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I agree, the term Cortana makes no sense in this feature, they could switch to something like "what is this" or "quick search".
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Yeah, better save Cortana for smarter abilities :)
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@viniciusbezerra 

Vini,

That is a rather neat idea.

I'll suggest it's a marketing thing to keep Cortana in Users' thoughts & awareness.  May help bring them to all the powerful assistance it can bring to their lives, all the talents & tools it offers (including search).

NB: Search & Cortana are, also, now separated. Search is all well & good, but, Cortana is that & a whole lot more (for people). Ergo, there is a desire to have people thinking of & using Cotana (for their benifit).

Cheers,
Drew

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Looks like Edge developers are only considering Cortana to do a sidebar search in the browser, very limited ability to be honest, I hope they expand it and make the whole browser smart with the Cortana AI.
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"A sidebar sounds good but not a sidebar like collection's sidebar where it pushes the web contents to the left to make room for itself instead of overlaying the web contents.

when it pushes web contents to the left, it breaks the original view, can create problems, can force an already loaded heavy page to need to reload etc." - HotCakeX

I was asking why the sidebar pushing things to the left would actually need to reload the website; a user can resize an entire window without having to reload anything.

I should have mentioned that I am in the A/B testing group that still hasn't gotten Collections, so I don't know what it does to websites when activated. I don't really feel like turning it on; that would somewhat defeat the purpose of A/B testing.
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@WolfIcefang Collections is available as a flag to everyone...

 

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@WolfIcefang 

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@WolfIcefang wrote:
"A sidebar sounds good but not a sidebar like collection's sidebar where it pushes the web contents to the left to make room for itself instead of overlaying the web contents.

when it pushes web contents to the left, it breaks the original view, can create problems, can force an already loaded heavy page to need to reload etc." - HotCakeX

I was asking why the sidebar pushing things to the left would actually need to reload the website; a user can resize an entire window without having to reload anything.

I should have mentioned that I am in the A/B testing group that still hasn't gotten Collections, so I don't know what it does to websites when activated. I don't really feel like turning it on; that would somewhat defeat the purpose of A/B testing.

I personally hate A/B testing because not everyone will have access to the same set of features.

Google chrome canary has more user base than Edge canary yet they don't need A/B testing.

 

Collections can only be activated using the flag

 

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@HotCakeX More than that, they have the instantbsearch feature, also without any add-ons.

Instead of having a sidebar search, the new search appears on top of the website you're using, without the need to open a new tab.

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@FedeDiLo 


@FedeDiLo wrote:

@HotCakeX More than that, they have the instantbsearch feature, also without any add-ons.

Instead of having a sidebar search, the new search appears on top of the website you're using, without the need to open a new tab.


Hey, sorry could you quote me on that? because i lost the track of the comment you replied to x)

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The one about opera addon
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Oh yes your right,
I used to use Opera a lot more when it was still using Presto engine. after switching to Chromium, i switched to Google chrome because it was better, but now they have added lots of unique features that one can barely call it a Chrome clone
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@FedeDiLo 

"without the need to open a new tab.", F

That ^ is the big deal to all this!

Cheers,
Drew

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That's not Cortana though, it's just a normal feature any browser can have
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Cortana should be integrated too though.
On some websites I expect like to find her logo somewhere to enhance my experience someway.
Like idk when I'm listening to music she may suggest to show me the lyrics, or when I'm on Amazon she may show me the reviews or alternatives of a product, or when I'm booking a ticket she may show cheaper alternatives and suggestions.
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She's a powerful woman, that's for sure! And, certainly, a very helpful ole soul, too!

Cheers,
Drew

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Yeah these are more like the things that an AI like Cortana should handle

 

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@Drew1903 

 

VERY helpful

 

Latest Version: 1.1911.21713.0

 

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I only said "Hi". she can't even say Hi back to me. it's been like this for almost 1 month now.

they removed so many built in options in its settings too.
they are removing Cortana from Android too.
things aren't going well.

 

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@Elliot Kirk  I use this feature to check meaning of some words while reading any article, search for the review of any movie so that I could decide whether I watch that or not and many other stuff. These all were very handy and I didn't had to launch a new tab every time to perform those actions.

But now since they are absent in the new edge browser, I don't find edge better than Google Chrome.

Those are some features of the edge due to which I shifted to edge browser otherwise Google chrome was working just fine for me.

Please take in consideration and bring this handy feature back in the browser.

