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Jennifer Seitsinger
Occasional Contributor

I teach kindergarten students and need the ability to give them easy access to videos I've prepared.  I usually do this by creating a QR code for them to scan, but for this to work I need the ability to create a link that is "anyone with link can view".  Please allow external guests to view video.  We are looking for a way to compile vidoe resources to share accross our district but we need the ability to give our youngest learners and thier families easy access...Is this coming soon?

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@Jennifer Seitsinger, we are tracking that capability as a very high priority work item but can't commit to a timeline yet. Thank you for trying Stream and we'll keep you posted via our forum and blog.

Am I correct in thinking that as of Aug 2017 there is no way to publically share videos stored in either Stream or Video? and that there is no timeframe for this to become available? Im asking as we need to have our videos imbedded in our school website and have been forced to move our school website external to o365 due to Microsoft stopping from hosting public websites. I now need to find a way around this. It seems that at present we need to allow our school staff to use Google Services and accounts so that they can use youtube. This will result in them migrating to Google so that all their services are in the one place. Surely that is not where Microsoft are heading?

@Koraunui Administrator - yes, you are correct that we don't have ability to make videos accessible without AAD credentials. We are working on this but unable to share a specific timeline as we are still in early design stages. It's a top priority on our side though and we will keep you updated here.

 

Also, for your scenario - I assume these videos are public anonymous (anyone can watch) access right? 

I just fell over this exact same problem too.

 

The promotional videos for Stream make it sound like sharing to anyone is absolutely there, but it only is internal now. That is a 100% road-block. We wanted to use this for internal and external training videos. I will not fragment our video protals to work arount a restriction like this, it would only confuse the people in the different departments. it does not make sense to not have this option from the get go.

 

We will have to move to Youtube instead - not business oriented, and i would have preferred not to use it but it does the job.

Correct, I'm wanting to create QR codes for my students to scan that will take them to the video...wihout logging in. The login process for kindergarten students is time consuming!!

Can you tell me if there is an official feedback link where users interested in this upcoming feature can keep track of the latest status of the enhancement?  Is it in "User Voice"?  

Solution

We track all the ideas from all of you here on the MS Tech Community in the "Ideas" section.

 

Typically external videos feature request come in 2 flavors.

1. Pure public / anonymous video - where anyone with a link / embed code can watch the video without logging in.

Idea in the forums for Public / anonymous video: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Microsoft-Stream-Ideas/Public-videos/idc-p/93045#M652

 

2. Guest users - Where you type in the email of a person you want to share with and they have to login in some way with Org ID or MSA to see a video.

Idea in the forums for guest users: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Microsoft-Stream-Ideas/External-Guests/idc-p/95557#M663

 

 

 

Hi Microsoft,

As a teacher, I totally agree that you need to allow a choice between 'within company' and 'anyone with link/QR code 'view'.  You have this in MS Forms, so let's get this for Stream!

Until then, this service cannot be useful for me as a teacher.

Thanks

Ben Lovett

I wanted to ask if anyone knows information on the migration from Office Mix to Stream. Currently, my company uses this for a training tool which we embed into ProProfs. It works brilliantly. However, we have started the migration of our mixes and the proprofs page will not play the video via Stream. It asks you to log in. The problem is we are a small non-profit with about 30 office accounts while we have about 150 more independent contractors (without Office accounts) which need access to these trainings. I am very concerned as everything I am reading says this is not possible but that has to be wrong. Why would you get rid of Officemix if the capabilities are not ready in the new system? I need help!! Please. Is there a way to make the videos available either to the public or to be used by asking someone to sign in if you have shared it with their personal email address which is not an office account? 

@Kirsten Boone - Unfortunately we don't have all the features that Office Mix has in Microsoft Stream. At this point in time it's not a full replacement for Mix. Over the course of time we would like to be able to do more of the things Mix could do in Stream, but as you said right now we don't.

