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External Sharing with Stream or Video

Apologies if this has been covered before but does anyone know if Videos on either Office 365 Video or Microsoft Stream can be shared out to the public with a link as yet?

Kind regards

Mike

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Re: External Sharing with Stream or Video

You can expect sharing of videos to external users (Authenticated users) soon but not as anonymous link shared to view by anyone.
https://office365video.uservoice.com/forums/273864-o365-video-feedback/suggestions/7644834-allow-ext...

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Thanks Santhosh - I will give feeback on the link you sent. :)

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We have public/anonymous sharing of videos on the list for the future but not actively working on it yet. Keep the votes coming in on uservoice.

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Thanks Marc, I'll keep an eye open for it.

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External sharing is actually shown in the Stream overview video so I'm a bit surprised it's on the list for the future as opposed to already in development.

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Any Office 365 feature that offers unlimited, anonymous sharing presents a commercial challenge to Microsoft.  Those of us with long memories will remember the Office 365 'Public website' feature that allowed a company to purchase a single E3 license and host their corporate web site with unlimited bandwidth/downloads/users.  This feature was withdrawn for all the right reasons.

 

What Microsoft need to do with Stream/O365 video is add a cost option for those corporates that want unlimited, unauthenticated, public access to a video channel.  This could have some kind of 'fair usage' or monthly bandwidth limit to protect them from the 0.1% of users that abuse any SaaS offering.

 

We are not trying to take on Facebook and YouTube which are predominantly C2C video platforms, what we should be looking to do is displace the likes of Brightcove, Ooyala, Wistia and Vimeo that many Office 365 customers have subscribed to because of their anonymous viewer and video feature capabilities.  In terms of features we should be prioritizing those that allow for viewer interaction - Call to Actions, Intelligent Forms, Watermarks etc - so organizations can monetize their video content.  This is not about getting 1,000,000 views of a fluffy cat, it is about getting the name and contact details of 10 viewers so they can be outbound marketed to!

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We have public/anonymous video sharing/playback on our roadmap for the future, but aren't actively working on it at this time. We know this is a big ask and important to customers in using any enterprise video solution. We also need to carefully plan a business model and cost structure for how we enable this. Our current thinking (but not finalized) is that there'd be some sort of quota of public/anonymous streaming you get each month with a way to buy more quota if needed. (We have to be responsible in how we offer full public/anonymous video streaming to make sure we can cover the costs of running the service).

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Hi @Marc Mroz. Apologies for picking up this old thread and it reminds me that you and I had this conversation about 2 years ago too. ;-) I'm here today because of link through from the O365 Admin message centre announcement on coming transition plans to Stream. Wonder if you could update with the latest position on external sharing for Stream/Video? What will the relationship be - if any - between other O365 external sharing settings - SPO, Groups, OD4B?

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We are nearly finished with work to enable external authenticated access to O365 Video channels. I need to do last mile testing and documentation still. This is going to be tied directly to the ODB/SPO guest users settings for sites/files.

For Stream it'll take us longer to build external sharing there.
External Authenticated Sharing (Guests) - We'll likely leverage the O365 Groups guest user support to enable this in the future in Stream. Stream is joining O365 Groups in the next few months. So when we pick up this project we'll likely use the O365 Groups infrastructure for this.

Public Anonymous External Video - This is on the roadmap for Stream. When we pick up this work we'll likely have a way to mark a video as able to be played by anyone, so you could grab an embed code and put it on any public website. There will be some sort of new quota for anonymous streaming playback that if you go over you'd have to buy more.

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Great answer, thanks Marc. I see you haven't lost any of your aptitude for being speedy, useful and thorough! ;-) Really appreciate these kinds of answers - they're a great help in planning our activities.

It's probably too early to share any details of how such a quota might work but from our point of view - albeit we're not necessarily the standard setup - it would be good if the quota allowed small numbers of views for many videos or, if a collective number, then one derived from total licensed users.

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@Neil McCafferty - Since we aren't actively working on the "public anonymous playback" at this exact moment in time, it is hard to say what the quota model will be. This is still to be finalized, but to give you an idea of the direction we are thiking... it will likely be some pooled quota that applies to all videos in the tenant. It may likely be derived from number of licesned users similar to how storage quota works in SPO.

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Thanks @Marc Mroz. That's precisely the model that I was thinking of/hoping for. ;-)

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Is there a way to be notified about this feature when it's released? It would really streamline our business practice, as we're currently using outside suppliers for video hosting (Wistia).

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When we add support for external guest access or public anonymous to Stream we'll for sure post on the Stream forum. We'll also start getting into better practice of posting these bigger features on the O365 public roadmap. 

 

For O365 Video we are hopefully adding Guest access soon. I just need to do last mile verification on end to end scenario. If that works out then we can enable it. And we'd post on the forums letting people know.

