Dec 17 2019 10:49 AM
Hello insiders, today we’re releasing build 80.0.361.5 to the Dev channel! This is the final build for major version 80, which means it’s also our next Beta channel candidate. This is also the final Dev channel update for the year; we don’t expect to publish anything more until January. However, we couldn’t leave you without some holiday treats, so here are all of the feature rollouts that have been recently completed for the Canary and Dev channels.
First, we’ve officially opened up the new Edge Extension Store for submissions! You can read more about the process for submitting to the store in this blog post: https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2019/12/16/get-started-extensions-addons-microsoft-edge-chromium.
Next, for the web developers, we’ve published an example application on our GitHub page that serves as a comprehensive API demonstration of our new WebView2 control. You can read more about how to use it in this blog post: https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2019/12/11/webview2-interactive-api-sample.
For our ARM enthusiasts, we’re bringing our native ARM64 builds to the Dev channel today! These builds have been in Canary for the last few weeks, and we’ve ironed out most of the major issues during that time. There’s still one known issue though: certain DRM video on some websites doesn’t play properly.
If you didn’t see it last week, we made a short post here about some of our work on the Mac touch bar: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Articles/Try-the-revamped-Touch-Bar-experience-on-Microsoft-E....
Finally, we’ve got three features to look for in upcoming builds.
Before we get on with the rest of the features and additions that are worth mentioning this week, you should know that favorites sync is still disabled for the majority of users. This includes brand new machines you install Edge on, so if you’re setting up Edge for the first time and want access to your favorites, you’ll need to manually export your favorites to a file on a different machine and import them on the new one. We’re also working on a deduplication mechanism once favorites sync is re-enabled, which should prevent new duplicates from coming in as well as remove duplicates for users who have already had their favorites duplicated.
Added features:
Improved reliability:
Changed behavior:
Known issues:
Thank you for a great 2019 and for all of your help building both this community and the new Edge. We couldn’t have done it without you!
Dec 18 2019 01:17 AM
@bogdancalapod wrote:@HotCakeX Well, Edge is based on Chromium code, so they inevitably will always be behind the official Chrome version.
True but only few days.
currently, Edge dev and canary channels are only few days behind google chrome dev and canary channels.
but for the stable channel, Microsoft is intentionally postponing and delaying the release to stay behind the google chrome's development.
Microsoft's Edge version 79 will be released in January 15 2020 while Google chrome version 79 WAS released in December 10th 2019.
Dec 18 2019 01:29 AM
@josh_bodner
Did y'all notice, since updating, that Dev & Canary both have yellow realistic-looking manila folders in Favorites?
Cheers,
Drew
Dec 18 2019 01:33 AM
If you want the users that are using Edge to recognize themself it should look and work the same way.
In light mode white folders on a white background is bad with good eyes in normal conditions. In bad light or with reduced eyesight it unusable.
Making it setable is good
Dec 18 2019 01:34 AM
Dec 18 2019 01:45 AM
This makes me very worried
"Hello insiders, today we’re releasing build 80.0.361.5 to the Dev channel! This is the final build for major version 80, which means it’s also our next Beta channel candidate. "
We know that the touch keyboard DOES NOT work in M80 until 3987 so please do not base a beta on something we already know is broken. Every surface using the old keyboard expirience or running on older LTSB will loose their keyboard
Dec 18 2019 02:48 AM - edited Dec 18 2019 02:50 AM
Please do NOT use the UGLY yellow folder icon
It's really ugly.
OR
let us set custom colors/icon for folder icon
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Edge's new icon
Edge's old icon
Which is better??
Dec 18 2019 03:10 AM
@Speednet Ugh.... No, can we get it back to the b/w version?
The yellow folders looks horrible. :(
Dec 18 2019 03:18 AM
That's not necessary. there is no rule for that, it's not supposed to be the same.
I don't see any indication that Microsoft wants people Not to feel the difference between old and new Edge.
all I see is Microsoft want people to give them a chance and try the new browser and forget the past bad memories of built in browsers in the Windows and so the first thing people always do after installing Windows Won't be to install a 3rd party browser on their OS first and then continue configuring the rest of the settings.
Dec 18 2019 03:20 AM
@poyi Hong wrote:Please do NOT use the UGLY yellow folder icon
It's really ugly.
OR
let us set custom colors/icon for folder icon
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Edge's new icon
Edge's old icon
Which is better??
Totally agree.
Microsoft made a good design for the favorites folder icon and then threw that away and copied google chrome. users didn't want yellow folders, we want to be able to set custom colors for the folders in the favorites. including the default gray color, yellow and many more colors.
Dec 18 2019 04:35 AM
Dec 18 2019 05:47 AM
Suggestion/idea:
Have options to set colours or even icons (e.g. briefcase, book, lightbulb) for individual folders, with an additional default option (somewhere in the bookmarks manager).
Individualised icons might help for people like me who have about 10 folders in their bookmarks bar (relating to work, studies, interests, hobbies, side projects, reading). That is all I use my favourites bar for, and I'm sure there are others that do the same.
Conceptual ideal case:
The browser could change icons automatically -- say, if I have a folder called "work" on the favourites bar, it could change the icon to a briefcase. The next time I open my updated browser it would say "Look, we changed the icons on your favourite folders. Would you like to keep them this way?"
Dec 18 2019 06:05 AM
@RobWuijster Well, no, the icons are most certainly not "ugly". That kind of over-the-top invective does not make a good case for Microsoft to listen to your opinion. You're also implying that the entirety of the Windows file system is "ugly", since it also uses yellow folder icons.
