Academic OVS-ES FTE count versus actual count

[Jennie_Maier]

Looking to find out what has to be quoted via FTE count versus actual user/device count. I know the base product needs to be at FTE count.  What about Endpoint Configuration Manager?  I know that anything that can be purchased as a FTE, needs to be purchased that way, but Endpoint Configuration Manager may be different (or does it need to be licensed by FTE count as it is a component of the Core CAL?  There are two options:  Endpoint Config Manager per OSE and Endpoint Configuration Manager per user.  Are the requirements different for each?

[#2]

Hello @Jennie_Maier, 

Open Value Subscription for Education Solutions is not a program that I typically assist with.

I'm happy to try to assist, however, I'll need to clarify and make the question a bit more concise.  Are you asking for the requirements between Endpoint Config Manager per OSE and Endpoint Configuration Manager per user?

Also, the acronym OSE has several meanings within Microsoft.  Please clarify what you mean by OSE 

Standing by,

Microsoft CSP Licensing Concierge

[#3]

OSE is by operating system.
Yes, trying to find out if there are any requirements in licensing Endpoint Config Manager by Operating system or by user in an OVS Agreement. Can it be licensed by actual users or operating system or does it need to be licensed at FTE count? Thank you!

[#4]

Hello @Jennie_Maier 

Thank you for your patience.  

1. Starting with Configuration Manager version 2303 Microsoft Endpoint Configuration Manager is now Microsoft Configuration Manager.  What's new in version 2303 - Configuration Manager | Microsoft Learn
2. Configuration Manager is included in the following plans:

• Intune user subscription license (USL)
• EMS E3
• EMS E5
• Microsoft 365 E3
• Microsoft 365 E5
• Microsoft 365 F3 (formerly Microsoft 365 F1)

3.  Existing customers must have SA. Customers buying new licenses for Configuration Manager must acquire L&SA (the license and SA coverage). Product and licensing FAQ - Configuration Manager | Microsoft Learn

If after reviewing the information and links provided you have further questions, please let me know. 

Otherwise, if this reply answers your question, please Accept as the solution to help the other members find it more quickly. 

Regards,

Microsoft CSP Licensing Concierge

[#5]

Hello, this question has to do with an onprem Open Value Subscription Agreement (not Cloud). With an OVS Agreement, some products have to be quoted/ordered by full-time equivalency count. I'm trying to find out if Configuration Manager licenses have to be quoted/ordered by FTE count or can we use actual number of users or operating systems needing it? This can be ordered by user or by operating system.

Thank you, Jennie

[#6]

Hi @Jennie_Maier 

hmmm...I did not see where OnPrem & Online make a difference in this scenario.

As mentioned, Configuration Manager is a part of the (6) products listed in the snapshot below:

Therefore, you would purchase the EMS, M365, or Intune product the same as always, and Configuration Manager is included...it's not a separate license/product. Please carefully review the information in my previous reply.

Note: If you are a Reseller, please contact your Indirect Provider for assistance.

If this reply answers your question, please Accept as the solution to help the other members find it more quickly. Otherwise, please let me know if you need further assistance on this topic.

Regards,

Microsoft CSP Licensing Concierge

[#7]

Hi, it can be purchased as a standalone license through a OVS-ES agreement (school agreement) which is an onprem license, so the Cloud licenses you mentioned would not apply to this scenario. The skus options include two license choices:
J5A-01178
Endpoint Configuration Manager ALng LSA OLV E 1Y Acad Ent Per OSE
OR
J5A-01180
Endpoint Configuration Manager ALng LSA OLV E 1Y Acad Ent Per User

[#8]

@Jennie_Maier 

Thank you for providing the SKUs. I've confirmed that those products are still available. 

Your question is:

 Can it be licensed by actual users or operating system or does it need to be licensed at FTE count?

The SKU description specifically says "Per OSE" and "Per User", so that tells you how to order each one. 

Please let me know what I'm missing here.

Regards,

Microsoft CSP Licensing Concierge

[#9]

Some of the licenses have to be ordered via Full-time equivalency count and some do not. I don't think this one does, but was hoping to verify. Some of the licenses are "per user" some "per OSE", some "device", etc, but there are different requirements based on different licenses for this type of licensing agreement.

[#10]

@Jennie_Maier 

The SKU says Per OSE and Per User, so yes, that is how it should be ordered. 

If this reply answers your question, please Accept as the solution to help the other members find it more quickly. Otherwise, please let me know if you need further assistance on this topic.

Regards,

Microsoft CSP Licensing Concierge

[#11]

Both of these skus are sold per FTE, it would say Add-on vs ENT if you had the option to do an "exact" count. Not all applications allow you to just add on a few users with Open Value Subscription. These are level E so make sure you have the correct program, not sure if you purchase Level F (1000+ FTE)
J5A-01180 Endpoint Configuration Manager ALng LSA OLV E 1Y Acad ENT Per User
J5A-01178 Endpoint Configuration Manager ALng LSA OLV E 1Y Acad ENT Per OSE


You can choose OSE or User depending on the preferred deployment should be the same price.

[#12]

The correct quantity to be ordered is by the FTE count, then select OSE or User but you have to order FTE. Unfortunately, not all Microsoft contacts understand OVS ES licensing.

[#13]

@Sherry_Solomon_WTG Thank you for your reply.  However, when I look at the price sheet I have, Endpoint Config Manager is considered an "Additional Product" versus a "must license company-wide or FTE count" which is why I was confused on this one.  I use the OV Slicer from TechData, and there is a filter for Enterprise (must license company-wide - in schools, this would be FTE), a platform offering and then additional product.  Since this is under "Additional Product" along with Windows Server, etc, I was thinking it could be licensed by actual count?  Please let me know your thoughts.

[#14]

@Jennie_Maier  What is the Microsoft part number you are referring to?  I believe you are sorting with the wrong tab. There are products that are used to create the OVS (Office, Windows, and some CALs) and they are called Enterprise. Products like Endpoint, Azure, System Center etc are called additional products meaning they can be added to an OVS but they cannot be the product used to "qualify" for OVS. The TDSynnex Microsoft team should also be able to answer your question.  Note the last column says additional product not Add-on...different meaning.

J5A-01180	Endpoint Configuration Manager ALng LSA OLV E 1Y Acad Ent Per User	Academic	OVS	Additional Product
	THESE WERE THE STUDENT SKUS			Additional Product
	STUDENT SKU WAS HERE REMOVE TO AVOID CONFUSION			Additional Product
J5A-01181	Endpoint Configuration Manager ALng LSA OLV F 1Y Acad Ent Per User	Academic	OVS	Additional Product
J5A-01178	Endpoint Configuration Manager ALng LSA OLV E 1Y Acad Ent Per OSE	Academic	OVS	Additional Product
J5A-01179	Endpoint Configuration Manager ALng LSA OLV F 1Y Acad Ent Per OSE	Academic	OVS	Additional Product

[#15]

these are per FTE

[#16]

Hi @Jennie_Maier 

As far as how to order the SKUs, I do not have any other information aside from what I've provided. Unfortunately, I do not have a MW escalation team.

If you're unsure about the Microsoft documentation, please submit a support ticket in Partner Center. 

Suggestion:  It seems that if you proceed with ordering the SKU(s), you'll get an error message if you're not ordering correctly. 

If this reply answers your question, please Accept as the solution to help the other members find it more quickly. Otherwise, please let me know if you need further assistance on this topic.

Regards,

Microsoft CSP Licensing Concierge

Regards,

Microsoft CSP Licensing Concierge