 

In particular sharing Stream videos with people who are external to your organization is on our backlog/roadmap to do in Stream, but we don't yet know when we'll be able to pick up that work and do it. We are hoping for sometime the first half of 2018, but since we don't have engineers actively working on the project right now it's hard for us to make a commitment/promise.

 

Office Mix was a "beta" product and we've decided to eventually stop the service, I understand it's painful that we don't have a replacement for you at this point in time. Sorry.

Vishal,

 

Does your AAD ID include external registered users for accessing these video's.  I understand the frustration of Office Mix going but wanted to confirm that If Videos are uploaded to Stream that external sharing is available for registered accounts in AAD..

 

Thanks

 

Steve

It's 2018/ Does it work?

We too will have to move to some other solution but I'd really prefer to stay on 365

t did not work for us. No matter what we did - nothing worked. We have since started converting our mixes to Vimeo video links so we don't lose them when the transition is final. We have our training through the mixes we use and then we use ProProfs for LDManagement. Hope that helps or they fix it soon. Not likely though.

Wow. Guess I'm uploading this training video to YouTube, then. What the heck, Microsoft!?

I have 3000+ users and have resorted to using a paid service to prevent the advertising popups that come with YouTube. The entire security model in Stream is useless (try changing who can view a channel after it's created). Strongly considering migrating to gmail.

@Steve Dalby wrote:

Vishal,

 

Does your AAD ID include external registered users for accessing these video's.  I understand the frustration of Office Mix going but wanted to confirm that If Videos are uploaded to Stream that external sharing is available for registered accounts in AAD..

 

Thanks

 

Steve


Stream does not yet support external users in any way. Even if you have external users registered in your AAD outside of Stream, they will not be able to access videos.

 

External anonymous and guest access is on our list to try and work on in 2018. 


@Ryan Gardner wrote:
I have 3000+ users and have resorted to using a paid service to prevent the advertising popups that come with YouTube. The entire security model in Stream is useless (try changing who can view a channel after it's created). Strongly considering migrating to gmail.

If you use groups in stream you can change who can view/edit/own, but channels are either companywide (everyone can view) or part of group and inherit from the group.

 

We realize this current model has it's downfalls like you mentioned above. In 2018 we are looking at moving away from companywide channels and making all channels be in a group. That way you can always have the permission control on the group level, with the added benefit of having the home page for the group and be able to have other channels be also under that group for more organization.

Using Stream to share video content with external users was one of the primary reasons to use Office 365. I can't believe this feature is not available. Don't know why we bother dealing with Microsoft sometimes. I'm considering cancelling the Office 365 subscription for my company.

This is just another example of how Microsoft carelessly ventured in to the educational area without changing a single thing from its business solution. It is a mockery of all the schools who are trying hard to build up a viable IT solution. A school is not a business and you cannot simply assume that cause it works in business' it will work in schools. The minute the new Data rules are implimented in Germany we'll be taking our business to Google - who actually appears to give a f... about Schools -  pardon my language! 

Fix it or stay away from education! Period! 

I wouldn't recommend switching purely to a group model, since in many cases, having company wide access is absolutely desired.  ...and right now, not sure I can have a group which incorporates the entire University.

 

I would say, though, that having external access is absolutely necessary to see any widespread adoption of Stream within my University.  Please get some engineers working on this!

Totally agreed

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I also have the same problem. I am working at University. Requiring login for each attempt is also bad experience for higher education students.
What is the roadmap/timeline for Stream to have external viewing access?

Teams has recently expanded its capabilities for guest users to have non AAD accounts.  How does this relate to Stream? Stream has always been an AAD account access only product, will we be able to open this up to non AAD guest accounts?

@Janet Thorson

We are starting work now for public anonymous - where you can mark a video is public, grab an embed code and put it on a public place, where anyone can access. After that we'll start looking at named authenticated guest users, but I'm not sure if we'll get to named guests this year yet or not. We'll revaluate for Q3/Q4 to see if we have time.

