04-26-2019 11:29 PM
04-26-2019 11:29 PM
Have told this to Mr. Smiley twice and now, will share it with you.
Dev is, STILL, opening upon Startup to New tab. I say "still" because it is set to Startup to MSN Canada. Build 220.127.116.11, now, but, it has always done this. Home page is set to the same, that works fine. Canary is set the same , however, it DOES Startup as set.
Win10 Insider Fast Track went on a new Build today, too. Ergo, that's 3 new Builds in 1 day, if, including Canary.
04-27-2019 05:14 AM
@Drew1903 I'm not entirely sure from your description how your Startup options on Dev 18.104.22.168 are set, but it sounds like you set up the browser to open to "Open a specific page or pages", as in
and that you have Canary 22.214.171.124 set up identically. If I understand your post correctly, Canary opens the specified page(s) on Startup, but Dev ignores your "Open a specific page or pages" setting and opens to the "New Tab" page.
If that is the case, you might want to contact Microsoft Edge Support and report the issue to them. I've found that Microsoft Edge support is more useful resolving user-specific issues like this than Feedback is -- Feedback is designed to deal with more generalized issues, it seems.
04-27-2019 05:35 AM
@Drew1903 Please ignore "and that you have Canary 126.96.36.199 set up identically". It should read "and that you have Canary builds set up identically". Canary is now on what, about 188.8.131.52?
The point, though, is that the problem you are encountering is probably not build-related. Weekly Dev releases "are the best representation of our improvements in the past week" according to Microsoft, so what works in Canary builds during the week should also work in the Dev build. That suggests to me that the problem you are encountering is specific to your setup somehow. Feedback is designed to identify issues to be resolved in future builds, while Microsoft Edge Support is designed to identify and resolve specific issues users are encountering.
04-27-2019 11:01 AM - edited 04-27-2019 11:08 AM
I have reached out to MS Edge Support. I'll let you know what comes of that if, you like (?). Niether Canary nor Dev have been opening on Startup the specific page to which they are set. Just checked both, again, before writing this.
04-27-2019 11:51 AM
Well, isn't that interesting, that it is not unique to myself. Maybe, if it was reported to Mr. Smiley :) & MS Edge Support by more than, myself that would be good & helpful. Might be a bug. Could, would more of you, also, check this, please so we know if it's wide-spread (a bug) or isolated incidents.
04-27-2019 12:07 PM
I've not had the trouble on any of my computers. Nichol also has the issue, and that eliminates a lot of variables.
A possible variable that comes to mind, if you want to check it out: The way that I set Startup pages is to set the startup tabs up the way I want them (I use a different setup on each of the computers) and then I click on the "Use all open tabs" button. I don't use the "Add a new page" button and then add the page URL. I wonder if that would make a difference. If so, that would help MES isolate the issue for replication.
It is an interesting issue, the kind of anomaly that drives support people crazy.
04-27-2019 07:22 PM
Tom, having reported it (as a possible bug) to MS Edge Support as, you suggested, they contacted me saying they are looking into it. Time will tell.
Submitted, the 1st time, to Mr. Smiley :) the generic reply just says, "We received it", basically. Submitted via MS Edge Support, the reply refers to a specific "ticket request #".
04-27-2019 07:32 PM
@Drew1903 "Submitted, the 1st time, to Mr. Smiley :) the generic reply just says, "We received it", basically. Submitted via MS Edge Support, the reply refers to a specific "ticket request #". "
Yup. And if my experience is any guide, the matter will be assigned to a person in Microsoft Edge Support, who will stay in contact with you, perhaps ask for additional information, and keep you informed any progress. If they decide that it is a bug, then they will issue a "BUG######" number to it, and get more people working on it. MES is very good.
Here's hopes for a quick resolution.
04-27-2019 10:35 PM - edited 04-27-2019 10:37 PM
That's about the as I swear I saw Canary do it right, once & then, it didn't, wouldn't, again. We're, still, on the same Builds, but, I'll try (Read: test) mine again, right now... No change. Still, giving New tab, even though, set & assigned to a specific page.
Hopefully 🤞🏻 you're not, actually, losing your mind 🤪
And the answer to "How can that be?" is "Fun with 'puters" ;)
04-29-2019 01:37 PM - edited 04-29-2019 01:40 PM
I have had more discussion with Edge Tech. They had asked me to see what behavior there would be in an Added Profile. Since, I, already, have 2 acc'ts, mostly using one in Canary & the other in Dev, the excercise became unnecessary. I told that mine isn't an isolated case. He then said, he knew that & that, indeed, one of his co-workers has the same issue. Anyway, they are lloking into this deeply in an effort to resolve it. Will keep y'all updated.