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@HotCakeX  There was some news that Microsoft is trying to kill cortana. They've already removed it from android and also now in windows itself cortana is no smart than she used to be before. 

Microsoft is now only focusing on it's enterprise area and killing off the sections which are not much useful.

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@NightCrawler11 

Don't necessarily always believe everything you read.  It's not always the 'gospel' it wants people to think it is.  And oft when not from MS itself one should be especially guarded & cautious.

And considering MS just recently separated Search & Cortana, thereby heightening her identity... and she is becoming increasingly more powerful & capable (more abilities) & tied to more places or things, evolving and improving as time passes.

Cheers,
Drew

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@NightCrawler11 @Elliot_Kirk 

Look, Elliot, another new person expressing the same ole stuff (as SO many before)...

Wonder, is the Team getting the hint (??)

"Power to the People!"

Cheers,
Drew

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@NightCrawler11 


@NightCrawler11 wrote:

@HotCakeX  There was some news that Microsoft is trying to kill cortana. They've already removed it from android and also now in windows itself cortana is no smart than she used to be before. 

Microsoft is now only focusing on it's enterprise area and killing off the sections which are not much useful.


 

Yeah and it's not good, Google assistance and other AIs like Alexa or Siri are improving. Microsoft is leaving the door open for them to thrive and for Cortana to lose market share.

Enterprise is important but so are the normal consumers who need AIs and they do use it on daily basis.

 

 

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Don't necessarily always believe everything you read.  It's not always the 'gospel' it wants people to think it is.  And oft when not from MS itself one should be especially guarded & cautious.

And considering MS just recently separated Search & Cortana, thereby heightening her identity... and she is becoming increasingly more powerful & capable (more abilities) & tied to more places or things, evolving and improving as time passes.

I don't know where those super turbo capabilities of Cortana are, I ain't seeing no power in Windows nor Android.

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@Drew1903 wrote:

another new person expressing the same ole stuff (as SO many before)...
Wonder, is the Team getting the hint
Power to the People!

 

currently in Edge classic, there is no sign of Cortana.

Microsoft Edge 44.19037.1.0

Microsoft EdgeHTML 18.19037

Windows 10 build 19037.1

 

no word about "Cortana" in the Edge settings neither. only there is option to ask Bing

 

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@Drew1903 

Is this how cortana is getting more intelligent and smart..

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Lol she can only do whatever she suggests at the bottom, other than that it will be too confusing for her :face_with_tears_of_joy:
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@Elliot Kirk Yes i will love Cortana support. But i want easy way to get access to cortana.

 

Drag the sentence and cortana icon flow on sentence without right clicking it.

And show the result in small window.

 

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@Elliot Kirk 

evidement que l'option "demander à Cortana" est cool ! le panneau latéral pourrait par contre avoir une plus belle interface et plus ergonomique

 

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Obviously the "ask Cortana" option is cool! the side panel could have a nicer and more ergonomic interface

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Hi @Elliot Kirk. I usually use Ask Cortana functionally while studying. It is very helpful for finding relevant information about unknown terminologies. Please please, keep this functionality in Edge Chromium as well. Its a life saver for students. 

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I used this all the time and really miss it.

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Absolutely! Same here, me, too.

Cheers,
Drew

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The right-click and search for "..." option in most browsers (Chrome, Firefox etc) does the same :)

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@HotCakeX 

The Cortana can be used to search phrases from PDF in the internet. For example, you could select "Bill Clinton" and select Ask Cortana. In side panel you can reach information about Bill Clinton to mark something on PDF document.

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I see, but does a simple side panel like that or right-click and search for a phrase need something like an AI (Artificial Intelligence)?
Vivaldi browser has the exact same functionality, it's even more feature rich, yet it doesn't use any AI like Cortana.

my point is, if Microsoft is deciding to use Cortana, at least make it worth the effort. make the browser really smart, something that is on the same level as an AI, not like a simple side bar to show search results..

Google Assistant, Alexa, Siri, they are all AIs too and look what they can do..

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Firefox has recently released the beta version of their open source AI add-on that makes Firefox smart and controllable by voice commands, called Firefox Voice.

 

Microsoft has also planned to integrate Cortana with the new Edge browser

discussion link:

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Discussions/Ask-Cortana-Ask-Bing-Discussion/m-p/1017941

 

but based on what the post says and what most of the people ask, they just want to add a simple side bar to ask Cortana something and then on the sidebar you get the search results. that's it. so simple.

that doesn't need an AI like Cortana because there is nothing Intelligent about it. it can be done using an extension and any browser can do it. in fact browsers like Opera and Vivaldi already incorporate such feature without an AI.

