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Have you seen the updates to SharePoint Framework?

Sliced bread has nothing on the offline-capable SharePoint Workbench. You don't need to stand up a dev/test environment or a playground online tenant.

 

 

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Re: Have you seen the updates to SharePoint Framework?

Really looking forward to the workbench preview! :)

Re: Have you seen the updates to SharePoint Framework?

It is a one of the tool all developers were awaited..!

RE: Have you seen the updates to SharePoint Framework?

Can't wait to start using it

Re: Have you seen the updates to SharePoint Framework?

My development team is avid for the new SharePoint Framework!

RE: Have you seen the updates to SharePoint Framework?

The question is when will it be out for non-MVPs ? - We have not got to wait until Ignite for it have we ??

Re: RE: Have you seen the updates to SharePoint Framework?

It's coming for the rest of MVPs and the general public ;-)

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When Juan! I am right in the middle of developing an intranet on the old model and would love to get my hands on this.

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It's been announced to start releasing to First Release tenants third quarter this year. More info @ https://blogs.office.com/2016/05/04/the-sharepoint-framework-an-open-and-connected-platform/.

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@Robert Woods If I were you, I would hold off the project at least until Microsoft Ignite where we should have a more clear picture about when the new stuff is going to be released...and when I say new stuff I'm not only referring to the new Framework but also to the new Team Sites, the new pages, etc. As @Waldek Mastykarz has said the new Framework is supposed to be released at some time in the summer...indeed, you should have a message in Office 365 message center saying just this

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Another approach that you could choose @Robert Woods would be to proceed with your project but postpone branding discussion until later and avoid using Custom Actions or other things that are currently blocking the modern UX. While these things will get clarified eventually it's hard to tell when exactly and delaying the implementation of the uncertain pieces could prevent you from spending time and effort no something that would block you later on.

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Does this mean .Net is no longer supported? While progress marches on I will miss the .Net option. We only have limited developer resource and for us we've been able to use essentially the same original codebase for standalone asp.net sites, SharePoint application pages, examples of SharePoint add-ins and more recently Azure AD apps over several years.

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That's not the message....of course .NET development is still an option, as other development models available today, and you will have scenarios where the new framework does not fit. I recommend you to read Waldek's post about what the new framework means in regards of developing for SharePoint

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I had. The message I got was basically Server Side Bad, Client Side Good. That's fair enough as that seems to be the way of things and has been for some time, I just worry a little over the future of .net as a whole. It will be intersting to see how .net Core fares.

 

Re: RE: Have you seen the updates to SharePoint Framework?

But there will be things you won't be able to do at the client side...

Re: RE: Have you seen the updates to SharePoint Framework?

Hi

Server bad, client good has been the message from Microsoft for a couple of years now.  OfficeDev / PnP has a good series of videos (on channel 9 or here A list of links to the various contact points for the Office 365 Developer Patterns and Practices group and content.)

 

Regards

 

Nigel

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Maybe I need to tell my developer to learn JavaScript.:smileyhappy:

 

Edit: Or more likely Typescript as it seems much less horrible than plain JavaScript.

 

Re: RE: Have you seen the updates to SharePoint Framework?

You should!

RE: Have you seen the updates to SharePoint Framework?

Even MVPs don't have it. Right now it seems to be only available to those that attended the SharePoint Dev Kitchen. Personally, I'm not too worried - there's so much to learn already from Angular/React, Yeoman, Gulp and now Webpack. Add PnP JS Core and KurveJS and there's plenty of stuff to learn right now.

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I pity future developers who have to inherit code from this era. Too many options.

Re: Have you seen the updates to SharePoint Framework?

Interesting, YouTube is blocked at my workplace, I usually see a message about that but in this your post just contains whitespace, no hint of what is there.

Re: Have you seen the updates to SharePoint Framework?

One thing to keep in mind. It is looking like this is not going to be available to SharePoint 2013. I know of at least one attendee of the Dev Kitchens said he got it working in SP2013, but it involved some hacking to make it work. You really don't want to build solutions on a jury-rigged framework.

That being said, I know that Eric Overfield wrote a blog about developing as if you were using the framework. You can find that here: http://www.sptechcon.com/news/dont-wait-to-get-started-with-the-sharepoint-framework

You unfortunately aren't going to get the workbench which is a significant tool within the framework, but you can at least develop like the framework is designed to be.

Just my thoughts on this.

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Most Front-End developers have been doing Front-End development since JavaScript was called LiveScript.

They have been doing REST for years. 

They are on the Angular band-wagon but keep a sharp eye on what Rob is doing with Aurelia.

Don't expect this "FrameWork" or "Workbench" to be a revolution.

It is a bunch of connectors to connect Front-End with SharePoint 2016 stuff. (And oh yes, CSR, JSLink are gone)

And most Fronteers will probably think it is just another Tell-Sell tool

 

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Re: Have you seen the updates to SharePoint Framework?

Hey,

 

It's here - the SharePoint Framework preview is released.

Read more about that here: https://dev.office.com/blogs/sharepoint-framework-developer-preview-release

 

Get the bits on GitHub: https://github.com/SharePoint/

 

/ Zimmergren

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FYI, I had to manually run

 

npm install --save es6-promise

before the sample would work. Might just be my machine though.

 

Also, are the project files supposed to be so big. The hello world sample seems to download 97,000 files?

Re: Have you seen the updates to SharePoint Framework?

This is a very exciting move. I have downloaded tool need to start working with this framework.

But the problem i am facing now is when i browse to workbench.aspx from my tenant it gives me following error

 

"The Requested operation is part of an experiment feature that is not supported in the current environment"

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Re: Have you seen the updates to SharePoint Framework?

Hi Kunal

 

This is becuase you are not using a SharePoint Online Development Tenancy (Not Site Collection).

 

You need to sign up for a development tenancy.

 

Regards

 

Nigel

Re: Have you seen the updates to SharePoint Framework?

I'm liking what I've seen so far but I'm guessing that since it runs entirely on the client side within the SharePoint context we are restricted to using Office 365 assets?

 

If external data access to SQL is needed would the provider hosted SharePoint Add-In be the recommended approach going forward?

Re: Have you seen the updates to SharePoint Framework?

If you expose your SQL throught a REST service, you could then work with your SQL Data. If that it's not possible, you have to rely on Provider-Hosted Add-ins.

Re: Have you seen the updates to SharePoint Framework?

I can imagine the authentication side of that getting complicated but I'll see what I can find. Now I've seen the new framework I don't want to go back to using iframes!

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