When looking at folder icon color, it is much better to use logic when justifying your opinion, such as the logic that using yellow icons allows Edge to match the rest of the operating system. Also, as many others have noted, the old gray icons were terrible because they did not provide any clear visual differences with the similar gray website icons. So Microsoft made a great decision to go with the yellow icons.
Dec 18 2019 06:06 AM - edited Dec 18 2019 06:12 AM
@SOI_7 wrote:
I'm sorry, but I love the yellow icons. Old ones were harder to identify since they were only outlines, and I like them also because they're more coherent to the whole Microsoft UI rules (folders are yellow not only in legacy Edge, but also in File Explorer). And I disagree about the resemblance with Chrome, because it uses a different folder icon, despite being both yellow
Sorry but honestly I don't know what is there to "identify". It's a favorites bar, it contains favorites and favorites folders, we already know what's in there.
Specially if you organize your favorites in multiple folders like I do, I do NOT need 20 repetitive colorful icons to "identify" they are folders every time I need to use the favorites. Since they are repetitive, they should be more subtle to avoid becoming visual pollution in the browser window like they are now. If it was a single element, it would not be a huge issue to be yellow, but that's not the case with a list of the same elements that can grow pretty big. In design, less is usually more! The content should be the focus, not the interface.
Yeah. the icons are not exactly like chrome, but it's the same in the sense that it looks outdated/not in sync with a modern design, specially dark mode on top of standing out too much.
In my examples bellow, the second option is way cleaner and less intrusive, and I have no issues identifying they are folders. I respect if people have personal preferences, but I don't think "identifying" the icons is an issue to justify this change.
Dec 18 2019 06:30 AM
Dec 18 2019 06:38 AM
@Speednet wrote:@RobWuijster Well, no, the icons are most certainly not "ugly". That kind of over-the-top invective does not make a good case for Microsoft to listen to your opinion. You're also implying that the entirety of the Windows file system is "ugly", since it also uses yellow folder icons.
When looking at folder icon color, it is much better to use logic when justifying your opinion, such as the logic that using yellow icons allows Edge to match the rest of the operating system. Also, as many others have noted, the old gray icons were terrible because they did not provide any clear visual differences with the similar gray website icons. So Microsoft made a great decision to go with the yellow icons.
It's only your opinion and there are hundreds of others that may be the same as yours and may be different.
you think yellow is the best, good for you.
for me gray is the best.
let's not say which group has more popularity because we can't be sure. and Microsoft shouldn't make one group happy and the other group sad.
I think it was wrong to change the colors to yellows without a proper public poll or survey.
because now there are people who don't like it.
There needs to be an option to change the colors. it's as simple as that.
See, that's a few colors from tab groups. they don't need to give us the whole 16 Millions of RGB spectrum, although it would be awesome to have a color picker :)
Dec 18 2019 06:42 AM
I made a proper respectful reply to someone else's comment and it was deleted as "spam". Moderator? Why? Please restore my message.
Dec 18 2019 06:46 AM
Yes there are rules for it - at least in the corp world. You do not wan't to break standards or reduce user experience because the users will reject it (remember win 8 without a startmenu?)
Any unnecessary change is an unnecessary cost for retraining users.
So lets now take a look at folders:
In File Explorer - they are yellow
in Internet Explorer - they are yellow
In Edge Classic - they are yellow
aka the Windows standard is Yellow
Chrome uses yellow too
Is white on white easy to see - no
is it good for seeing impaired - no
does it work well on tablets - no
aka it's poor user experience
Therefore Yellow is a lot better if you want to have a product that people will use instead of downloading third party software since it's the most downloaded third party gives yellow folders. For reference the most downloaded third party sw for Win8 according to an MS representative at Tech Ed was start menu enablers)
Dec 18 2019 06:49 AM - edited Dec 18 2019 06:54 AM
@thekylef wrote:I made a proper respectful reply to someone else's comment and it was deleted as "spam". Moderator? Why? Please restore my message.
you can message either of our 2 newly appointed moderators about the issue
Dec 18 2019 06:52 AM - edited Dec 18 2019 07:09 AM
@matsmcp wrote:
Yes there are rules for it - at least in the corp world. You do not wan't to break standards or reduce user experience because the users will reject it (remember win 8 without a startmenu?)
Any unnecessary change is an unnecessary cost for retraining users.
So lets now take a look at folders:
In File Explorer - they are yellow
in Internet Explorer - they are yellow
In Edge Classic - they are yellow
aka the Windows standard is Yellow
Chrome uses yellow too
Is white on white easy to see - no
is it good for seeing impaired - no
does it work well on tablets - no
aka it's poor user experience
Therefore Yellow is a lot better if you want to have a product that people will use instead of downloading third party software since it's the most downloaded third party gives yellow folders. For reference the most downloaded third party sw for Win8 according to an MS representative at Tech Ed was start menu enablers)
you mentioned those 4 negative aspects of gray folder colors. so why there are still people who are asking for it if it's so bad?
actually I got a new idea.
if the majority of issues with gray folder icons were experienced on light Edge theme then why not change folder colors in addition to the rest of the UI colors when Edge theme is switched from Dark to White. that is another way to make everyone happy.
Dec 18 2019 06:59 AM - edited Dec 18 2019 07:06 AM
One difference to me is in file Explorer the folders are the content! They can stand out.
In the browser, the favorites folders in the favorites bar are more part of the interface. They are repetitive elements and should not stand out so much and just become visual pollution and distraction. Focus should be on the content, not the interface.