 

meanwhile Firefox is creating their own AI to make Firefox smarter and Their way is The Correct way.

there are so many useful commands and they just keep evolving, controlling the browser with voice, doing searches by voice, they are just the beginning.

 

as a Microsoft fan and Edge lover, I sincerely and genuinely do hope Microsoft listen to this feedback and make Edge "Really" smart with Cortana. Not only for just doing simple sidebar searches, but A lot more.

 

 

Related links:

https://events.mozilla.org/firefoxvoicecampaign

https://github.com/mozilla/firefox-voice

https://voice.mozilla.org/en

 

 

 

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Search the web

Returns results from the default search engine.

(Example)

Search for hiking in Denver

Look up recipes for fish tacos


Search a specific website
Returns results from search feature on a specific website.
(Example)

Search my Gmail for tickets to Hamilton

Look up The Book Thief on GoodReads

Search CSS grid on MDN

Supported sites: Gmail, Google Docs, Google Calendar, Google Slides, Google Maps, MDN, GoodReads, Spotify, Amazon, Wikipedia, Yelp, Twitter, Reddit, Amazon Music, Google Play Music, Pandora, SoundCloud, YouTube, Vimeo, Netflix, StubHub, TicketMaster, Instagram, LinkedIn, Quora, Pinterest, Facebook, Stack Exchange, Dictionary, Thesaurus, DuckDuckGo, Amazon Maps, DuckDuckGo Images, Google Drive, Google Images, Google Scholar, Google Sheets, Google Translate, OpenStreetMap, TuneIn.



Go to website / webpage
Opens new tab with requested website or a specific web page based on the top search result.
(Example)

Go to the New York Times

Show me the 49ers schedule

Go to the Health section of the BBC


Ask a question
Displays answer in a card.
(Example)

Who created breaking bad?

Who won the World Series game last night?

How deep is the Marianas Trench?



Play music / video
Plays a song, video, or artist.
(Example)

Play Green Day on Spotify

Play yesterday's Daily Show

Play Old Town Road

Supported sites: YouTube, Spotify, more coming soon...



Audio / video controls
Control playback within the browser.
(Example)

Play (to control active tab)

Mute (all tabs)

Pause

Next



Read to me
Reads an active article out loud.
(Example)

Read this page



Weather
Displays weather for the requested location
(Example)

Show me weather in Flagstaff, Arizona

What's the temperature in San Antonio?



Translate
Translate a webpage, phrase, or word.
(Example)

Translate this webpage (to English)

How do you say 'what time is it' in Spanish?



Traffic and Maps
(Example)

Find the nearest sushi on maps

How long will it take to get to Springfield?

How do I get to the hardware store?



Timer
Sets a timer using a webpage.
(Example)

Set a timer for 5 minutes.


Find tab
Finds one tab among many by making requested tab active.
(Example)

Find calendar tab



Browser controls
Use your voice for common Firefox actions.
(Example)

Close tab

Pin tab

Duplicate tab

Move tab to a new window

Open new tab

Open new window

Reload this page

Print

Save as pdf

Open my single sign on bookmark



Clipboard / copy and paste
Copy and paste from the clipboard
(Example)

Copy (copies whatever is selected)

Copy link

Copy title

Copy Markdown link (copies [title](url))

Copy rich link (a link you can paste into docs.google.com etc.)

Copy screenshot

Copy full page screenshot

Paste



Giving commands nicknames (experimental)
Create names or shortcuts for actions.
(Example)

Say "open new york times", then "Give that the name news"

news (will open nytimes.com)

Give the last 3 the name news

Remove the nickname news


  • Default Search Engine support: far and away the most popular request. Firefox Voice now uses your default search engine for any voice search.
  • Copy & Paste: try saying things like “Copy link”, “Copy title” and “Paste”
  • New browser controls: try “Save as pdf”, “Reload”, “Move to a new window”



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This is How Microsoft should implement Cortana by learning from Firefox Voice

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/discussions/this-is-how-microsoft-should-implement-cortana-by...
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@Elliot Kirk 

 

These commands would be useful to implement in Cortana to make Edge smart and control it by voice

 

Search the web

Returns results from the default search engine.