04-30-2019 08:24 AM
@Drew1903 "I have let them know it is very inconsistent. It'll work right a few times then, doesn't. Absolutely irratic."
They will throw up a few machines in the lab and test until they've replicated it. The same erractic thing is happening with the on again off again syncing, and they've got several teams working on it.
04-30-2019 10:32 AM
@Drew1903 I don't really use "Open a specific page or pages." I only tried it for a while to confirm your bug. That's all. However, I just gave it a look (184.108.40.206) and I see a new option: "Set to all currently open tabs". I don't remember seeing that one before. Isn't it new?
Anyway, I just tried it with just one specific page. The bug is still there for me. Edge Chromium opened with the New Tab page. However, I tried two different things and got different results.
1- Had two instances of Edge open
2- Changed the startup preference to Open a specific page (entered a page)
3- Launched a 3rd instance
4- It opened with the New Tab page
1- Closed all instances of Edge
2- Launched a first instance
3- I got the specific page I had requested
4- Launched a second instance
5- It opened with the New Tab page.
04-30-2019 11:00 AM
I am seeing the same behavior, and I don't see a bug yet. I have reached out to the owner, and am filing a bug on this. Thank you for your perseverance isolating the repro steps.
04-30-2019 11:49 AM - edited 04-30-2019 12:12 PM
Maybe that choice is new, doesn't ring a bell, but, I honestly don't recall, for sure.
Yes, certainly lately the start up issue does seem erratic, unstable and unpredictable
Thanks for the info. It helps my discussions with the MS Tech about this.
And, I don't necessarily use it, myself or not all the time. Things must just work right. Your testing is appreciated.
Sent from Windows Phone
04-30-2019 04:30 PM - edited 04-30-2019 04:41 PM
Well, do I have something interesting for you; I’ve narrowed it down a little.
>> IF, hit the taskbar browser icon for Dev & Canary they open the specified page.
>> IF, open Canary from the Start menu, it opens to the specified page.
>> IF, open Dev from the Start menu, it > New tab.
>> Rt Clk menu for the taskbar browser icons:
Hit Microsoft Edge Dev OR Microsoft Canary (the green circled) it > New tab
Hit New Window (the red circled) that, too, > New tab
Edge, to compare (the expectations)
>> Every ‘Click point’ mentioned ⬆ > the specified page. Only exception, of course, is InPrivate.
Issue seems to be in both browser icons’ Rt Clk menu & Dev on the Start menu.
Interesting bag of mess, init, eh?
Anyway, I have given all this ⬆ to the Tech working on the issue with me. I, also, passed on all the anecdotal info you Folks here have brought to my attention regarding this issue. I'll, certainly, do the same with anything further... until & unless this issue is resolved. The effort is being made, at least.
It's nice (seeing) that the response has been prompt, personal & with an enthusiasm to rectify asap. But, has been since I went via MS Edge Support not, Mr. Smiley. A possible/probable bug (something seems 'broken' or not well built) is well addressed by MS Edge Support. Suggestions, requests likes, dislikes, praise & criticsm is most befits Mr. Smiley. If something wronly goes to Support (vs Feedback), you will be notified to submit to :) instead.
05-01-2019 02:23 AM - edited 05-01-2019 02:25 AM
Hi Drew, Tom and NicolSD, thanks for being active Edge Insiders and we really appreciate your valuable feedback! Elliot has filed a bug on this issue and it's currently assigned to our feature team to investigate. We'll keep you and the community informed as we make progress on the bug.
WRT the smiley vs support features, both systems are designed to ensure we're effectively listening and addressing feedback from our customers. Both systems are actively processing (categorizing and prioritizing) customer feedback and we have dedicated teams driving necessary actions (bugs/requests) to ensure feedback lands on right path to resolution. Our main goal is to ensure our customers are satisfied with how their feedback was handled regardless of feedback submission mechanism. Please tell us about your feedback filing experience so far and how we can make it better for you and our community. Thanks again for your engagement!
05-01-2019 04:02 AM
@Joon Chang @tomscharbach @NicolSD @Elliot Kirk
Maybe, you didn't realise that I filed a bug on this, I think, possibly before Elliot's. Sounds like we have 2 tickets & 2 Teams working to resolve the same issue. I have been having on-going corresspondence with a specific Tech regarding the matter. Between all of us working on this, maybe, it will be rectified soon(er).
And, btw, yesterday, when I said they opened correctly if from their taskbar icons... that has not been true today. Both are back to not going to the specified page. And both are opening to New tab from the Start menu today; yesterday one of them opened from there correctly.