 

@Brian Clayton - The guest support in Teams isn't related to Stream at all. Guest users won't have access to the content in Stream until we do similar support as Teams did.

Is sharing with external viewers available now? My organization also has training videos that we currently link to Microsoft Mix. 

 

Also, with Mix, I am able to hyperlink a survey in the ppt presentation. What is a good alternative since Mix converts the ppt into a video?

https://mix.office.com/watch/17d9d8ger1lcx

 

Thank you

 

 

@FACE null - We do not have external public anonymous viewing available yet. We are in development on it. 

 

Mix did support survey/polls directly. However at this time Stream does not have that support. We will be looking at adding some cool stuff from Mix over the course of time, but right now that will be a ways out. Sorry.

 

For more info on Office Mix going away see this article: https://support.office.com/en-us/article/migrate-your-content-from-office-mix-c1c04f84-a7bb-4602-964...

Thank you for your response. 

Sorry, but we will have to take our services elsewhere that can accommodate what we are trying to accomplish with sharing our videos. 

 

FACE 

Marc,

 

Any timeline on the public anonymous for Stream?

 

Thanks,

 

Steve

You can create a Security Principal in O365 buy just adding an unlicensed user to your Azure AD.  I was up against the same issue and this worked for me, your AD/Security team may not like it but in a pinch it did work as of 5/16/2018 00:12 CST!

Youtube does seem like the ideal solution. This conversation has gone on for a long time and nothing has been fixed.

Checking to see if this thread has new updates. Similar to above scenarios in education, we'd like to use videos to train our vendors/partners/users but so far Stream require a license even for viewing only.

 

Hopefully, there will be some timeline by the Stream team.

Any update to allowing External Guest users access to Stream? Almost all the other O365 services now support external access and Teams has done a great job of providing the ability to switch tenancy. 

Similar need to enable partners to view videos. 

 

For those looking for work around, only option I've found it to upload to a document library in SharePoint then embed on a page.

  

Riccardo

 

Fully support the question and the compliment.  I think MS has done a great job is making Office 365 apps 'safe' to share with externals and hope that this request to include Stream in the process becomes an active Roadmap item with a delivery date asap.

 

Steve

@Marc Mroz - Any status on how this permissions stuff is coming?


@Riccardo Gozzi wrote:

Any update to allowing External Guest users access to Stream? Almost all the other O365 services now support external access and Teams has done a great job of providing the ability to switch tenancy. 

Similar need to enable partners to view videos. 

 

For those looking for work around, only option I've found it to upload to a document library in SharePoint then embed on a page.

  


I've also helped staff use Sway to share video externally.

Microsoft Stream is a half-baked solution at best.  I have wasted too much time in trying to get it to do what we need.

Any update on this yet?

I'm appalled by the fact that 1 year later this simple issue is not addressed. TEAMS allows us to save a video in Stream (great idea), but yet cannot share this video with the external meeting attendees (even anonymously).

I agree it stinks that we don't have this yet in Stream. We are starting to look at guest users on Stream in the coming months in addition to public anonymous sharing. I hope early next year to have a better update for everyone. Sorry!

Thanks for the update, truly appreciated.  Nowadays, with contractors, partners, inter-companies of a large conglomerate, it's impossible to keep content all "in-house". Office 365 must cover all engagement channels (B2C, B2B, and B2E) across all Office 365 modules, apps and content to be a true swiss knife.

 

If Sharepoint would have kept such cross channel promise, perhaps we would not even need WordPress so we can fully use the CMS and WCM benefits that were never really fully delivered for public facing scenarios, but that's for another channel :)

This sort of thing is critical in suppporting digital workplace mentality, which microsoft peddle through O365. It may seem like quite a specific piece of functionality, but the concept of a digital workplace suffers from lots of specific pieces of functionality not being available.

Exactly... if Microsoft doesn't quickly adopt a Google like mentality (where B2C workloads) are more readily available, they will be eating the O365's lunch despite being a more well organized and powerful platform. The "corporation" is no longer an island, the contractors, partners and customers must be part of the collaboration process, thus every tool in the ecosystem.