(Example)

Search for hiking in Denver

Look up recipes for fish tacos


Search a specific website
Returns results from search feature on a specific website.
(Example)

Search my Gmail for tickets to Hamilton

Look up The Book Thief on GoodReads

Search CSS grid on MDN



Go to website / webpage
Opens new tab with requested website or a specific web page based on the top search result.
(Example)

Go to the New York Times

Show me the 49ers schedule

Go to the Health section of the BBC


Ask a question
Displays answer in a card.
(Example)

Who created breaking bad?

Who won the World Series game last night?

How deep is the Marianas Trench?



Play music / video
Plays a song, video, or artist.
(Example)

Play Green Day on Spotify

Play yesterday's Daily Show

Play Old Town Road



Audio / video controls
Control playback within the browser.
(Example)

Play (to control active tab)

Mute (all tabs)

Pause

Next



Read to me
Reads an active article out loud.
(Example)

Read this page



Weather
Displays weather for the requested location
(Example)

Show me weather in Flagstaff, Arizona

What's the temperature in San Antonio?



Translate
Translate a webpage, phrase, or word.
(Example)

Translate this webpage (to English)

How do you say 'what time is it' in Spanish?



Traffic and Maps
(Example)

Find the nearest sushi on maps

How long will it take to get to Springfield?

How do I get to the hardware store?



Timer
Sets a timer using a webpage.
(Example)

Set a timer for 5 minutes.


Find tab
Finds one tab among many by making requested tab active.
(Example)

Find calendar tab



Browser controls
Use your voice for common Firefox actions.
(Example)

Close tab

Pin tab

Duplicate tab

Move tab to a new window

Open new tab

Open new window

Reload this page

Print

Save as pdf

Open my single sign on bookmark



Clipboard / copy and paste
Copy and paste from the clipboard
(Example)

Copy (copies whatever is selected)

Copy link

Copy title

Copy Markdown link (copies [title](url))

Copy rich link (a link you can paste into docs.google.com etc.)

Copy screenshot

Copy full page screenshot

Paste



Giving commands nicknames (experimental)
Create names or shortcuts for actions.
(Example)

Say "open new york times", then "Give that the name news"

news (will open nytimes.com)

Give the last 3 the name news

Remove the nickname news

 

 

 

https://voice.mozilla.org/en

That link, Mozilla is providing voices for lots of languages, Not just English.

if Cortana is going to be implemented into Edge, it needs to support lots of languages other than English.

 

 

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@HotCakeX Thanks for the feedback! I'm going to merge this thread with the existing Cortana discussion that you linked, so that @Elliot_Kirk can track all of the suggestions together.

 

Fawkes (they/them)
Project & Community Manager - Microsoft Edge

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Please do not bring back something that's works only for US @Elliot Kirk 

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@Yannick Plavonil 


@Yannick Plavonil wrote:

Please do not bring back something that's works only for US @Elliot Kirk 


I truly agree with you!

 

Microsoft needs to use these open source voices contributed by Millions of people in the world from all parts of the world and use them in Cortana to make it multilingual and responsive to all languages.

 

multilingual doesn't mean only a few popular languages such as English, German, Fresh etc, nope, there are LOTS of languages and they are all important.

 

https://voice.mozilla.org/en

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@Elliot Kirk  I'll be controversial here. I'm not sure whats the point of Cortana? I was a big fan (being a Halo nut - shame that doesn't run on Windows 10 - another gripe) and I started using her services as soon as my Lumia 920 received the update. She worked pretty well for a year or so, but these days she just says "Cant connect at the moment". If I buy a droid, I'll be able to ask Google, if I buy a fruityphone I'll ask Siri, but I like my Lumia.

Am I likely to start shouting at my Surface in the office or on the tube? Possibly, but it wont be because I'm talking to Cortana... 

I was one of the suckers who bought a Band 2 thinking I'd be able to help my blind mother-in-law - let her wear the band and talk to Cortana to check the time etc. The Band was way too fragile to give to a blind person, the replacement (after the strap broke) actually dropped off my wrist.  Yes I got the refund, thanks. I bought a Casio resin watch for £20 - I'll probably need to change the coin cell some time in 2025.

Now what about the Kinects I have sitting in the drawer? I'm so glad I didn't spend £3500 on a Hololens (with no warranty!!!).

 

Anyone spotting a pattern here? 

 

Integrating Cortana into a Windows 10 version of Halo, so I can play as Master Chief & tell her what to do, now that would be a killer game, but about as likely as the Halo movie.

As Neill Blomkamp said "a clusterf**k from day 1"