Feb 23 2021 10:53 AM
Hello Insiders! Today we’re releasing build 90.0.803.0 to the Dev channel. We’ve got some cool things to talk about up front, and here they are:
As for everything that’s new feature-wise:
Added features:
Improved reliability:
Changed behavior:
Known issues:
As always, we couldn’t do all this without your valuable input!
Feb 24 2021 02:45 AM
This is a very good point, Edge is very unusual, in that on 64 bit OS's it's a 64 bit application yet is installed in \Program Files (x86).
Why is this? Is it some compatibility issue? It feels like bad practice...
This executable is actually a 64 bit process :
C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge Dev\Application\msedge.exe
Feb 24 2021 03:01 AM
@josh_bodner new build, same problem...
When starting the browser, the window stays empty for some seconds. I also get this error message:
"Profile error. Some features may not be available. An error has occurred."
If I confirm this with ok, everything actually works. I've signed out and signed in again, deleted all data, but the problem persists.
Update: I've cleared again all data and cache and now Edge starts immediately without a error message.
But suddenly I'm getting this profile error message when closing the browser.
Feb 24 2021 03:02 AM
Feb 24 2021 03:08 AM
Feb 24 2021 03:23 AM
When I try to "Send Feedback" (or press Alt-Shift-I) it hangs Edge. I tried it couple times with same result.
Feb 24 2021 03:24 AM
Maybe they need time to fix this, or maybe internal testing.
Let's hope they can fix that bug.
Feb 24 2021 07:07 AM
@mkoninin wrote:When I try to "Send Feedback" (or press Alt-Shift-I) it hangs Edge. I tried it couple times with same result.
when that happens, press Ctrl + Alt + Delete,
then select task manager, once task manager opens, close it. this should help getting unstuck and continue sending your feedback.
happened to me once or twice and i used that method.
Feb 24 2021 08:30 AM
Thank you for replying!!!
I use windows 10 home,
I do not use Insider version for Windows 10
Feb 24 2021 08:43 AM
Feb 24 2021 08:55 AM - edited Feb 24 2021 09:05 AM
In my case, the "white screen" has just started (90.0.803.0 maybe one build earlier). When Edge is launched, everything is white, including the title bar of the app.
At the same time, the non-dev version (88.0.705.74) does not have such a problem.
Feb 24 2021 09:10 AM
Feb 24 2021 10:54 AM
@josh_bodner here is an example of why moving the download bar from the bottom is a bad idea. There are literally thousands of sites with designs like this - all trying to help people find their downloads and use them properly. Your redesign SCREWS THESE UP - and confuses users when they don't see what the site is telling them to look for. Please restore the bottom bar. If you want a drop down download manager make it OPTIONAL or allow BOTH. But don't make it the default.
Feb 24 2021 10:55 AM
@Igi_PL yes, I had this same issue with the last version.
Feb 24 2021 10:56 AM
@bigfraggle007 I am also seeing this new error in the new browser.
Feb 24 2021 11:00 AM
@Lee Drake one of the best things about the download bar is that NEW DOWNLOADS appear in a predictable place where the browser could literally point to it and it was ALWAYS THERE. The new "download manager" doesn't offer that option. Depending on scroll position the download may be off the screen above the top scroll. The manager will drop down "wherever" relative to the content on the screen. Walking a user through using a downloaded file is now much more difficult if they're not used to looking for it in the manager, and depending on settings may be hidden altogether. It may be fine for experts, but for neophyte users it's going to be MORE confusing - especially if switching from another browser.
Feb 24 2021 11:36 AM
@Lee Drake wrote:@Lee Drake one of the best things about the download bar is that NEW DOWNLOADS appear in a predictable place where the browser could literally point to it and it was ALWAYS THERE. The new "download manager" doesn't offer that option. Depending on scroll position the download may be off the screen above the top scroll. The manager will drop down "wherever" relative to the content on the screen. Walking a user through using a downloaded file is now much more difficult if they're not used to looking for it in the manager, and depending on settings may be hidden altogether. It may be fine for experts, but for neophyte users it's going to be MORE confusing - especially if switching from another browser.
Are you sure you're looking at the right thing?
the new downloads flyout experience never does that. the downloads prompt always shows up in a Fixed place, top-right side of the browser, the designated area for Edge toolbar items.
not just anywhere on the screen and definitely not depended on the scroll position.
I've been trying the new flyout download experience ever since it was added to Edge canary, it never appeared anywhere else other than its designated place.
Feb 24 2021 11:39 AM
@Lee Drake wrote:@josh_bodner here is an example of why moving the download bar from the bottom is a bad idea. There are literally thousands of sites with designs like this - all trying to help people find their downloads and use them properly. Your redesign SCREWS THESE UP - and confuses users when they don't see what the site is telling them to look for. Please restore the bottom bar. If you want a drop down download manager make it OPTIONAL or allow BOTH. But don't make it the default.
just draw the same arrow in the opposite way, pointing to the top right instead of bottom left, problem fixed.
it's not really necessary to draw and arrow for people, nowadays websites rarely do this. but if that's what you wanna do, draw an arrow pointing to the top right.
Edge is not the only browser with a Modern flyout experience, Firefox which is the 3rd popular browser does the same. I don't even remember Opera, Vivaldi, Yandex, Safari etc.
the thing is, when a download is offered, Edge makes it very clear to the user and asks for input.
Feb 24 2021 11:41 AM
@HotCakeX I said RELATIVE TO THE CONTENT OF THE SCREEN. Let me show you. Look at the illustration I uploaded. This works on every chromium compatible or firefox browswer that presents a download bar at the bottom of the screen RELATIVE TO THE CONTENT the newest downloaded file is ALWAYS UNDER THAT ARROW. And the illustration on the right side of the content I just showed you tells them to click that specific download and what to do with it. The flyout appears at the top of the screen. I will do a download with the new bar and show you but depending on the width of the open window and the dimensions of the screen a similar arrow on a fixed website may be pointing at the file or at a part of the screen that is not anywhere near that AND the developer would have to design different screens for YOUR browser vs EVERY OTHER BROWSER OUT THERE to tell the user what to do, show that screen instead of the standard screen etc. You have to look at the ramifications of browser changes within the scope of DEVELOPERS as well as users. One of the downfalls of IE was that they did all sorts of "non standard" stuff in their browser to the point where developers threw up their hands and said screw this, we're just not going to support IE.
Feb 24 2021 11:43 AM
@HotCakeX the new downloads ALSO will show the currently downloaded file in a different position depending on where the user has scrolled. The old bar ALWAYS showed the newest downloaded file on the screen in EXACTLY the same place in the lower left corner of the the user's content window.
Feb 24 2021 11:44 AM
@HotCakeX you don't write many websites do you. Telling developers they have to "just draw the arrow in a different place because your browser does stupid stuff no one else does is - just stupid. It's a TON of extra work on the developers part to support this. And what if Microsoft changes it again? This is why IE got tossed on the **bleep**ter (among other reasons) because developers had to turn somersaults to support it.