Yes, what ends up happening is that teams then just go off and use their own tools they know will work. A few years down the line and you have a lorry moving in one direction but its contents trying to move in all different directions = lorry starts slowing down and moving erratically.

Has this been resolved yet?

I know things don't move as fast as we'd like. We've been waiting for anonymous and guest access to Microsoft Video and Stream for a couple of years now. Our workaround until they have it completed is to download the original video from Stream and upload it to inexpensive Blob storage in Azure.

 

You can then either use the direct link, or create a CNAME that uses your branding, but points to the Microsoft link. You can even host a static web page in Blob storage, and include the video in Blob storage as an embed anchor in the static web page. But it's not necessary.

 

Storing the video in inexpensive Azure Blob storage with a direct link to the video allows you to easily create a QR code to point to that link.

I see how quickly things move at Microsoft, it's now 2 years later and you still haven't given anyone external access?  I'd love to use stream, but as with so many of your products to not be able to share easily outside of my organization (like .. publicly) I don't see the point.

 

Why would I tell my teams to post videos here?

What is the benefit if I can't use it for external marketing?

Only for internal updates?

 

I can make a video private on youtube or vimeo

the only reason I would use Stream is for continuity of environment (keeping it inside the MS login world) but this fails to provide a working solution spectacularly.


Great job MS

 

It's amazing to me that they are so clueless to this fact.  Why force people to go looking for solutions elsewhere, I am so frustrated, it's so illogical when all it takes is one more setting "Share with no login" 

 

I built a whole custom site based on the fact that I'd seen Lamborgini and a bunch of other examples … only to learn you'd have to login with an MS account before you could see it.

 

how useless is that?


I guess they only want 365 to be a solution for the really huge businesses, I guess HR could use this if there were 20,000 employees and they were worried about their training getting ripped from youtube?  I really fail to see where this is an attractive solution over Google's stack.


I'm having more and more difficulty in supporting staying on 365, I don't want to even get into the nightmare of licensing that happened when board members of the non profit I'm working for wanted to use their own email addresses to access the board portal I'd setup for them in SharePoint.

 

Of course they want to use their own email, NO I can't tell a board member "TOUGH" you'll just have to use an account from the organization, you can't use your existing email. (ok, you can, but you'll need to register it first with Microsoft, then I'll need to assign a license to that email … only then will you be able to see what's going on inside the org.   seems extremely annoying when I can just add them to a group in Google and be done with it, no matter what email address they're using.


Same with google sites, easily publish an externally facing site.

Why would you remove this ability MS?  WHY?


@Koraunui Administrator wrote:

Am I correct in thinking that as of Aug 2017 there is no way to publically share videos stored in either Stream or Video? and that there is no timeframe for this to become available? Im asking as we need to have our videos imbedded in our school website and have been forced to move our school website external to o365 due to Microsoft stopping from hosting public websites. I now need to find a way around this. It seems that at present we need to allow our school staff to use Google Services and accounts so that they can use youtube. This will result in them migrating to Google so that all their services are in the one place. Surely that is not where Microsoft are heading?


 

The only update they have given is :

 

Microsoft Stream: Public anonymous external video sharing

Allow individual videos in Microsoft Stream to be marked for external public access allowing the video to be embeded in a public website. Anyone in the world can view these external videos without a login. Stream admins will be able to control if this feature is enabled and who within the organization can make videos publicly available.

  • Featured ID: 27728
  • Added to Roadmap: 4/26/2018
  • Last Modified: 1/14/2019
  • Tags: Microsoft Stream

This is supposed to come to us in Q2 this year, but none of the Microsoft Team has given additional updates on the time frame yet. The fact that they did not have such a major functionality included in their product is just mind blowing, even worse that they've taken this long to correct it with little to no correspondence with customers.

 

Reference site: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/roadmap?filters=&searchterms=stream#owRoadmapMainConte...

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