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Has this been implemented yet?

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Hi

 

I'm confused about why this is taking so long.  It's kind of obvious that organisations who have committed to o365 video will want to share their work externally as well as internally.  So why not make it easy?  We're going to pursue Youtube instead.  Shame, could have been fun.

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Agreed. I wouldn't have bothered launching without it IMHO as it would have been a key advantage over O365 Video. Instead of my clients who don't need/want the insights and just need the ability to share videos externally are forced to use guest links from SharePoint or OneDrive.

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Public access to videos is essential for my organisation too. I wouldn't have thought that MS would launch without this option being available to admins.

 

Please add as soon as possible.

RE: External Sharing with Stream or Video

Yes, it's import to allow Office 365 Videos permit share to external users, os Public access (anonymous) to global access . Thank you!

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This is important to our organization too.  When will it be available?  For now, I guess we need to put the videos somewhere else that is accessible.

 


 

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I apparently just shared a video to someone outside of my institution and they were able to view it. Accident or they have made this possible.

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Can you simply place a public video and post a link so we can try?

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FAKE NEWS: I sent the link to a friend to see if it would work and they told me it did.... because they thought that is what I wanted to hear. I will never again trust anyone.

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I was mistaken! Never trust a friend to help you test out anything. :( Sorry community. 


@Steve O'Donnell wrote:
I apparently just shared a video to someone outside of my institution and they were able to view it. Accident or they have made this possible.

 

Re: RE: External Sharing with Stream or Video

Hi Marc, Is the option to enable external authenticated access to O365 Video channels available in stream yet ?

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@Moreno Fernandes - Are you asking about Microsoft Stream or O365 Video?

 

For MS Stream we are starting work on public anonymous access to videos. External named guest users support is going to hopefully be worked on later this year.

 

For O365 Video we are not going to support public anonymous this will only be supported in Stream.

For O365 Video we did enable ability to share an O365 Video channel with a named external user (like sharing a site in SPO with an external guest). However the setup for this is very convoluted and with the migration from O365 Video to Stream we have not provided instructions on how to do this, It's likely this same kind of support won't be able to be translated into Stream during migration.

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Hi Marc, thanks for your quick response. My question was regarding MS Stream.
As of now I had a requirement from business to Share Videos to non employees outside of the organisation via authentication (We are not allowed to share externally via anonymous). So, considering my requirement, what is the best way to achieve this in O365 ? Any documentation would help. Thanks again!

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Unfortunately we don't have guest sharing like you describe in Stream today, it's on our roadmap for 2018. 

 

That being said if you need to do this today from O365 I think your only option would be to use OneDrive for Business or SharePoint Online. Upload the video there and share it out to named guest user. SPO has supported guest files for quite some time. You wouldn't get all the video specific features of Stream but for a light weight sharing to some guest users, SPO or ODB might work for you.

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I can't find any details on how to do this for Videos while we wait for Stream, can you provide a link with the instructions?

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@Marc Mroz,  Can you explain or point me at the "convoluted" instructions for sharing O365 video with named external users?    I'm not able to find that.  

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@Marc Mroz, I appreciate your insight on this matter and the help you have provided.

 

Was wondering if its possible to know the process of Office 365 Video to share it with External Users. As you said it might be convoluted but would like to know if its something that our organization is willing to do.  

 

Thank you and looking forward to your response.

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I think I figured out how to do this.   O365 Videos use a special site collection (<tenant>/portals/hub).  So I turned on external sharing for this site collection using PowerShell 

Set-SPOSite -Identity <siteUrl>l -SharingCapability ExternalUserSharingOnly

Now I can grant access to external users that are already added to my tenant and they can view the videos I grant access to.   

Additional details:


https://support.office.com/en-us/article/turn-external-sharing-on-or-off-for-sharepoint-online-62882...


 

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@Kyle Petersen I have made those changes but it's not letting us access the videos.  Are your external users B2B or how are they set up?  

 

Maybe we are missing some configuration. Let me know what you think and thanks in advance.

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I found a workaround: if you add a Stream tab in Teams and link a video to it, all team members will be able to watch it even if they are Guest users. Let me know how it works for you!

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But they have to watch the videos via Teams?

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Yes, they have to watch it in the Teams application (browser access doesn't work).

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Hi,

 

My videos (<tenant>/portals/hub) site is already shared externally. How do I share it externally for named users ? I have few external guest users in the tenant, but still cant see a way to share the video to external users.

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I am also unable to share videos after running the command.  You can also select sharing features for this SharePoint site (portals/hub) from the SharePoint Site Collections management page.

There just isn't a way to share directly from the video.  Any help would be appreciated.

Re: External Sharing with Stream or Video

Unfortunately I'm not able to use this workaround. Any trick involved ?

 

stream-video-inside-teams-tab.pngStream Video inside Teams tab.

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