02-15-2018 12:10 PM
02-15-2018 12:10 PM
We have a requirement to expire news posts, but we would like keep them for later as archives.
Removing a post actually removes the page in Pages library:
Is there a way to un-promote a Page from the News 'feed', without deleting?
02-15-2018 12:13 PM
Yup go to site pages, then more menu, and unpublish. This might be a newer SharePoint build, but that's where it is on my tenant.
02-15-2018 12:20 PM
02-15-2018 12:25 PM
02-15-2018 03:12 PMSolution
You can change the promoted state to 0, which makes the site a "regular" site page, not a News page. To do that you first have to expose Promoted State in a view (choose a flat view to make it easier to edit). (Use the + in the library view and then select Promoted State and be sure to press Apply.) Once you ahve exposed the column, you can change the order by editing the view.
Then, in quick edit, change promoted state from 2 (news) to 0 (site page). I think the challenge with this approach is that the page still exists and it can still be found in search and you now have it mixed in with "regular" site pages. You could also add a column to Site Pages and "tag" the page as Archive or something like that - but unless you un-publish, it will still be visible in search.
02-15-2018 06:39 PM
02-16-2018 04:35 AM
02-16-2018 06:36 AM
Yes, we want it in search, we want users to be able to look back at the past news, or at least that is how it works now in our current instance.
We also keep everything and might need to think about letting old news 'go away'...
I will look into FLOW to unpublish by changing that column from 2 to 0.
02-16-2018 06:38 AM
02-16-2018 06:49 AM
Same here. I was able to add the Promoted State, but when I click Quick Edit, it removes that column from the view (as if it was read only). It removed the Number of comments and likes columns too.
02-16-2018 06:52 AM
For 90% of the items, allowing rotation would work, but there are current news that our client only wants to display for a day, then remove it. (never simple), so we will look into a small Flow to pause until expiration Date, then set 2 to 0.
02-16-2018 06:56 AM
Saving the view kept the columns in view for future, but as Christopher mentioned, that removes the quickedit button.
06-19-2018 09:13 AM
If you are adding the PromotedState to the ByAuthor view, you will not get the Quick Edit, since Quick edit will not show up on view with Grouped items. You should first select the All Items view, then add the PromotedState, then save your view to something new.
Also note that I do not thin that the Promoted State is working any more for news articles, at least on a communications site I am working on. I have changed Pages to PromotedState=0, however they still show up in my news reel. The only way to hide them is to unpublish or delete. I have also recently noticed issues with the Highlighted Content web part also and it's query rules.
06-19-2018 09:42 AM
06-19-2018 10:29 AM
Thanks for the insight Chris, do you happen to have a link that discusses this more in detail? I had to re-align a few things recently due to this issue going on and any info from MS would be helpful.
I am hoping that they improve the Highlighted Content web with changing the ability on controlling the look and feel. I had to recently write an extension to hide something on that web-part that I wish I could remove out of the box.
06-19-2018 10:49 AM
08-23-2018 12:48 PM
@Jonathan Herschel I know I'm late to the party with this suggestion, and you've probably moved on from that immediate client need. But here's an alternative approach that may help folks with this same issue.
There are certain News articles that are important and need more visibility than a normal article. Maybe they're reminders for an important company event or deadline, and you want them front & center up to a certain date--but after the date passes, you no longer want to promote them. They're regular news articles in every way, except they need to be highlighted for a while.
By changing their Promote state, they will no longer appear in the consolidated news archive which is a valuable historical reference of all news. I would like to retain all news there, unfortunately changing the promote property will remove them from this feature of the SharePoint home page.
This alternative approach is to add 2 Metadata fields for the Contributor to use only on items they wish to Highlight. One field flags if they wish to highlight, the second is a date field for them to define the expiration date for the highlight. Then use the Highlighted Content web part to filter these items and reveal them with either the "Cards" view or the "Carousel" view. I've titled the web part "Don't Miss News"
HERE'S THE STEPS:
Once you experience this highlight technique, you'll likely find lots of ways to use it, I know I have. So here's a couple extra tips so you can get more distance from it.
You can do this with 1-off columns, but I like to use this "Highlight" technique for lots of things throughout my SharePoint ecosystem, so I have created the columns as Site Columns on all my sites. Additionally, for the Yes/No Highlight field, I prefer to use a Managed Metadata field with a simple term set of "Highlight" and "Don't Highlight" as the options. This gives me more options when using the new Metadata Properties features, which don't work with the Boolean Yes/No field today. I just find I get more "bang for the buck" as the descriptions are more clear to contributors, and I can use it for additional functionality.
09-05-2018 06:43 AM - edited 09-05-2018 06:56 AM
09-05-2018 06:43 AM - edited 09-05-2018 06:56 AM
Hi Susan et al,
Is there a recommended way to turn on a retention , or rather a disposition , policy for news articles ?
i.e. so that they will automatically be deleted e.g. after 2 years?
In SP Online - Do the retention policies need to be first set in the Security and Compliance Centre; where we define a "label" with "no , just delete content that's older than" checked and specify 2 years.
Then we apply the label to the "site pages" library in the Comms site?
