Feb 07 2023 11:46 AM
Hello Insiders! Today, we are releasing build 111.0.1660.6 to the Dev channel for Windows and 111.0.1660.4 for macOS, which includes the new Bing copilot. For more details about the Bing copilot, check the blog post below.
Thanks again for sending us feedback and helping us improve our Insider builds.
Feb 08 2023 05:14 AM
I also lost the always open favorites in a new tab setting.
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Feb 08 2023 08:42 AM - edited Feb 08 2023 08:45 AM
Edge is indeed showing quite a bit of bloat now. And Brave is indeed a genuinely nice browser. However, it has shortcomings vs Edge. Compiled the following notes about that some months ago.
ESSENTIAL BRAVE SHORTCOMINGS (TO ME)
Brave has much less smooth scrolling of web pages than Edge (I use a Logitech mouse which enhances scrolling, but Brave is not supported apparently). Smooth scrolling is important when you read a lot on the web. And Edge scrolls pdf-files very smoothly too.
Brave does not save Tab Groups when closing the browser. In Edge, you store Tab Groups permanently in a Tab Collection. When you open a Collection, all the tabs that were saved in it open. Edge Collections also synchronize with mobile devices.
Brave has no way to add all open tabs to a Tab Group at once. Edge does.
Brave does not have a send-tab-to-phone (and Brave Mobile does not have a send-tab-to-computer). Edge does.
Brave does not support universal password manager. Edge has built-in Microsoft Authenticator (for logins, 2FA codes).
Because Brave Mobile does not support the Android Autofill Provider API, website logins cannot automatically come from your password manager set in Android Settings (e.g. Microsoft Authenticator). (Brave stores passwords on Brave's servers).
Brave Desktop does not put idle tabs to sleep (consumes less CPU). Edge does.
OTHER BRAVE SHORTCOMINGS
Brave does not have a "Display Icon Only" for Favorites on the Favorites Toolbar. (One must manually delete the name of the favorite, which is not desirable).
Brave Desktop does not have a built-in "readability" function for a "decluttered" display of web pages. Edge does.
Brave Mobile does not synchronize settings 100% between computer and mobile.
Brave Desktop does not have a built-in PDF viewer. Edge does.
Brave does not have a built-in webpage screenshot tool. Edge has "web capture", so you can save a (part of) page as JPEG.
Brave does not support "legacy Internet Explorer" websites. Edge has an "Internet Explorer Compatibility" mode.
And some other little things.
Feb 08 2023 09:15 AM
Feb 09 2023 01:17 AM
@jateruy you can disable them via:
edge://flags/#edge-rounded-containers
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Feb 09 2023 05:11 AM - edited Feb 09 2023 05:20 AM
People asked you for years to remove the bloody Profile icon when they only had one active profile to choose from. You ignored them.
You added this ridiculous, unremovable Discover Bing button that sends Bing information about the page I am browsing as soon as its moused over, regardless of the privacy settings I have enabled, and now the Profile button is magically gone, because it doesn't fit on my screen anymore.
That's the 2nd release in a row - that it is once again the top reply to your release notes. 3rd strike, you're out, I will dump the browser entirely and just go back to Chrome. It's the absolutely tone deaf combination of this stupid button magically making the profile button disappear that I thought was oh so necessary that was the straw that finally broke the camel's back.
oh, oh it gets even better? Why is there a ridiculous rounded border taking up 20 pixels around every tab?! The profile icon is still here, it's just way on the left now?!
HAHAHAHA. Fix it. Nobody wants these things.
@the5ilence no, these changes are offensive and absolutely uncalled for. This type of UI/UX design is exactly the kind of thing that calls for this kind of user feedback, because being nice about it is ignored, and being nasty about it is probably ignored too, but the latter is more likely to get their attention.
innovative
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Feb 09 2023 12:18 PM
@the5ilence 1. Consider the possibility that I'm not actually being nasty. 2. When I've screwed up like this, and received genuinely nasty feedback: real put down, personal insult kind of stuff, I appreciated it. I was still angry at the person for being nasty, but it was up front and did not mince words. I grew.
The people who post feedback for Dev or Canary builds are likely the "tech savvy" people that helped convince a ton of other people "Edge isn't so bad, you should check it out."
I won't be doing any of that if it's bloated and invasive out of the box. An undisable-able, unremovable "feature" that immediately and instantly sends telemetry when you accidentally hover over it is worthy of outrage. Especially if it's so poorly implemented as to crash your browser if you close a tab with it still open.
Extra whitespace/padding isn't universally worthy of outrage, but I'll still complain about it.
Feb 09 2023 10:36 PM - edited Feb 09 2023 10:38 PM
FYI, just noticed that the Split Screen option, previously only present in Edge Canary, is now also available in Edge Dev, via this flag:
When enabled, you will see a Split Screen icon in the Toolbar.
Read more about this feature here:
https://techpointmag.com/how-to-enable-split-screen-in-microsoft-edge/
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