or not.
it's not about closing favorites/history menus that open from the toolbar, it's the fact that when user chooses to use sidebar instead of the flyout experience, then it should be remembered, and Not require user to do this action every time, repeatedly, just to get sidebar.
If I want to use sidebar instead of flyout, then show me sidebar when I click on favorites button, why do I have to click on the pin icon again and again if I already chose to view the sidebar version.
Dec 01 2020 11:55 PM
@martinnn wrote:
A bug relating to changing Edge's design from Material Design to Fluent Design? Knowing the Edge team, they'll never fix it.
not really related to design systems, the ellipsis menu button was just a temporary problem, probably coming from Chromium, it's already been fixed in higher version
see
Dec 02 2020 01:21 AM
Dec 02 2020 02:58 AM
Dec 02 2020 06:01 AM
@josh_bodner Webcam detection is broken in this build. I tested and verified this on Google Meet and Whereby.
Dec 02 2020 08:16 AM
@sudokai I'm seeing this too, but only on MacOS, and not on Windows 10 with the same build. Were you on MacOS as well?
Dec 02 2020 09:13 AM
Thank you @josh_bodner
Very excited and WebView2 seems very interesting.
I really love password related features too.
Dec 02 2020 09:41 AM - edited Dec 02 2020 10:04 AM
@sudokai For me, it was on 10.15 (Catalina). I haven't tested 11 (Big Sur).
I've created a new topic to continue this discussion: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/discussions/webcam-detection-broke-with-88-0-705-9-dev-channe...
Dec 02 2020 09:46 AM
I'd just like to say a big thanks for 'Changed favorite folder flyouts from the Favorites Bar to no longer dismiss when opening a favorite in a new tab'. That's a sine qua non for me with a browser, and something I repeatedly asked for last year and early this year, but gave up as there appeared to be no reaction. It's a big step towards making Edge usable for me as a browser.
Unfortunately it came just one day after I belatedly realised that you've taken a huge step back for me with the downloads experience. Firstly, I need to be able to see info live during a download to keep an eye on how it is doing, like e.g. a display of the speed, which is lacking on the native Edge download shelf. The solution for this was any of a number of extensions in both Edge and Google Chrome extension store that replace the native download shelf with either a custom shelf or a dropdown from a toolbar button that display more info on how the download is doing. But the new 'open. save or save as' selection is on the native download shelf, so using any of the extensions that replace it means the 'open save or save as' doesn't appear on screen at all, leaving all the downloads to stall at 99% without the download completing or the display at any point of the save as dialogue. The only way to get the 'open save or save as' is to additionally go to the ellipsis menu, open the Edge Download page, and perform the 'open save or save as' there with all the assorted extra menu opening and tab swapping. Simply not acceptable.
And then there's the issue of the 'save as' always opening in the 'Downloads' folder. I've seen people complaining that it should open in the last saved to folder. For me it's more than that, because in Firefox it doesn't just remember the last saved-to folder, it separately remembers the last saved-to folder for each file type. I save anything from a few to a lot of files almost every day. Software goes into a sub-directory of one top level directory on my D drive; books into various directories at least 3 levels down from a different top-level directory on my D drive; pictures into at least 3 levels down of a top-level directory on my E drive; video/films at least 4 levels down a different top-level directory on the E drive; 3DCGI assets many levels down in yet another top-level directory on the E drive, etc. With Firefox this is very painless as if I'm downloading an .exe the save as dialogue opens on the D drive sub-sub-directory I save almost all .exes into, whereas if I got to save a jpeg the save as dialogue opens somewhere in whichever sub-sub-sub directory of the E drive I last saved a jpeg to, which will be either the right directory (especially of its one of a sequence I'm saving together) or very close to the folder I want. This is a HUGE time saver when downloading in Firefox. But as things stand now on Edge, starting with the now extra trip down to the download shelf to pick 'save as' on every download when downloading, say, 20 jpegs is bad enough - there MUST be a way to set 'always save as' in options - but add in navigating in the save as dialogue to a different drive and sub-sub-sub directory every time when downladng 20 jpegs, then 30 .rars or .zips elsewhere is just ... too hideous to contemplate. And as I said, I have downloading sessions pretty much every day.
I'm sorry, but unless you (a) provide a way to set it to always 'save as', or at least deal another way with getting the choice of save destination when an extension is in use that replaces the native download shelf (and the sheer number of extensions that provide replacements for the download shelf in both Google Chrome and Edge extension stores should indicate to you that a fair few users want this), and (b) have Edge remember and employ the last used directory per filetype when opening the save as dialogue, Edge is simply useless for my daily downloading. In fact the only way I can see of using Edge as my browser would be to browse in Edge, but then use the 'Open in Firefox' extension tool button to throw any page I want to download from over to Firefox to do the download in Firefox. But if that, then why not just browse in Firefox? So I will go on with Firefox as my browser for actual use.
Well, I got my favourite bar dropdown menus not closing after opening a favourite in the background a month or two more than a year after I asked, so maybe I'll get a download experience I can actually use sometime early in 2022.
Dec 02 2020 10:32 AM
@Kam We just pulled the ... fix into this build, so when it takes a minor update later this week, it will be fixed!
Dec 02 2020 10:50 AM
Dec 02 2020 10:55 AM
@HotCakeX Okay, it looks like we're actually tracking the favorites/history collapse state very closely to see how many people repeatedly pin it since we intentionally aren't remembering the collapse state. The data will tell us whether or not we should change the default behavior.
Dec 02 2020 11:05 AM
Dec 02 2020 02:10 PM
@josh_bodner I have some concerns about the metric you are monitoring. I am one of the people who supports remembering the pinned state. But since it doesn't work that way at the moment, I am not pinning favorites. In my case the current behavior discourages me from taking the action that seems to be the metric for how much people want this feature and I will not show up as someone who is repeatedly pinning favorites. But I may not be understanding how the metric is defined.
Dec 02 2020 04:11 PM
Dec 02 2020 04:17 PM