09-05-2018 02:50 PM
09-05-2018 02:50 PM
You can definitely do this. Define your label in the Security & Compliance Center with the retention setting to delete after 2 years. If you want it to only apply to news articles then it's best to base it on when it was labeled rather than when it's created. This is because you only want to apply the label to new articles and not necessarily ALL site pages. You will leave it up to the end-user to apply the label to the news article thru the SharePoint UI. (below)
You will need to publish the label to all site collection(s) you want to use the label. Although you *can* default the entire site pages library to have the label, if you only want the news article pages to be deleted after 2 years, you will need the end-user to manually apply the retention label to each news article page. Note: you cannot currently see the Label property in the new Page details property, you have to be in the Site Pages library, select the news page and apply the label from the information pane.
Hope that helps.
09-28-2018 09:47 AM
That worked perfectly thank you! I wanted to post something in the News Feed for a while-- but later take it out of there. I also needed to NOT have it in news while people were reviewing the content before I posted it. Perfect solution and now I can move things back and forth easily.
09-28-2018 09:50 AM
02-20-2019 03:03 AM
I've just followed this through to creating a new view with the Promoted State column.
Now, when I go in Quick Edit mode, the Promoted State column appears in a lighter shade than other columns, and it won't let me key in, or Flash Edit to change the 2 into a 0.
02-20-2019 03:19 AM
Make sure you are not using. Group By view. Quick Edit can only be used in a “flat” view.
04-16-2019 05:53 AM
We can now demote news or unpromote it using the following application customizer
07-25-2019 01:45 PM
@Harsh Damania Anyone know why when we "Unpublish" a news article, nothing happens? The article is still posted on the front page and visible to all, and "Publish" option is then available for that page because its been unpublished. If its still visible whether its published or unpublished, what does publishing actually mean?
07-25-2019 01:58 PM
07-25-2019 02:03 PM
@Chris Webb Yeah its been over an hour and I've tried this before with no luck. I've just directed them to delete the pages going forward, "publish" and "unpublish" has no effect on our pages. Modern communication site.
07-25-2019 02:04 PM
@jenkweb Give the search indexer time to run and make sure you are checking with an account that is not an editor of the site. When I unpublish, it takes a few minutes for the article to be removed. To make it easier to tell which pages are unpublished, make sure that you have Version showing up in the Pages view. Pages where the version is not .0 are either unpublished or the latest version has not been published.
07-25-2019 02:06 PM
@Susan Hanley Yeah I was thinking if unpublished means it unpublished the last published version. If that's the case it will roll back to an old article you would think. Then might have to resort to changing the page's "Promoted State" to 0 via Quick Edit hack.
07-25-2019 02:13 PM
@Turismon null I'm just surprised there is no functionality built in to manage news posts? All news will eventually need to be removed, and there solution is just to delete pages. However some obviously would like to retain pages history for relevant posts in the future, but we need to rely on a third party promote 'hack' to manage this. Strangest cms I've ever used.
07-25-2019 02:16 PM
07-25-2019 02:21 PM
@jenkweb Page scheduling is coming. It was announced at SPC19. I know they talked about scheduling a page to post at a specific date and I'm hoping that there will also be a way to "un-pupblish" on a specific date as well, like there was in earlier versions of SharePoint on prem - but I'm not sure. If there is a feature you really want that isn't there, you should add it to user voice. Microsoft really pays attention to what people want - but not everything makes it to the roadmap at the same time!
07-25-2019 02:24 PM
@Susan Hanley That is good news, yeah I try to leave feedback from time to time and understand things are in flux with sharepoint. The publishing thing had me confused though. I will try editing promote flags to make this work. Thanks.
07-25-2019 02:38 PM
07-25-2019 02:46 PM
@Turismon null Thanks for the info. I have already added to promoted state column and see that, but I'm a bit stuck on how to change it? I have tried viewing the all the options available for that page in properties etc but don't see anywhere I can change that 2 to a 0. In searches I've found a github extensions that supposedly allows this, but seems I can do this without it? Just not sure how.
07-25-2019 02:52 PM
07-25-2019 03:01 PM
@Chris Webb ok yes I saw you refer to 'quick edit' but that must not be enabled. I don;t see a quick edit option available anywhere.
07-25-2019 03:07 PM
07-25-2019 03:23 PM
@Chris Webb ok tried all these steps...created a new view for site pages, set as default, added ALL columns to see if it would somehow trigger it to appear, tried chrome, IE, and firefox. Quick edit just doesn't exist for our tenant in modern view, I found an article here for the same issue some users just don't have access quick edit some do. That's where I got stuck. So I am back to square one, I will just delete pages to remove from news but I thank you for suggestions.
07-25-2019 03:25 PM
07-25-2019 03:54 PM
@Chris Webb ok I think unraveled the mystery of the missing quick edit for anyone who needs this in the future. Yes Quick edit was turned on in the Library settings before, but for some reason modern view doesn't seem to pay any attention to it. I was doing all of this you suggested in modern view (creating new list views, adding columns, looking for a quick edit button in every menu). I went to the advanced library setting and saw I can change it to display the library in Classic view. So I changed it to the classic experience. Hey, I see a Quick Edit button now but greyed out with some "this option is not available" error nonsense displayed when hovering over the button. So I followed your suggestion of creating a new view with those columns, setting as default (in the classic experience, not modern). Navigated back to the library. Hey Quick edit button is enabled! So here's the weird part. I went back in to the library settings and switched back to modern experience. What do you know, the quick edit button has magically appeared there now too where it wasn't before. So it appears there is a disconnect between these two views, and is confusing as hell. Thanks for your help.
07-25-2019 04:30 PM
@jenkweb But alas I am still not able to edit that promotevalue in Quick Edit. Only text columns allow changes, that value can't be changed the box is greyed out. Oh well!